Beth 1988 help needed

[beth1988]

I Need Help Raising 2 baby Squirrels, a kitten caught the two and ran the mother back up the tree. I had to touch the two babies to get them out of the kittens mouth. There are no scratches or bite marks from the kitten and the two babies are in good health. I tried to let the mother take them back but she didnt, so i had to take them in. Theres no animal hospital that dont kill in my area so i decieded to take care of them but i need advice!!!! They have very short fur almost bald, full face fur tho. about the size of my hand, very long arms and legs and starting to get teeth. I have no clue how old they could be. I have baby formula i gave to them with a cream mix with it for more fat to keep them up to weight, i have a seringe from a baby medicine box i had around that seems to be working good. They have bin eating, and stick together. They dont make alot of sound and there eyes open a little bit. Someone give me some advice and tell me how old, and what i need to do. Thank you so much... Beth:thankyou

[beth1988]

need help with 2 baby squerrels!!!

[stepnstone]

FEEDING BABY SQUIRRELS

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In light of the recent problems rehabbers have been experiencing with Esbilac formula, it has been decided that the best alternative is Fox Valley 32/40.
http://foxvalleynutrition.com/prod/d...p?CID=1&PLID=1
Nicholas P. Vlamis, President (Nick)
(800) 679-4666
If you call in your order and tell him you need it quickly he'll be happy to oblige. He can ship to you regular post 3-5 days and overnight. He's very nice and very easy to work with.
In the meantime you will need to feed your baby a home-made formula, but please for the sake of the baby, do not feed this for more than 4-7 days. It's a great temporary replacer milk but it lacks certain vitamins and minerals that the babies need to thrive. This recipe will ensure that your baby will be well nourished until your order from Fox Valley arrives.

Jackie (Jackie in Tampa) has graciously offered her temporary replacement formula recipe.
Jackie's Goat Milk Recipe
1 cup goats milk
1/3 cup heavy cream
1/3 cup dannon all natural vanilla yogurt

Mix well and keep in a covered plastic or glass container in the refrigerator. Replace after 48 hours.
Please note, this website has several links that still mention Esbilac and we need to keep these links active as they do contain excellent information so please keep in mind that Fox Valley is now the formula of choice for raising baby squirrels.

Also just a little FYI, touching a baby squirrel does not mean mom won't take back. Not true for birds either, just an old "wives tale".

[stepnstone]

In addition... Formula needs to be hot, warmed up in dish inside dish holding hot water. Do not micro wave. Baby needs to be warm also, never feed a cold baby, never feed cold formula.

Are you sure there are no marks/damage from the cat? Cat bites can be very deadly to a squirrel and if there are they will need antibiotics.

[stepnstone]

On my way out door if someone can assist, thanks!
Beth1988
Non Life Threatening Help Needed
Thinking of Raising That Baby Yourself? READ THIS

[Milo's Mom]

Cat saliva is deadly to squirrels. These baby's most likely need meds. Your best bet is to find a rehabber in your area. When they are little they crash fast, especially with being cat caught.

Put them in a small container with some clean t-shirts or fleece, place a heating pad on LOW under half of the container. A plastic container is best, just make sure they cannot climb out.

Do NOT try to feed a cold baby. I'll post some emergency info for you in a minute.

[Milo's Mom]

Here is the emergency care info for babies.

This thread will assist you in dealing with the first few hours of finding an injured or orphaned baby squirrel. In most cases we would urge you to find a qualified wildlife rehabilitator ASAP, but please follow these guidelines to stabilize and keep the squirrel safe:
Emergency Care for Baby Squirrels

Don’ts
Don’t try to feed the squirrel.
Don’t handle him more than you have to.
No loud voices, TV, music, or bright lights.
No children or pets in the same room!

1. Warm the Baby (never feed a cold squirrel!)
Quick Methods:
-Cup the baby in your hands or under your shirt next to your skin.
-Fill a plastic bottle with very warm water. Wrap in a cloth, place next to baby, and cover him. Reheat every 2 hours.
-“Rice Buddy”: Fill a sock with 1 cup of rice or dried beans and microwave for 30 seconds. Place next to baby and cover him. Reheat every 2 hours.

2. Find a Box or Container
A shoebox will do for small babies. A baby that can walk will need a larger box with a lid (with holes). Put a clean baby blanket, flannel shirt, or piece of fleece in the bottom of the box. No towels or terrycloth. Squirrels can get tangled in the loops. Place baby on the material and cover him with one flap. If you have a heating pad, turn it on low and place it under half of the box (not IN the box!) so baby can move away if he gets too warm. You can use the plastic bottle or rice buddy described above, but these are only temporary methods until you get a heating pad, since they must be reheated every 2 hours and won't keep baby warm all night.
NOTE: Monitor his temperature so he doesn’t chill or overheat. His feet should feel warm to the touch.

Note: If the baby is injured, is having trouble breathing, has fly eggs on his fur, or is very skinny or dehydrated, he needs emergency care by an experienced rehabber or vet.

3. Rehydrate the Baby
Most babies are dehydrated when you find them and must be rehydrated before you can feed them. Never feed formula or food of any kind to a dehydrated baby!

How to Check for Dehydration
Pinch the skin on the back of his neck. If it doesn’t spring back immediately, the baby is dehydrated. If the pinched skin stays up like a tent for more than a second, the baby is badly dehydrated. Other signs of dehydration: pale grayish gums, dry mouth, sunken eyes, whites around eyes showing, rough spiky fur, dry scaly skin.
NOTE: If baby is badly dehydrated, he will need subcutaneous fluids, which can only be given by a rehabber or vet.

Supplies You Will Need:
--Pedialyte (any flavor)*
--Plastic syringes (1 cc size; no needles. Ask the pharmacist to get these for you) An eyedropper can also work.
These are available at most drugstores.

*If you can’t find Pedialyte at the store, here is a recipe for homemade Pedialyte:

1 tsp salt (teaspoon)
3 Tbsp sugar (tablespoon)
1 quart warm water
Mix all ingredients in warm water. Store in refrigerator.

How to Prepare the Pedialyte
Use a plastic syringe (with or without a nipple). Never use pet nursers or doll bottles. They will choke the baby. Fill a coffee mug with hot water. Fill the syringe with Pedialyte and place it in the mug for a couple of minutes. Squirt a drop on the inside of your wrist to make sure the liquid isn’t too hot. It should feel barely warm on your skin.

Proper Position
A tiny baby should be held upright in your hand. A baby with fur can lie on a flat surface on his stomach. A baby that can walk can be held upright or he can drink sitting up. Hold the syringe so the tip points UP to the baby’s mouth and the handle is down. Don’t let the baby get cold. Keep him wrapped up while he eats.

How to Feed Fluids
Place the syringe tip on the baby’s lips (from the side) and squeeze out one drop for him to taste. Don’t squirt a steady stream. Let him swallow one drop before squeezing more. GO SLOW! It sometimes takes a feeding or two for them to catch on. Hairless babies are fed drop by drop. With older babies (once they catch on) you can squeeze slowly for one second, wait for him to swallow, then squeeze more.

If fluids dribble out his mouth or come out his nose, you are going too fast. Stop and tilt the baby’s head down so the fluid drains out (support his head and neck like you would a human baby). Then wipe his nose and mouth with a tissue. Start over, slower.
NOTE: There is now a chance your baby will develop aspiration pneumonia from inhaling fluid in his lungs. This is fatal. Please contact a rehabber or vet, or the people at The Squirrel Board, for assistance.

[Milo's Mom]

Need info of our NJ rehabbers, please!! http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35445

2 cat caught babies

[Milo's Mom]

I found that Beth also posted in the Thinking of Raising That Baby Yourself Sticky with her e-mail address, saying that she was having a hard time seeing responses.

I e-mailed her everything I posted so far and also instructed her to come back on TSB to this thread (I gave her the link) and to keep refreshing her screen to see responses.

I am not going to be on much longer. It appears that Deptford, NJ is almost due east of the Philadelphia airport.

[Sweet Simon's Mommy]

I also emailed her...no responce

[Milo's Mom]

I also emailed her...no responce

No response here either. :thinking

[shellyb1018]

Beth, I have just tried to PM you but you may not have access yet.
I am very close to you. You can call Cedar Run Wildlife, they are in Medford..856-983-3329. If you do not have transportation, they will also arrange a driver to come get the babies. In the meantime, if you need assistance with feeding, or what to do, I can help you. You should be getting access shortly and hopefully, the PM will go through. But please call Cedar Run, they are there for this reason. You are getting loads of help here to start you out to keep the babies fed and and taken care of.
Good luck!

[shellyb1018]

I have just emailed her with a rehab, and also offered my help. I am right around the corner from her, maybe like 15 minutes.

[Milo's Mom]

I have just emailed her with a rehab, and also offered my help. I am right around the corner from her, maybe like 15 minutes.

:thumbsup:thankyou

You got any meds on hand?

[jbtartell]

:thumbsup :thankyou yayyyy help is on the way..

[shellyb1018]

no meds that she would need, only infant motrin, rescue remedy, and Fox Valley. I hope she calls the rehab, If not I also have a vet that is closer to her than me. He would definitely help. But the rehab is her best bet, they will be than happy to take the babies.
She is just going to have to stabilize them til she can get them there. They are open on Saturday I do believe. Here's hoping she gets back to me. I did give her my number also in the email.

[Milo's Mom]

Just reached a well respected TSB member that is about an hour away with meds and can help if needed. Plan B is in place...now we just need to hear from Beth.

[Nancy in New York]

Just reached a well respected TSB member that is about an hour away with meds and can help if needed. Plan B is in place...now we just need to hear from Beth.


Nice work MM. I too sent her an email telling her that help is on the board. Nothing back yet....:shakehead

[shellyb1018]

Yes, I am on the edge of my seat, going back and forth between email and tsb...maybe she found Cedar Run, it is the first that will come up in a search and biggest one I think :thinking in NJ.

[Nancy in New York]

I just merged the two threads, I sure hope that Beth lets us know what's going on.:thumbsup

[island rehabber]

Great work everyone -- thank you shelby!! I am adding that wildife center to my list, because I too had heard that most NJ wildlife centers euthanize baby squirrels (too "labor intensive" to save :soapbox). We only have one actively rehabbing member that I know of in NJ now that Meg & PJ have moved, and that rehabber does not take babies in the fall. :(

[shellyb1018]

Beth emailed me, said she contacted the rehab, very vague message..told me she is feeding them Similac for babies, that they eating and drinking water. Also said they are pooping and peeing.
She told me she would call me, but I am still waiting to hear from her.
I have replied back to her the homemade pedialyte, Geesh, I would think these babies are dehydrated for sure but I dont know. Told her to do the pinch test.
Similac cant possibly good for them, could it?
Hopefully, for the babies sake, the rehab is coming to get them. I have inquired these questions and waiting on her response. :dono :shakehead

[Milo's Mom]

Thank you for the follow up Shellyb1018.
Similac...no, not great, not even good; HOWEVER, at least they are getting a few calories and hydration. Let's just hope and pray that the rehab center gets them or she takes you up on her offer.