Help Blood and red tissue Coming from My squirrel's butt!

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

Hi everyone i am new here. i have had my squirrel for 6 months now and she has never been sick, she has been happy and healthy until this past week. she started having diarrhea for maybe 3 days and it stopped yesterday but has since started having bleeding, and a giant tissue looking thing she has been trying to pass through her anus. I am terrified and need to know if any of you have heard of this happening before. I live in an illegal state so i have a friend lined up that owns a rescue with a vet on hand that i can place her with if this is life threatining. it will break my heart but i dont want my baby to die. thanks for any help.

[Jackie in Tampa]

can you email me pics of what you are seeing?
thecrazysquirrellady@gmail.com
I will post them for the rehabbers to see..

we will have alot of questions about her environment and diet..
can you give us details about both? domestic pets?
is she active? lethargic?
it is best to stay on task, this could be serious.
Is there alot of RED blood?

[island rehabber]

JIT I am thinking anal prolapse?

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

im trying to post the pictures and i dont think the e mail option on my phone is working so i am trying the usb cable. Untill a few days ago i was feeding her: nuts; Sunflower seeds, pistascios, almonds, brasil nuts, cashews, macadamia, wild acorns , fresh fruit, Berries, mellon, kiwi, apples, pairs, bananas, granola bars.

She has been very active, up until last night which she was still moderatly active, climbing table legs and door frames, but she wanted to be with me more than usual.

i have a rat and 3 dogs, she is always kept out of sight of the dogs. the rat and her share a room not a cage though i have put them in the same cage together to play before.

[Jackie in Tampa]

JIT I am thinking anal prolapse?very possible..
clean area with syringe filled with warm water..
gently pat dry with fresh clean sterile guaze {no threads or fuzz}
regular white sugar and water, made in to a paste/
painted on with ssmall watercolor type paint brush, small cosmetic brush {alsoclean}
repeat every thirty minutes until a hrd shell is formed...
this will alllow tissue to stay alive/not necrotic
I do advise antibiotics if have on hand, let us know what you DO have.
Pklease private message administartion as to your location so a back up plan can be put in place if possible. This will require sesdation to place back into positio0n, this can be fatal even with a vet...
a pic will really help...
TSB has many great rehabbers to help. hoping spmeone is near you to help assess
please do not hesitate...I would think no matter what is going on, it is serious.
hugs and good vibes

[Jackie in Tampa]

im trying to post the pictures and i dont think the e mail option on my phone is working so i am trying the usb cable. Untill a few days ago i was feeding her: nuts; Sunflower seeds, pistascios, almonds, brasil nuts, cashews, macadamia, wild acorns , fresh fruit, Berries, mellon, kiwi, apples, pairs, bananas, granola bars.
i have a rat and 3 dogs, she is always kept out of sight of the dogs. the rat and her share a room not a cage though i have put them in the same cage together to play before.bad diet , we won't go there now..
how is your sqs breathing?
and activity level?????
...KEEP HER QUIET and imobile

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

omg i dont have any sugar on hand and no car to take her anywhere!
sorry about the diet i couldnt find anything online when i got her except donot feed her peanuts. my phone will not allow me to send the pictures. she is doing fine. now, the tissue seams to only stick out when she pushes, is that normal for a prolapse? should i just clean it and put the gause over it and hold her? she is breathing normal and sitting quietly in her nest box.

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

omg! i dont have antibiotics either, all i have is a year and a half old amoxicillian liquid, and tripple antibiotic ointment.

[Jackie in Tampa]

NECROTIC means DEAD.
we would be trying to preserve the life of her butt tissue.her guts.
do you have a scale that will weigh in grams?
do you have legible clearly marked 1 cc syringe..
I know this is alot coming atcha, but this could be serious..
how much tissue can you see?
what is her activity level?
everything needs to be spotlessly clean/sterile.
what anti biotics do you have... call someone and GET SUGAR please... also have them check their med cabinet for antibiotics...
pet meds OR people meds...adults and kid meds..
is she drinking water?
were you able to tell admin your location?
even in ilegal states we sometimes have helpers..
some one that would be able to assist with meds or a safe vet would be optimum

you know what they say..a pic is worth a million...

HAVE YOU SEEN ANY WORMS???
FLEAS???? in your rat or sq poop?
btw, how is rat poop? and rat activity level?

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

no i have seen no signs of parasites in either of their poop. and the rat is happy and active. everyone i know is out of town and at work right now i have no one i can call. i can walk to the store and get some sugar but i cant go anywhere else until my husband gets home late this afternoon. i actully live close to you. where is a safe vet and if i was able to get my husband to come home from work, would he see her not get us fined? if i cannot see a safe vet without getting fined i will have to turn her over to a rehab. but since i found this place i have found the reasources of what is a good diet and stuff so i would like to keep her if i could.

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

oh and i have a sirnge. just use tap water or should i make saline water?

[Jackie in Tampa]

yes//saline is better..weak
if in florida...you are legal and some vets will see sqs...it is their choice.
My vet does not take sq patients... she is a domestics vet..
however I know several all over florida that will and there are many members in florida to help with that... many are rehabbers.

If THAT close to me, I could take her my vet, but neither of us have a car...:shakehead

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

so it isn't legal to have easter gray squirrels here? if so i will be sooo happy! Do you have the name and number of one in hernando county? i could get my husband come home if we knew of a good one to take her to. and would you know how much the procedure would cost roughly so i can take out the right amount with me?

[Jackie in Tampa]

brb...I am not sure what towns are in hernando...duh, I am blonde and slow..:)

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

oh and its not illegal right?

[Nancy in New York]

oh and its not illegal right?

Florida is one of the states where you are permitted to own a squirrel....lucky you.
Jackie will help you find a vet, I'm sure.

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

Thank you all!!! I am so happy to know this, i had thought it was illegal because a woman had gotten one from up north from her brother who wasn't treating it right and she couldn't take care of it either, so she called the cops to pick it up and i guess they had told her it wasn't legal. Guess the dont know everything.

[Jackie in Tampa]

I have private messaged a woman near you, crazy4squirrels.
I do know vets in Port richey, New port richey, we have several members with vets in the general ocala area..
YES... eastern greys are fine in florida.
do you have any formula? what formula did you use?
sometimes diarrhea can be a sign /sympton of MBD, metabolic bone disease, low calcium intake..
Captive sqs require a very regimen diet...
after we are stable here, I recommend you realy really spend some time in our nutrition forum...
MBD is a common mistake we make as sq owners..
it actually brings more people looking for help to TSB than any one other issue... yes, that serious.
Keep her on the QT...
low calcium is super dangerous.. I am not diagnosing your sq, I am not a licensed rehabber or medical person..I have dealt with MBD in the past though.
really wish we could have a pic...

[Nancy in New York]

Thank you all!!! I am so happy to know this, i had thought it was illegal because a woman had gotten one from up north from her brother who wasn't treating it right and she couldn't take care of it either, so she called the cops to pick it up and i guess they had told her it wasn't legal. Guess the dont know everything.
That's too bad.:shakehead
I was shocked when I learned that myself.
I think a lot of members here want to move to Florida for that reason...:D

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

i fed her esmbliac puppy milk replacer and i made it thick. she didn't get weened until she was 10 or 11 weeks old. could i have also a vet in new port richey's number too i know that area well too. And yes i plan on spending ALOT of time in the nutrision fourm after this. i went out and bought gunnie pig food last night. i looked for the blocks but all i could find was timothy blocks (walmart) and i know those are for rabbits.

[Jackie in Tampa]

no hay based products.
guinea pig food is all wrong.
Sqs do not digest hay well..can actualy cause blockage.

do you have any esbilac left? dilute it weak and try to get her to eat...
do you have any human calcium tablets...WITHOUT D?
how about tums? they are calcium.

I am slow typer, sorry to be brief and staunch sounding.

I know this vet personally
Animal Care Ctr-Pasco County - Nicholas Maldonado DVM

4041 Little Rd, New Port Richey, FL 34655
http://www.bestcareah.com/ (http://clicks.superpages.com/ct/clickThrough?SRC=sebpall&target=SP&PN=1&FP=profile&C=dr%2Bnick%2Bmaldenado&PGID=yp606.8081.1355320609048.1251636328173&ALG=113&TS=nbt&OF=1&ACTION=log,red&LID=2176970223&TR=50&bidType=FLCLIK&PGSN=B5&FL=profile&TL=off&LOC=http://www.bestcareah.com/)
(727) 376-7600

[Jackie in Tampa]

I have also PMed Loopy... that is her neck of the woods.
please keep trying to get a pic posted, ty

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

the one i picked up doesnt say anything about hay being in it. it says "advanced nutrition diet, with fruits, vegetables, seeds and grains." is that still wrong?

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

oh and i would have to text you any pictures i have. it wont let me send them any other way.

[Jackie in Tampa]

the one i picked up doesnt say anything about hay being in it. it says "advanced nutrition diet, with fruits, vegetables, seeds and grains." is that still wrong?yes.

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

ok ill return that tonight. what kind of rodent food would be best? i was thinking geribal and hamster or rat food.

[Jackie in Tampa]

ok ill return that tonight. what kind of rodent food would be best? i was thinking geribal and hamster or rat food.
rat blocks are more suitable for sqs.
Kaytee is vegetarian as far as Walmart...

HHBs are choice and made for sqs, they are all natural and contain exactly what a sq needs daily, you will see them mentioned often here.
http://henryspets.com/squirrel-diet/

really need to focus on butt issues and what is going on right now... can you give better details on poop? diarrhea? anal appearance?

[Jackie in Tampa]

esbilac has been known to cause diarrhea also, however she maybe calcium low.
do you have esbilac or tums... this is important.
I have to step away.
hoping one of the rehabbers can help you..
it has been mentioned in a PM maybe she is impacted... can you describe her poops and when you saw what? diarrhea? last solid poop?

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

she hasn't really been pooping or anything this morning and i havent seen as much blood. when any poop comes out now it just oozes a little and its not much. She seems to be stable when she sits quietly. i called the new port richey vet and there is no doctor in today, and the tech's seem to be too busy to talk to me. did loopy ever get back to you yet?

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

last real poop was yesterday around noon it was squishey/runny and big.

[Jackie in Tampa]

she hasn't really been pooping or anything this morning and i havent seen as much blood. when any poop comes out now it just oozes a little and its not much. She seems to be stable when she sits quietly. i called the new port richey vet and there is no doctor in today, and the tech's seem to be too busy to talk to me. did loopy ever get back to you yet?not yet, she is vet tech with mega contacts and experience. she is your best bet,:thumbsup
will try to email her also..

[Jackie in Tampa]

how does belly look? feel?
tinfoil rehabbers... thoughts?????

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

does impacted mean she is blocked up?

[Jackie in Tampa]

does impacted mean she is blocked up?yes

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

feels soft i have been pressing lightly every once in a while to see if she whinces with pain, and she acts like there is no pain in it. the only pain she expresses is when she is trying to push the thing in her anus out. she squeeks a tiny bit and tightenes up her body and pushes with her legs, and it comes out for like 10 seconds then goes back inside.

[Jackie in Tampa]

let me ppm betsy, Milo's Mom.. she is tele text pic posting capable... hang tight... I will have her PM you

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

i couldnt get a pic of the tissue poking out i just got one right after it did with blood on her little butt hole. it would be hard to get one of the tissue.

[Jackie in Tampa]

we are having someone step in to help with that techy stuff, they will contact you...they are safe.
take a few pics of her, not just her butt... take several...we need as much as we can get...

[Ratatouille]

If you are in a dire need of lab blocks I can come deliver some 2018 to you for free. It's not "henrys" but it works for all of the research rodents where my girlfriend works and also is recommended for growing squirrels on a number of sites, just not this one.

You can enema her also if you absolutely need to unblock her, but if you aren't well versed in emergency animal care i wouldn't press the issue

[Jackie in Tampa]

Animal Emergency of Pasco


(727) 841-65758740 Us Highway 19, Port Richey, FL 34668
Cross Streets: Near the intersection of Us Highway 19 and Ridge Crest

dr Green or Dr lee are known associates of a sq friend... these vets both are wonderful ...

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

i think i took my dog there when she got stung by bees once they were really good im calling now.

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

oh and i would love some of those blocks if you can really get them for me thanks soo much!

[Jackie in Tampa]

SGM< sadie is going to do the pics... she is contacting youi thru PM.. she is cool.

[sadie7684]

SGM< sadie is going to do the pics... she is contacting youi thru PM.. she is cool.


Jackie, I just heard back from her. She said thanks and she has some peeps working on it. I will be around all day if she ends up needing me!! :)

[msriri]

,

[Nancy in New York]

SGM try taking the picture a little further back and I don't think it will be so blurry.

[Jackie in Tampa]

SGM try taking the picture a little further back and I don't think it will be so blurry. and make sure good lighting.:thumbsup

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

i sent her a few more that is the one with the tissue coming out that is why it is dark in the butt area its like a big red bubble.

[Nancy in New York]

,

AND thank you msriri.....:bowdown

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

yeah thanks alot and thanks for all the others who have been working on this for me too!

[msriri]

:dono ......waiting

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

:dono ......waiting

did you not get the one with more light? i'll try sending again.

[msriri]

,

[Jackie in Tampa]

have we seen any poops lately? wet, dry,,,whatever.
looking for gastro motility.

[Milo's Mom]

Squirrely Girl Mom - can you take a few more pics in good light but not so close? If you stand back and little and NOT zoom in, the pic will be clearer...

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

no my camera sucks but i think i have one more not so far away. havent seen any poops lately.

[msriri]

:Love_Icon "Baby"

[msriri]

a little clearer

[Jackie in Tampa]

Rainbow River Animal Hospital (352) 489-5121
this is in dunnellon..
the vet is not real talkative but has helped sqs with good results..
he was reco'd by a member here.

worst case scenerio, I can get sq tonight and take to my vet tomorrow..
SGM, I do not know the vet that you Pmed me about... but know as long as you pay the bill, they will not keep sq...
do not relinquish him...

[Jackie in Tampa]

I am stepping away for an hour, feeding.. can I share your phone number if Loopy calls me?

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

yes you can share it. i'll call the one you suggested thank you!

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

thats going to be too far for us so i'll have to go with the one near me. thanks soo much for your help jackie!

[crazy4squirrels]

Hey guys...sorry I am here in Pasco/Hernando county. I have not read this all but I am ready to help if I can

[Jackie in Tampa]

Hey guys...sorry I am here in Pasco/Hernando county. I have not read this all but I am ready to help if I can
ty :wave123 FOR RETURNING MY pmS... yes!!!! hI t!:wave123
SGM... C4Sqs will help you with vet info in your area...:alright.gif

[Jackie in Tampa]

SGM, the vet you PMed me about is C4 sqs vet... yes...
all's clear... a vet has been found and vouched for..
sweeeeeeet!
relief...
sending good vibes ...
please keep us in the loop...
I am here if I can do anything...
thank you T! and SGM...

[crazy4squirrels]

I have taken my dog and one of my baby squiggies to Dr Kern on Spring Hill Dr. He is awesome! He is very down to earth and out there LOL. I will be honest and say he has not treated any of my squirrels that had a serious issues but we did discuss that he would see and treat my kids. I TRUST HIM:D If you need help message me. Do you have a container to take her? When is the appt

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

yes i have a container and will be going at 3:30.

[farrelli]

Hooray!!! Your baby will get the care he needs! I'm so happy. I hope he's going to be OK. I love TSB!

[crazy4squirrels]

Check your messages.

[Jackie in Tampa]

vet visit went well..
SGM will be posting soon..
thank you Tina and Lynn...:wave123

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

Ok everybody, The vet says she will be fine! Yea! :alright.gif he says its just Parasites and gave me meds to help get rid of them. Thank you all for your wonderful help! :bowdown She is in her cage now muching away at her yellow squash and sweet potato as we speak:jump :banana

[farrelli]

Oh, thank god. What a relief! It's so nice to get another happy ending around here! :multi

[farrelli]

Btw, so now that this is under control, now is the time to also get the diet under control. Please see the following link for the food pyramid. If the diet continues as is, the next time you'll be here is when your squirrel becomes paralyzed and is having seizures from MBD. We've probably had 2-3 die of it in the last week alone. Squirrels have very specific needs.

http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32218

So glad that you're here now and learning! This board is AWESOME and saves a lot of lives.

:Welcome

[island rehabber]

:wahooWonderful news! Give her a big smooch on top of her head for all of us, and listen to what farelli says above :poke :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup :)

[MJS]

Great news SGM :wahoo Love happy endings!!!

[crazy4squirrels]

So glad to talk to you SGM:) Dr Kerns is one of the good guys for sure. Glad he said that she is well hydrated and very happy of your quick diet changes. Calcium sup is very important as we discussed HHBs are easy to order. Print the diet page and your girl and you will be great! You can call me anytime and come to meet my farm crew:flash3

[island rehabber]

I'm happily moving this thread out of the Life-Threatening section and will put it into Non-Life-Threatening until the little one is all better. :)

[Ratatouille]

If you are still in need please private message me and I can meet you with some 2018 lab blocks this evening if you'd like. I have no problem meeting you at some point. I am in north tampa hillsborough near pasco county but I don't mind making a little bit of a drive. Tonight / this afternoon would have to be as I am moving tomorrow and will be busy for the rest of the weekend.

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

baby has now made a full recovery everyone!:jump Yea!!

[farrelli]

That is excellent news! :multi

So now that that's over, you're correcting her diet, right? Seems like every other day we get another squirrel parent who's little baby is in serious trouble because the diet has been bad. Right now there's a guy that I'm really worried about because his 8 year old is having big problems and we think it's because he wasn't feeding her rodent blocks. He's at the vet right now, or at least I hope he is. I'm really praying that his squirrel made it through the night.

[Squirrly_Girl_Mom]

yup she is right on track...but she doesnt really want her veggies much yet but i just keep giving them until she takes um lol i started giving her a half a teaspoon of greek yougert too so her belly feels better and it seems to work pretty well too, she loves the stuff!

[farrelli]

Good! What kind of rodent block did you get? Henry's?