Cat attack

[Jamesjr999]

My 8 year old nephew left my bedroom door open while I was making Jethro's breakfast and my cat went in and attacked Jethro, the only place I see any marks are just below his left eye (attached pic), I do not know if it is a bite or scratch (am thinking a scratch). The only antibiotics I have are Clindamycin.
Jethro is 8 weeks old and a little over 220 grams.

It took me 1/2 hour to calm him down which time he wouldn't let go of me and making a god awful crying sound, finally calmed him down and looked him over and only found the mark under his eye and fed him his fox valley, he is sleeping now.

If everyone could please keep the bashing down of how awful of a squirrel parent I am and give me some advice I would appreciate it, I feel terrible that I allowed this to happen.

[stepnstone]

No matter how minor the cat scratch he has to get on anti biotic immediately!

Baytril is the treatment of choice, I will try and look up what you have and

try to determine if it would suffice...

[Nancy in New York]

What is the strength?

[Jackie in Tampa]

baytril is the animal version of ciprofloxacin
Russel is right, you need ABs asap with a cat attack of any sort,
it is hard to find punctures sometimes and even a nick is dangerous.
call friends and family and ask for either the baytril or the cipro.

I have no experience with clindimycin, but my manuals say to DO NOT USE ON RODENTS... so I would not use it.

[Jamesjr999]

I do not know what the strength is, my brother has it, it was left over from my grand niece when she had mrsa, it is in liquid form and I will not be able to get it till after 4

[stepnstone]

I did find the info on clindamycin but as Jackie said, it is a no go! It can not be used on rodents!
Please call around to everyone you know, your baby has to get on an anti biotic!

[Jamesjr999]

Thanks making calls now

[Jackie in Tampa]

where are you located in Georgia?
we may be able to contact people that can help.

[Nancy in New York]

Thanks making calls now

All you would need is ONE pill and we/Jackie can dilute it for you so that you have plenty.
Think of people you know that may have had a UTI recently, up here that's all they prescribe for those, Cipro is what you would need if you are calling peeps. On an animal they call it Baytril.:) Same thing.:thumbsup

[Jamesjr999]

One of my nieces has some penicillin that say vk on bottle 500mg, I am in Doraville just out side the north perimeter of Atlanta

[stepnstone]

Want to keep this up front...
Jackie is best for breaking down human meds...

[stepnstone]

Better then nothing, from what I've read it can be used.
Now we need a weight on your squirrel and someone who can break down the dose... Oh, Jackie... !!

[Jamesjr999]

Better then nothing, from what I've read it can be used.
Now we need a weight on your squirrel and someone who can break down the dose... Oh, Jackie... !!


He is 230 grams, just weighed him, my scale only goes in 20 gram increments and he is still very skirmish right now

[stepnstone]

O.k., hang in here James. Jackie is most likely taking care of babies right now but she is the one we need to break down the dose...

[stepnstone]

Anybody out there know how to break down human meds or maybe someone in the area can assist with help?
Never mind the circumstances, the squirrel needs help!

[Jamesjr999]

Well while we are waiting to find out the dosage I will tell you what happened

I noticed on here that when something bad happens you get slammed by a lot of members so what happened is I woke Jethro (the squirrel I am looking after) up this morning and let him out and played with him for about 1/2 hour then left him out in my bedroom to amuse himself while I fixed his breakfast, which I do all the time, however my 8 year old nephew stayed with me this weekend and His dad didn't come and get him yesterday is why he is still here on a Monday so he went into my room to get some clothes and forgot to close door and the cat came in and chased poor Jethro I do not know if he just scratched him just below his eye or bit him but thats what happened and I guess I will here probably here a million things I did wrong and what a lousy person I am

[Jamesjr999]

My brother lives 50 miles from me and his oldest daughter is pregnant and due at end of month and she was having pains yesterday afternoon and he took her to hospital and stayed with her is why he didn't come get the boy yesterday, she is fine by the way it was just false labor pains

[stepnstone]

I'm just hoping the lack of response is due to babies needing taken care of and of course there are those working and still at work.
Wish I could find the correct info on how to break the human dose down to animal but so far I haven't been able to. It's nothing one should guess at.
I really don't think anyone is going to beat you up over the incident...
Of course you may see some shadows stealing around in the darkness of night carrying off a cat... just ignor them. :rotfl

[Jamesjr999]

Lol I was ready to wring his neck this morning but he is a cat and it's in their nature I really should have been more vigilant about keeping him out of house or maybe letting them interact more when Jethro was young but I was afraid if they became friends Jethro would trust all cats and that would not do

[Milo's Mom]

I'm trying Russell, but I LOST MY WMB BOOK!!!!! OMG!! I'm going to tear apart the house next.

[Nancy in New York]

I'm trying Russell, but I LOST MY WMB BOOK!!!!! OMG!! I'm going to tear apart the house next.

I will pm you what I have MM. But there is no dosing that I can see for Penicillin....just how to dilute a pill.

[Mchicha]

I have not verified this site for legitimacy but perhaps someone else can chime in: http://www.irishwildlifematters.ie/animals/squirrel-drugs.html

At any rate, it is noted that pencillin is toxic for rats and mice and, therefore, possibly for squirrels as well.

Have you tried contacting any vets in your area to inquire about Baytril? "Something along the lines of, my cat attacked this squirrel and he's not hurt badly but a rehabber who is trying to get him in the next couple of days said that it is extremely important that he have Baytril immediately as cat saliva is deadly to squirrels. The goal is for him to be rehabbed and released but first the infection from the cat injury has to be taken care of or he will die."

[Milo's Mom]

Found the book. There is nothing in the book about Penicillin. Only something called Pen G, which is a form of penicillin...a super strong kind. I can do a dilution, but I need a chart to know how much to dose.

You have a vet since you have a cat. Can you call your vet and beg? You just need 1 tablet of Baytril.

[Mchicha]

Also, please note that Amoxicillin while not ideal is at least not toxic. If you have any neighbors with kids, you should ask them if they have any left over Amoxicillin in their fridge. It is also known as "the pink stuff".

[Nancy in New York]

I have not verified this site for legitimacy but perhaps someone else can chime in: http://www.irishwildlifematters.ie/animals/squirrel-drugs.html

At any rate, it is noted that pencillin is toxic for rats and mice and, therefore, possibly for squirrels as well.

Have you tried contacting any vets in your area to inquire about Baytril? "Something along the lines of, my cat attacked this squirrel and he's not hurt badly but a rehabber who is trying to get him in the next couple of days said that it is extremely important that he have Baytril immediately as cat saliva is deadly to squirrels. The goal is for him to be rehabbed and released but first the infection from the cat injury has to be taken care of or he will die."

This sounds helpful.....Hmmmmm:dono

[Nancy in New York]

OR do you know a pharmacist that would give you ONE cipro pill?
This really is life or death...do whatever you need to do, he needs abs. asap.

[Jamesjr999]

I sent atlantasquirrelgirl a private message I hope she has something I can use, waiting for sister inlaw to get home and see what she has in medicine cabinet, in mean time can I clean wound with peroxide?

[Mchicha]

In the alternative, there is a wildlife veterinarian just about 15 minutes away from you who will take Jethro, treat him, rehab and release. Again, they do not euthanize, they rehab and release. No charge to you.

Dr. Michael Akins - All Creatures Animal Hospital
2482 Mount Vernon Rd # C
Atlanta, GA 30338
allcreaturesanimalhospital.com

[Nancy in New York]

I sent atlantasquirrelgirl a private message I hope she has something I can use, waiting for sister inlaw to get home and see what she has in medicine cabinet, in mean time can I clean wound with peroxide?

You didn't clean the wound yet?
Yes do that immediately, but don't use peroxide on deep punctures.
Then apply a triple action antibiotic cream. Neosporin is a good one. Apply two or three times a day

DO NOT GET ANYTHING CLOSE TO HIS EYES.

[Jamesjr999]

Mchicha that is some good info to have, I am still going through my address book but most people are still at work and do not know what they have in their medicine cabinets at home, how long do I have to get the antibiotics in him? I know everyone is saying asap, he is still scared but active his eye did swell up though, I attached another pic

[Jamesjr999]

I cleaned the wound with warm water on a rag, I did not want to put any medicine on it if I didn't know what to use

[Mchicha]

Others on the board will be more knowledgeable about squirrel-specific information, but with saliva-borne bacteria it begins proliferating quickly. You may still see normal behavior now but bear in mind that animals mask illness as a protective function and many times we don't realize how very ill they are until they are near death. I would suggest that if you are unable to get antibiotics or make other arrangements with another rehabber with available meds before the time the vet's office closes (usually 5) that you go ahead and take him in. The goal is, of course, to have a healthy squirrel regardless of who rehabs and releases.

[Jamesjr999]

And see about people jumping down your throat here, of course I cleaned his wound I was asking if I could use peroxide

[Mchicha]

I think that was just a question and she is using bold type so it stands out. Not shouting. Anyone reading the thread is going to know how badly you feel about what happened. Much like parents with children, accidents do happen. The hope is always that an accident is not severe or fatal but sometimes they are and that doesn't make it any less an accident.

You are here inquiring and wanting to do what is best for Jethro and that is what matters.

[Milo's Mom]

And see about people jumping down your throat here, of course I cleaned his wound I was asking if I could use peroxide
James...we are trying to help you and Nancy was simply asking a question. I do not blame her for asking since the squirrel was attacked hours ago and you are just now asking about the peroxide...to me it's confusing too.

Stepnstone told you to get Baytril or Cipro hours ago...
HAVE YOU DONE IT YET?
WHO HAVE YOU CALLED?
DID YOU CALL YOUR VET?

The drugs you have on hand will most likely do NOTHING to help the squirrel. We will help you but you need to do what we are telling you to do!

Everything I am reading says NOT to give to beavers of woodchucks (and they are in the squirrel family), but since you have nothing else and/or are not willing to pick up the damn phone and call your vet we have no choice. The squirrel WILL DIE from the cat attack without meds, period end of conversation, it WILL DIE.

Now do you want to continue to be accusatory towards Nancy when you are the one asking us to overlook your mistake and help you, or shall we all just walk away?

EDIT: and if you want to blast me, feel free...I am the one who is working on the dilution for the penicillin tablet you have.....

[Jamesjr999]

That question could have been phrased a thousand different ways where it didn't sound like I was some kind of dumb ---

[Jamesjr999]

My vet is in Gainseville, I just moved here I have been calling everyone I know

[Milo's Mom]

I just called Atlantasquirrelgirl and left a message on her machine informing her of your PM and also of the thread and need for meds.

[Nancy in New York]

And see about people jumping down your throat here, of course I cleaned his wound I was asking if I could use peroxide

I'll bow out now,
You know I have been working on getting you help for over three hours, pm'ing people, scanning in information to pass along to members, going on line looking up drugs....:shakehead
Sorry you thought I was jumping down your throat.
Good luck with your squirrel.

[Mchicha]

That question could have been phrased a thousand different ways where it didn't sound like I was some kind of dumb ---
Well, judging by the username you ARE a man, so . . . :D

Just trying to interject a little humor. Nobody here is going to win any customer service or counseling awards, but they DO care about your squirrel. It's easy to let a guilty conscience make a mountain out of a molehill and it does you or Jethro no good. Believe me, I'm a mom of 4 and I've had some doozies of accidents with kids AND animals so I know whereof I speak.

Can you call your sister-in-law on her cell to ask if any of them (adults or kids) have had a sinus infection or ear infection and still have meds? Do you have neighbors - you don't have to know them - who have kids? Just go ask - most people will want to help an animal.

Make phone calls and just ask. The worst they can do is say no.

[Jamesjr999]

My sister in law will be here any minute (she lives in same apt complex as me) and I will find out what she has, I am worried sick and if any of you never turned your back for a second and something unexpected happened then you never had children

[stepnstone]

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At any rate, it is noted that pencillin is toxic for rats and mice and, therefore, possibly for squirrels as well.

:sanp3 I would have to say that pencillin is a negitive then since squirrels do fall under the rodent category.

And James... I know from what you've said you are feeling guilty and from that your being sensitive,
I don't see where anyone "jumped down your throat".
So, breathe... lets just focus on getting the baby help.
That eye is telling me the "scratch" is pretty serious, does he appear to be in pain?

[Jamesjr999]

Nancy I am sorry, it was just the way you phrased that question, you have been trying to help and I have gotten great advice from you before, I am feeling guilty and defensive and all I want is the best for Jethro

[Milo's Mom]

I do not have human children, nor do I want them nor have I ever. My animals are my children and when they are out of the cage my back is NEVER turned.

[Jackie in Tampa]

I looked everywhere for an advised dose for pen.. no luck..
I have always been told to not use it..
sorry couldn't be of more help.

[Jamesjr999]

:sanp3 I would have to say that pencillin is a negitive then since squirrels do fall under the rodent category.

And James... I know from what you've said you are feeling guilty and from that your being sensitive,
I don't see where anyone "jumped down your throat".
So, breathe... lets just focus on getting the baby help.
That eye is telling me the "scratch" is pretty serious, does he appear to be in pain?

He only seems in pain if I touch that area

[stepnstone]

[QUOTE=Milo's Mom]I do not have human children, nor do I want them nor have I ever. QUOTE]
bwaak ~ bwaak :jump :jump

[stepnstone]

He only seems in pain if I touch that area

Do you have any neosporin?

[Milo's Mom]

James - Jakcie is one of our very best when it comes to meds, dosing, & squirrels. If she says not to use it, then there is no way in he!! I would use it.

[stepnstone]

James - Jakcie is one of our very best when it comes to meds, dosing, & squirrels. If she says not to use it, then there is no way in he!! I would use it.

Ditto!

[Jamesjr999]

I just gave him a grape because he is such a brave and good little boy

[Milo's Mom]

James, do you have Children's Benedryl or Infant Motrin?

These will NOT kill infection but they may help with swelling, pain, and allergic reaction.

If you have them, please leave us know what you have (and please be as specific as humanly possible)

[stepnstone]

Meds James, meds! Got to get some meds! :Phone2

[Jamesjr999]

Do not worry if you guy's do not approve it I will not give to him, I will message back as soon as I find what she got and if I have to I will start knocking on doors, I a in Doraville, Ga and if you live in Ga. you know most of my neighbors are Hispanic and I don't speak the language that well but I will get the message across somehow

[Jamesjr999]

James, do you have Children's Benedryl or Infant Motrin?

These will NOT kill infection but they may help with swelling, pain, and allergic reaction.

If you have them, please leave us know what you have (and please be as specific as humanly possible)

The swelling has gone down but I do have children's Motrin 100 mg per teaspoon, and yes I know just because swelling went down he is not out of danger

[Milo's Mom]

The swelling has gone down but I do have children's Motrin 100 mg per teaspoon, and yes I know just because swelling went down he is not out of danger

Just double checking that you have CHILDREN'S, and not INFANT motrin. Just double check and leave me know.

[Milo's Mom]

Is your sister home yet? How about knocking on them doors?

You MUST find meds. If not you are doing nothing but watching him die, slowly.

[Mchicha]

Print this out or write it down and take it with you door to door:

¿Tiene algún medicamento antibiótico que le podía dejar que me tienen un poco. Amoxicillain, las cosas color de rosa, o Ciproflaxin, o Baytril? Es muy importante.

[atlantasquirrelgirl]

I'm in Cincinatti this week. I'm sending you some info to get immediate help.

[Milo's Mom]

I'm in Cincinatti this week. I'm sending you some info to get immediate help.

OMG!!! Thank you atlantasquirrelgirl!!!!!

[stepnstone]

Where, what, when, and how?
James don't leave us out of the loop here, you got too many of us worried sick over your little one...

[Jamesjr999]

Sorrry I was out knocking on doors, I have amoxicillin capsules 500 mg it is generic for amoxil

[atlantasquirrelgirl]

I sent phone numbers via PM of people who can help you tonight. That eye looks rough. You may want to have a vet look at him tomorrow to see what is going on there.

[Jamesjr999]

All right people the only reason I sent the pic of him eating the grape was to show you he was still moving around and being active, I am not just sitting here with my thumb up my asss I been on phone all day long and even called my vet and she said to use the stuff you told me not to but she is also the one that told me to i could feed him the hartz brand milk replacer

[Jamesjr999]

I just saw the pm atlantasquirrelgirl sent but can I use what I just said

[Jamesjr999]

ANYBODY

[island rehabber]

Hi james. Thank you for trying to help this poor little guy! Amoxi is not the best for cat attack, but if that's all you've got it's better than nothing. We need to find out how to dilute and dose those capsules, though.....I am the last person you want to help you with THAT job, but maybe Jackie or others with better math skills....?

[Jamesjr999]

Thank you IR, I have made myself sick today trying to get what he needs, I just got off phone with a person that atlantasquirrelgirl gave me and she had the proper meds but does not know the proper dosage to give him but if we can find out the correct dossage for the meds I got so I can start something

[Milo's Mom]

I just got off the phone with Atlantasquirrelgirl. She sent you names of people that can get you BAYTRIL (or other appropriate drugs) TONIGHT. It cannot get any better than this.

Call those people and set something up for TONIGHT!!

Call the vet and make an appointment for tomorrow first thing to get his eye looked at. DO NOT WAIT TO GET MEDS FROM THE VET, GET THE MEDS TONIGHT AND GO TO THE VET TOMORROW.

[Milo's Mom]

I just saw the pm atlantasquirrelgirl sent but can I use what I just said

James, you have the meds that Jethro needs, the perfect recommended drugs just a phone call away...if you want the best for him, why would you want anything else?

Pick up the phone and call the people that Atlantasquirrelgirl sent you!

[Milo's Mom]

Thank you IR, I have made myself sick today trying to get what he needs, I just got off phone with a person that atlantasquirrelgirl gave me and she had the proper meds but does not know the proper dosage to give him but if we can find out the correct dossage for the meds I got so I can start something

Tell us what meds she has and we will tell you how much he needs per dose and for the full course of antibiotic so you can tell her.

[Milo's Mom]

I am going to go eat dinner now, but as soon as I am done I will check back to see if you've gotten the info of the meds from the person you called that Atlantasquirrelgirl sent you so we can tell you how much, how often, etc.

[Nancy in New York]

I am going to keep this nice.
James, do you have 500 mg of Amoxicillin?
If you do, my husband (engineer and excellent with math) broke it down and I will pm you the information.
BUT, the drug of choice is baytril, and if you can get that tonight....that is what you should do.
IF you can get it tomorrow, you can give her one dose of the Amoxicillin and then switch her over.
Do you have 500 mg of Amox. in capsule form, I think that is what I read.

[Jamesjr999]

Here's the situation, I was only able to reach 1 person on the list atlantasquirrelgirl sent me, I left messages with the other numbers but I have not heard from them, the person I spoke with can not meet me tonight, she has, forgive the spelling trimecatrim, baytril and quagimire, I know all spelled wrong but hopefully you will know what it is, so all I have tonight is the amoxicillin can you please tell me how much to give him, he is 8 weeks old and 230 grams

[Jamesjr999]

Yes Nancy that is what I have

[Nancy in New York]

Here's the situation, I was only able to reach 1 person on the list atlantasquirrelgirl sent me, I left messages with the other numbers but I have not heard from them, the person I spoke with can not meet me tonight, she has, forgive the spelling trimecatrim, baytril and quagimire, I know all spelled wrong but hopefully you will know what it is, so all I have tonight is the amoxicillin can you please tell me how much to give him, he is 8 weeks old and 230 grams

I am sending a pm now. The amox. is 500 mg. correct?

[stepnstone]

All right people the only reason I sent the pic of him eating the grape was to show you he was still moving around and being active, I am not just sitting here with my thumb up my asss

:nono Now where did this come from??:
James, don't make me send my shadow people out to take you to anger management with the cat...

Breathe buddy, breathe....

I been on phone all day long and even called my vet and she said to use the stuff you told me not to but she is also the one that told me to i could feed him the hartz brand milk replacer

For most veterinarians wildlife is out of their field of practice, Unless a veterinarian has studied / researched wildlife they are going to apply what they have learned about with domestic animals.

[atlantasquirrelgirl]

For most veterinarians wildlife is out of their field of practice, Unless a veterinarian has studied / researched wildlife they are going to apply what they have learned about with domestic animals.

A vet name was given that is one of the best wildlife vets in Atlanta.

[Milo's Mom]

A vet name was given that is one of the best wildlife vets in Atlanta.

I think the reference was being made to the vet that was initially contacted when Jethro was found, NOT your vet.

[Nancy in New York]

I think the reference was being made to the vet that was initially contacted when Jethro was found, NOT your vet.

Yes that is who he meant, the one that recommended the hartz and said that the penicillin is alright.:shakehead
NOT atlantasquirrelgirls vet....:nono

[Jamesjr999]

That is correct not your guy's vet I never got around to him but anyway Nancy sent me the correct dosage and I have given it to him, he is sleeping peacefully right now and I will let everyone know how he is in morning and hopefully be able to get the right meds from the contact atlantasquirrelgirl gave me

[Nancy in New York]

I'm asking the experts here.
I told James the daily dose amount,
but would you experts double the initial dose of abs tonight?
He already gave one dose, but is another dose tonight what most would do in this case, and then tomorrow go back to the regular dose twice a day 12 hours apart.

[Jamesjr999]

Thank you all so so so so much, sorry I was short with some of you

[stepnstone]

A vet name was given that is one of the best wildlife vets in Atlanta.

Just so there is no misunderstanding...
My comment to James was directed at his comment below,
I am aware there are some dynamite vets that know how to treat wildlife.


I been on phone all day long and even called my vet
and she said to use the stuff you told me not to but she is also the one that
told me to i could feed him the hartz brand milk replacer

edit: just saw that it was already cleared up, thanks!:thumbsup
I was busy stuffing my face...

[Garden71]

Praying for Jethro :Love_Icon :grouphug

[SammysMom]

Ditto!

Praying for Jethro :Love_Icon :grouphug

[HRT4SQRLS]

but would you experts double the initial dose of abs tonight?
He already gave one dose, but is another dose tonight what most would do in this case, and then tomorrow go back to the regular dose twice a day 12 hours apart.

Disclaimer: I AM NOT A SQUIRREL EXPERT AT ALL but I am a microbiologist (Masters Degree and 33 years experience) .

I hate to jump in this thread but I thought I would throw this out there because I think it will help. I work in a hospital so my comments are based on 'people medicine'. :D In regard to the question about should another dose be given tonight I would say yes because it is always good to have a loading dose.


I know you guys are familiar with Pasteurella multocida because I have heard you discuss it. Yes it is in cats mouths so you want to treat for it with any cat attack (even though it might not be a bite but a scratch). Just so you will know Pasterella is VERY sensitive to Amoxicillin so it WILL treat the infection assuming that Pasterella is involved. Actually Amoxicillin/Penicillin/Ampicillin are the DRUGS OF CHOICE when treating people with a cat bite. :thumbsup

Based on what I have read about it being 'hard' on the GI tract you probably want to start the yogurt as soon as possible.

I hope I haven't stepped in an area where I should have remained silent but I did want you to know that Amoxi WILL treat Pasteurella. :thumbsup :)

[Nancy in New York]

Disclaimer: I AM NOT A SQUIRREL EXPERT AT ALL but I am a microbiologist (Masters Degree and 33 years experience) .

I hate to jump in this thread but I thought I would throw this out there because I think it will help. I work in a hospital so my comments are based on 'people medicine'. :D In regard to the question about should another dose be given tonight I would say yes because it is always good to have a loading dose.


I know you guys are familiar with Pasteurella multocida because I have heard you discuss it. Yes it is in cats mouths so you want to treat for it with any cat attack (even though it might not be a bite but a scratch). Just so you will know Pasterella is VERY sensitive to Amoxicillin so it WILL treat the infection assuming that Pasterella is involved. Actually Amoxicillin/Penicillin/Ampicillin are the DRUGS OF CHOICE when treating people with a cat bite. :thumbsup

Based on what I have read about it being 'hard' on the GI tract you probably want to start the yogurt as soon as possible.

I hope I haven't stepped in an area where I should have remained silent but I did want you to know that Amoxi WILL treat Pasteurella. :thumbsup :)

I think you are qualified to help out here...:poke
Thank you for posting, and this is a great information to have in the future.
Please always feel free to offer any advice or opinion, we welcome them.
We are always learning.
I believe that the drug of choice, Baytril, may be because it's what is referred to as the "Big Guns".
It works faster and for a shorter duration of time.
And when dealing with cat bites on a squirrel, which are deadly,
the cillins are slower and given for a longer duration.

But you are absolutely right according to the Wild Mammal Babies,
you will see that Amoxicillin could be used as an alternate if further antibiotic treatment is needed.

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/nancym518/Bronx%20Babies%202012/005-2.jpg

[Mchicha]

Would it be possible to create a sticky that lists the various medications (antibiotics, children's ibuprofen, metacam, etc.) as well as the dosage per gram and frequency of dosage? And a list of those medications that should not be given.

[Nancy in New York]

Would it be possible to create a sticky that lists the various medications (antibiotics, children's ibuprofen, metacam, etc.) as well as the dosage per gram and frequency of dosage? And a list of those medications that should not be given.

Probably not a good idea, we would have lots of members and non members self medicating squirrels.
That's why most of the time, doseages are done through pm's.
If you have a question on prescription meds and OTC meds,
a great book to get is Wild Mammal Babies: The First 48 Hours and Beyond.

[Squirrelis]

:grouphug Prayers for baby Jethro- you'll be ok little guy please hang in there--you too James:grouphug

[Jamesjr999]

http://s687.photobucket.com/albums/vv239/jimmythesaint2009/?action=view&current=VID00005.mp4

Here is Jethro about 1/2 hour ago after his meds and supper he wanted to play for a little bit

[SammysMom]

Oh Jethro...you are so darned cute!!! :Love_Icon

[island rehabber]

He looks good, thank God! He's bright and alert and active.....yay Jethro! :thumbsup

[stepnstone]

Obviously Jethro has no idea how worried and stressed people have been over him,
it's good to see him playing like that. :thumbsup

Now... :get_em here kitty kitty!

...Just kidding James. :icon_devil

[Garden71]

LOOKING GOOD :jump :jump :thumbsup

[Garden71]

Probably not a good idea, we would have lots of members and non members self medicating squirrels.
That's why most of the time, doseages are done through pm's.
If you have a question on prescription meds and OTC meds,
a great book to get is Wild Mammal Babies: The First 48 Hours and Beyond.


Just answered my question.
Not going to become an expert just want to learn and understand more.:thumbsup

[Jamesjr999]

Thanks for all the prayers, here is pic this morning of Jethro, sorry a bit fuzzy but hard to get him to stay still enough to take pic, his eye was swollen shut yesterday afternoon and still half shut last night but this morning was wide eyed, gave him his meds and his breakfast. He is back to his perky self.

[island rehabber]

What a great report! :wahoo:thumbsup

[Nancy in New York]

James are you getting the Baytril today?

[Jamesjr999]

Yes waiting to here from the girl I am getting from to see where to meet, went ahead and gave him the other this morning and should have the good stuff before his next dosage time, thank you and your husband for all the help and I will keep everyone updated

[stepnstone]

Good update! :thumbsup
Stay vigilant with the anti biotic. He is just looking through the
trees at this point, he's not out of the woods yet.

I would definitely get the baytril, much easier on them.

[Nancy in New York]

Yes waiting to here from the girl I am getting from to see where to meet, went ahead and gave him the other this morning and should have the good stuff before his next dosage time, thank you and your husband for all the help and I will keep everyone updated

Great update.
Yes, he should have had that dose this morning, glad you gave it to him.
Just so we are ready, do you know the strength of the baytril, and is it liquid? OR is the person you are getting it from going to give you the doseage?

[Jamesjr999]

Great update.
Yes, he should have had that dose this morning, glad you gave it to him.
Just so we are ready, do you know the strength of the baytril, and is it liquid? OR is the person you are getting it from going to give you the doseage?

She does have baytril, I do not know what form or strength it is in, she did not know what dosage to give me I believe she was waiting to here from atlantasquirrelgirl to get that info, once I get all the details I will send you a pm to make sure I am doing everything right, it will be later this afternoon before I can meet with her, his next dosage will be due at 9 tonight

[Nancy in New York]

She does have baytril, I do not know what form or strength it is in, she did not know what dosage to give me I believe she was waiting to here from atlantasquirrelgirl to get that info, once I get all the details I will send you a pm to make sure I am doing everything right, it will be later this afternoon before I can meet with her, his next dosage will be due at 9 tonight


Sounds good!

[atlantasquirrelgirl]

I have not received a request from any of my friends asking for dosing, but one lady did leave a message saying she talked to you yesterday.

The Baytril is in pill form; 22.7 mg/ml. You'll need to dilute it in water. I don't have my vet's dosing with me, but I do have a "safety dosing" table, which indicates .01 mls per 100 grams of body weight, given twice a day. Your squirrel is 220 grams, so he would receive about .022 mls twice a day.

[Nancy in New York]

I have not received a request from any of my friends asking for dosing, but one lady did leave a message saying she talked to you yesterday.

The Baytril is in pill form; 22.7 mg/ml. You'll need to dilute it in water. I don't have my vet's dosing with me, but I do have a "safety dosing" table, which indicates .01 mls per 100 grams of body weight, given twice a day. Your squirrel is 220 grams, so he would receive about .022 mls twice a day.

I sent James a dosing amount in a pm.
According to the wild mammal book the amount you indicated above is not correct.
According to their chart, it would be .09 for a 220 squirrel. I told James to dose at .1 once a day or .05 twice a day.

[Jamesjr999]

I sent James a dosing amount in a pm.
According to the wild mammal book the amount you indicated above is not correct.
According to their chart, it would be .09 for a 220 squirrel. I told James to dose at .1 once a day or .05 twice a day.

I gave him .05 tonight, he is still very perky and his eye looks almost 100%, he is a very resilient boy

[Nancy in New York]

Any updates on Jethro?

[Jamesjr999]

He is doing great, attached pic of him in what use to be my chair but he has taken it over lol , couple more days on antibiotics but his eye has healed up good and he is full of energy

[Nancy in New York]

He is doing great, attached pic of him in what use to be my chair but he has taken it over lol , couple more days on antibiotics but his eye has healed up good and he is full of energy


He looks great! Such a terrific report.
Remember for cat attacks, the book (I sent you the page) said 3-5 days for suspected cat attacks. I would not go longer than 5 days.

[Jamesjr999]

Yeah I didn't realize it has already been 5 days, I will give him last dose tonight and keep eye on him but should all be good