liquid calcium at walmart.

[squirrelfriend]

My little mo keeps having seizures. I am doing everything I can to treat for MBD but it is not working. I found this liquid at walmart but am concerned about the other vitamins with it. Especially the phosphorus. Are there any rehabbers out there that would know if this stuff is ok or not? I didn't buy it yet. It is difficult to find liquid calcium.

[island rehabber]

squirrelfriend, I would email Leigh at Henrys Pets -- she's got cal/phos ratios tattoo'd on her brain by this time and could give you a good response. I could also email my vet in NYC and ask him for you. This is an MBD squirrel, right?

[CritterMom]

squirrelfriend, I would email Leigh at Henrys Pets -- she's got cal/phos ratios tattoo'd on her brain by this time and could give you a good response. I could also email my vet in NYC and ask him for you. This is an MBD squirrel, right?


The cal/phos ratio is at 2 to 1 which is correct for a total diet but if you are trying to SUPPLEMENT you want more than the ideal norm (does that make sense?) I would be more concerned about the amount if D3 and Leigh is the person to speak to. You can also PM her at 4skwerlz.

[astra]

This is an MBD squirrel, right?
Since SF may not be immediately available to answer this, I will:

this is a juvie that was found this past Fall - very injured, dehydrated, with a bloody face/nose etc.

Here is the thread: http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37640

at first, I thought she was someone's late release because she would let me do anything to her.
But as she got better, she became less happy to be handled and much less cooperative overall.
Gradually, she did start warming up to me (before she moved to SF), but still - we didn't know if she was someone's late release or a wild juvie.

The finder said she had a head drift.
I saw a slight head drift when I got her.

She had a course of prednisone and amoxi.

After that her neuro issues were completely gone, and we thought that she would be releasable.

While here she did throw up a couple of times. Those were definitely throw ups and not seizures (unless, there can be a very mild seizure when a squirrel throws up, coughs up some food and then, after a short moment, continues to eat - that's what her throw ups looked like).

One guess was that since by the time i got her she was very dehydrated, undernourished and couldn't chew (b/c her muzzle must have been banged up), I thought that such dehydration and malnutrition could damage her GI, which resulted in her throw ups.

It could also be that she did sustain a serious face/head trauma, and although prednisone helped, some issues must have remained deep down somewhere, and are showing up right now.

If she, INDEED, was someone's late release, then, MBD possible, BUT - since then, right after I got her she was on Fox Valley and Harlan Teklad.
At SF's she gets HT, too.... so.... not sure here.....

Also, if MBD treatment is not helping, then, maybe, it is not MBD?.... but a neuro issue from the trauma she sustained in the Fall?

:thinking

[squirrelfriend]

Thank you Astra for filling everybody in on her history. As of lately I have been giving her calcium and fox valley mixed together. She will only let me do this when she is already tired out from a seizure. It does help and she shows huge improvement after a couple of hours. The trick is to get calcium into her at a regular basis. That's why I thought the liquid calcium could just be added to her water.

The teklads I found were only being shredded. This morning I got the idea to dip them in the oil at the top of a jar of organic nut butter. She then would only eat the outside so I let them soak a little longer so that it got deeper.

I also added a bunch of bone meal into a spoonful of peanut butter. I didn't want to give her peanut utter but I was desperate to get another dose of calcium in her.

Today I took her outside for a couple of hours to get some real sun since we actually had a day that wasn't too cold.

[astra]

As of lately I have been giving her calcium and fox valley mixed together. She will only let me do this when she is already tired out from a seizure. It does help and she shows huge improvement after a couple of hours. The trick is to get calcium into her at a regular basis. That's why I thought the liquid calcium could just be added to her water.

if she does have seizures, then, improvement after FV and cal is to be expected. If I remember it correctly, seizures deplete cal and glucose. That's why when you give her FV and cal (on top of FV already having calcium), she shows improvement.... so, it may not necessarily be MBD, but the result of seizures. :thinking
Also, FV has corn syrup solids (or something along those lines) - that's the sugar that replenishes her depleted glucose.

sent you an email, too.:grouphug :grouphug :grouphug