Calcuim Gluconate

[bobby taylor]

Does anyone know where I can get some Calcium Gluconate with Vit D? If so please let me know as soon as possible. Thanx, Bobby

[farrelli]

So I take it you're back from the vet? How did it go. I've been very worried about your little lady since last night.

Calcium gluconate with D can be picked up at many drug stores. Usually calcium comes as calcium carbonate, but gluconate is usually available. Ask the pharmacist. BUT BE CAREFUL! As stated in the thread the other day, while Ivy needs vitamin D to utilize the calcium, the levels of D found in human vitamins can be dangerous, so you should dilute it by cutting the human D-enriched vitamins with just pure calcium. The way it was described was perfect.

Is there a reason that you need gluconate over carbonate? Please tell us what the vet said exactly. If she does have MBD, you need to treat it very, VERY quickly. You also need to get her eating her blocks as soon as possible.

[bobby taylor]

So I take it you're back from the vet? How did it go. I've been very worried about your little lady since last night.

Calcium gluconate with D can be picked up at many drug stores. Usually calcium comes as calcium carbonate, but gluconate is usually available. Ask the pharmacist. BUT BE CAREFUL! As stated in the thread the other day, while Ivy needs vitamin D to utilize the calcium, the levels of D found in human vitamins can be dangerous, so you should dilute it by cutting the human D-enriched vitamins with just pure calcium. The way it was described was perfect.

Is there a reason that you need gluconate over carbonate? Please tell us what the vet said exactly. If she does have MBD, you need to treat it very, VERY quickly. You also need to get her eating her blocks as soon as possible.


Thanks for your concern. We did the xrays and blook work which will take several days to get back. The xray showed some MBD but not all that bad. He has her on Calcium Gloconate/vit d mix for now. I dont know why he wanted gluconate over carbonate, but he did. He gave her an injection of Vit B/D mix. This was one expensive trip, but she is well worth it to me. Thank you very much for your help. I pretty much knew what to do, but in a panic I lost it.

[pappy1264]

I believe the Gluconate you cannot overdoese. That is what they gave me for Jake, as well. It is a liquid.

[Jackie in Tampa]

Calcium Gluconate Vs. Calcium Carbonate



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Calcium gluconate and calcium carbonate are two commonly available forms of supplemental calcium. While calcium is best for you when obtained from food sources, you may need a supplement if you don't get enough of this mineral on a daily basis. In addition to their common role in offsetting a calcium deficiency, both calcium carbonate and calcium gluconate have other specific uses.
Calcium Carbonate

Calcium carbonate is the most widely used form of supplemental calcium, according to the National Institutes of Health's Office of Dietary Supplements. Because it contains a relatively high percentage of usable calcium, it also presents a good ratio of cost to effectiveness. Available forms of the supplement include capsules, tablets, chewable tablets and oral liquids. Typically, people who use calcium carbonate to combat deficiency take three to four daily doses either with or following meals. However, intakes may vary according to your doctor's recommendation. Calcium carbonate also has antacid properties that can help you ease the symptoms of acid indigestion, an upset stomach and heartburn.





Calcium Gluconate

Calcium gluconate comes in forms that include tablets and powders. You may also receive a calcium gluconate injection. In addition to helping you treat or prevent a calcium deficiency, this supplement can be used to reduce your body's levels of another mineral, called phosphate or phosphorus; it achieves this effect by lowering your ability to absorb the phosphorus content of your food during digestion. If you have too much phosphate in your body, you can develop a condition called hyperphosphatemia.
Calcium Carbonate Considerations

Calcium carbonate can interfere with the effects of certain vitamins and a variety of medications, include phenytoin, digoxin and tetracycline. Review your medication and vitamin use with your doctor first, and avoid taking this supplement within one to two hours of any other medicinal or nutrient product. Also review your pregnancy and breastfeeding status and any history of stomach problems or kidney disease. Potential side effects of calcium carbonate use include stomach pain, upset stomach, vomiting, constipation, belching, frequent urination, dry mouth and lack of appetite. Consult your doctor if you develop severe or ongoing versions of any of these effects.
Calcium Gluconate Considerations

Calcium gluconate can interfere with the effects of medications such as tetracycline, digoxin, doxycycline and minocycline. It can also interfere with other types of calcium supplements, as well as calcitriol or other vitamin D supplements and antacids. As with calcium carbonate, review your medication and supplement usage with your doctor before you take this supplement. Also tell your doctor if you have parathyroid gland problems or a history of kidney stones.

[kastillo]

Oh Bobby, I just caught up to the Ivy MBD thread. I hope she's doing better and the injection along with the calcium treatments will make her better. You just gotta keep it up steady on a daily basis. Hopefully you can get her to like her HHBs soon.
Love and prayers to you both :grouphug :Love_Icon

[Jackie in Tampa]

Bobby, if you choose to use the syrup... do not be fooled, check into the amount per dose... many of these have so little elemental calcium it is not worth all the sugar additives..and would need way too much damn near impossible.
I have used Rugby's...there is 8ml of calcium in .3ml, and the RDA of sqs is 330mg...Vets ...many, several advised this...
I called Rugbys lab and talked to a scientist there... I am 100% right on the Rugbys... not worth the $30 and false sense...
Best bet,. I swear , is HHBs and the healthy diet.. I do know and realize we are at a crucial stage... BUT IF you follow the posted TSB MBD info, irt works... Bobby I have pulled seizing sqs outta deaths door...
and another thing... CALCIUM injections, calcium is water soluable and pees right out, so an injection would be needed everyday and it will not be correct as you need other fundimental minerals and vitamins to make the body work and metabolise... it must be a harmonious combo, and HONEST, most vets, mine included know less than we do... very true.
I love Ivy and want her to get better and be happy... if you need me... email is best, but you already know that...
hugs and Happy holidays...
jit

[farrelli]

So did he give you dosing instructions for this? Everything that I've read here indicates that vitamin D in human doses is bad for squirrels.

From what Jackie posted (thanks), it looks like your vet is concerned that Ivy is getting too much phosphorous in her diet. Correct? So get those blocks! Really, they're a must! We all sound like a broken record, but that's because it's important for them to form the bulk of her diet. We just want to make sure that you don't think that this emergency treatment can take the place of a good diet. Many people come away thinking that. Here's the link for the calcium to phosphorous ratios:

http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15397

And again, get those blocks! Your old girl will be loving you for years to come if you do. I'm so very glad that this was caught early enough! Really, I;m very relieved. Please let us know as she improves! :alright.gif

[bobby taylor]

I will give her a choice of HHB or nothing when she starts eating. I did feed her some water melon and she seemed to enjoy that. She has been looking out of her bed some this afternoon. Thank all of you sooo very much!!!!! You all mean so much to us.

[farrelli]

Like i said in the other thread, please try some Ensure. She needs to eat something other than watermelon. From her coloring, she might be anemic. Other symptoms would be loss of energy, weakness, and rapid heart rate. Anemia can easily cause stress on the heart, so if she's got it, and given her age, she should get the protein and iron she needs. Ensure has it, and more. And it can't harm her. And if she doesn't like it, you can drink it! It's good! Most people seem to find that the vanilla and pecan flavors are squirrel favorites. You can get it at just about any store.

http://ensure.com/products/ensure

[island rehabber]

Like i said in the other thread, please try some Ensure. She needs to eat something other than watermelon. From her coloring, she might be anemic. Other symptoms would be loss of energy, weakness, and rapid heart rate. Anemia can easily cause stress on the heart, so if she's got it, and given her age, she should get the protein and iron she needs. Ensure has it, and more. And it can't harm her. And if she doesn't like it, you can drink it! It's good! Most people seem to find that the vanilla and pecan flavors are squirrel favorites. You can get it at just about any store.

http://ensure.com/products/ensure

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