Baby not pooping help me please

[Sueannpalma]

Hello every one I found a baby squirrel on wendsday and been feeding him kmr if been stimulating him to go to the bathroom with a warm paper towl in witch I wet then nook for 5-10 secs he's been peeing if not when I stim but when he gos in his bad ( has a hot warter bottle in it) but his has not pooped sence last night I'm getting worried that he may be cOntsapated some one please help me I don't wanna loose him :(

[SammysMom]

Welcome! KMR is NOT good for squirrels. Can you get goats milk? The best thing to use is Fox Valley which you can order online at http://www.foxvalleynutrition.com/main/home.asp

[quagmire]

How old is the squirrel? Eyes open or shut? Hair on body?

Try a little apple juice to relieve constipation. As long as your baby is sufficiently hydrated. Good luck.

[island rehabber]

Welcome! KMR is NOT good for squirrels. Can you get goats milk? The best thing to use is Fox Valley which you can order online at http://www.foxvalleynutrition.com/main/home.asp

:goodpost Below is our Emergency Care for baby squirrels, which is a sticky in the Emergency Forum....

http://www.thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21626

[iwonka]

I had a good result with the apple juice too.

The first, you have to stop this formula (garbage) and push Pedialyte.

I would start with diluted apple juice and then full strength apple juice.

[Sueannpalma]

Welcome! KMR is NOT good for squirrels. Can you get goats milk? The best thing to use is Fox Valley which you can order online at http://www.foxvalleynutrition.com/main/home.asp


My sister found a baby last year and they tould her to use puppy or kitten milk and he did great with it... a few sites also say its ok to use as well...

[Sueannpalma]

How old is the squirrel? Eyes open or shut? Hair on body?

Try a little apple juice to relieve constipation. As long as your baby is sufficiently hydrated. Good luck.


eyes closed still has purple spot were umbilitaocorde would be... peach fuzz


pics should be seen here

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150937286787109.406878.563512108&type=3

let me know if it dont work....


the place were iv been useing says about 2 weeks ... i think

[Sueannpalma]

I had a good result with the apple juice too.

The first, you have to stop this formula (garbage) and push Pedialyte.

I would start with diluted apple juice and then full strength apple juice.





a few sites said all that was to sweet for them... its a pain in that ass 1/2 the sites say this is good others say this is bad same w the milk uggggg

[island rehabber]

sueanne, you are here on The Squirrel Board asking us what is the best way to care for your baby squirrel. We are giving you the information you seek, based on the combined knowledge of rehabbers who have raised hundreds and hundreds of baby squirrels using these methods. If you choose to believe other sites on the net, we can't help you. The proven best method for raising baby squirrels is:

Fox Valley Day One for Squirrels: 32/40 for the first 4 wks of age.....20/50 afterward
Add Ultra Boost by Fox Valley if babies need to gain more weight

We recommend the goats milk formula while people are waiting for the Fox Valley to be delivered, because it cannot be bought in stores.

Esbilac and KMR are formulated for CARNIVORES. Fox Valley is formulated for Squirrels. It's really very logical if you think about it. :):peace Also, the parent company that makes both Esbilac and KMR changed their formulation a few years ago, and baby squirrels and bunnies started dying at an alarming rate. Since then, the company refuses to acknowledge that there is any issue at all with its product, and says that neither product was ever intended for use on wildlife. :shakehead

[CritterMom]

See where it says "quick links" in that horizontal bar under our The Squirrel Board banner? If you click it you can go to "Today's Posts." There are TWO PAGES of them! The benefit to a message board that is so busy is that we get new information really fast, and have the ability to spot problem trends really fast, due to just sheer numbers. Lots of successes here.

Rehydrate your baby with rehydration fluid, either the homemade described or commercial pedialyte. Give no longer than 24 hours, and NEVER mix the formula with the pedialyte instead of water.

Until you can get the correct food, the Fox Valley, use the goats milk formula given. Plain goats milk cannot raise a baby to adulthood because it does not have sufficient fat. However it is HIGHLY digestible and mixed with the other ingredients is a complete formula. The Fox Valley is better, but this is an excellent sub until you can get it.

If you continue using KMR or esbilac, your problem will be diarrhea. Due to manufacturing changes, they can't digest it very well anymore.

I really doubt your baby is constipated. He likely does not have enough in his system to need to eliminate any. Get him on the right formula and the poops will come.

[squirrelsrule&bunniestoo]

Esbilac used to be suitable for squirrels (KMR never really was, too high in protein and too low in fat, but used to be OK) but they changed how they make Esbilac and KMR and neither is suitable for squirrels anymore, either causes bloat or really bad diarrhea.

Fox Valley is the best formula you can get right now for squirrels. I'm not a huge FV fan, but believe me, they have the best stuff right now. PetAG products are so unpredictable, one can can be fine the next causes massive diarrhea and bloat.

Definitely take the advice found here, there is some crazy info. out on the web, don't believe everything you read and vets sadly are often not knowledgeable about wildlife, so asking your vet what formula probably won't help.

Good luck with your little tyke.

[stepnstone]

sueanne, you are here on The Squirrel Board asking us what is the best way to care for your baby squirrel. We are giving you the information you seek, based on the combined knowledge of rehabbers who have raised hundreds and hundreds of baby squirrels using these methods. If you choose to believe other sites on the net, we can't help you.


IR :bowdown

You don't know how many times I've wanted to scream this out of a bull horn!! :pissed
I know we are here for the squirrels so we are told to cushion our tongues, approach gingerly, be diplomatic, We don't want to scare the newcomer off, yadda, yadda, yadda...
We want to help! Still, with all the combined experience, all the combined knowledge we have to offer, we can still get hit with that wall of opposition. We get debated, dissected, argued with, and too often ignored at the expense of the poor creature we are trying to help. It is very frustrating to say the least!! :soapbox

Your post should be a sticky!!

[Grinderhead]

:Welcome you are at the right place now.I to was at those other sites till I found TSB.I don't post much I read and here is were you can get all the right answers.you asked and these good people will help you to there best.I have two 5 month old sisters that are doing great.Its because of tsb and a great rehabber I met here.:thumbsup :thankyou

[iwonka]

eyes closed still has purple spot were umbilitaocorde would be... peach fuzz


pics should be seen here

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150937286787109.406878.563512108&type=3

let me know if it dont work....


the place were iv been useing says about 2 weeks ... i think


179946

Please be careful with your cats! Your baby squirrel must be separated from other animals.. Accidents can happen so easily :shakehead

[Sueannpalma]

179946

Please be careful with your cats! Your baby squirrel must be separated from other animals.. Accidents can happen so easily :shakehead


Don't worrie about the cats. When I'm a sleep or leave the room my bed room door gets closed and they aren't aloud in my room with out me. When they are in my room the baby is right next to me. now about the stuff I gotta. Get how much is it and can I get it at a store bye me I don't own a cc. So I can't order any thing on line :thankyou

[iwonka]

I don't think you can find the FV in the store.. :thinking Call them.. I'm sure they will figure out how you can pay them. :thumbsup

Have you started the Goat milk formula ?
I hope your baby is pooping now?

Btw .. how much does he weigh?.. How much and how often do you feed him?

For cats: they are squirrels predators. Your baby should not be in any contact with them. He/she needs to learn that a cat IS NOT a friend :shakehead

[Sueannpalma]

I don't think you can find the FV in the store.. :thinking Call them.. I'm sure they will figure out how you can pay them. :thumbsup

Have you started the Goat milk formula ?
I hope your baby is pooping now?

Btw .. how much does he weigh?.. How much and how often do you feed him?

For cats: they are squirrels predators. Your baby should not be in any contact with them. He/she needs to learn that a cat IS NOT a friend :shakehead

He's pooping and may I get a site plz I'll price around. Maybe the exotic pet store will have it they sell suger gliders and some kind of chimp monks and bunnys

[CritterMom]

You won't find the Fox Valley at retail. It is available at:

www.foxvalleynutrition.com and
www.henryspets.com

I bet either of those folks (the woman at henrys is a TSB member) will be happy to work out a payment - both have telephone numbers on their sites and are actual human beings!

[iwonka]

http://www.foxvalleynutrition.com/prod/products.asp?PLID=1

[Sueannpalma]

What kind of goats milk can it be reg ?

[CritterMom]

What kind of goats milk can it be reg ?


You can use regular fresh goats milk - and mix w/ yogurt and cream as described.

You can also use evaporated goat's milk, which will be canned; or dry, powdered goats mik. In both of those cases, you mix it with water according to the package directions FIRST, then use it in the recipe like you would fresh GM.

[Sueannpalma]

What kind of goats milk can it be reg ?

mjs mjs mjs mjs
also night time feedings iv been doing it every 3-4 hours the local wild live place says not to do it at night but i get worried that hell be staving .. also mondays i go to job hunt club (for people with disablitys to find a job) and ill be gone and i have no one to feed him... it will only be from 10am till 1230-1 do you think hell be ok? and nvm on the goats milk i found on another thread that u mix reg goats milk wiping cream and yogert ? oh and also do i intro duce stright goats milk or no... ? mjs

[Sueannpalma]

mjs mjs mjs mjs
also night time feedings iv been doing it every 3-4 hours the local wild live place says not to do it at night but i get worried that hell be staving .. also mondays i go to job hunt club (for people with disablitys to find a job) and ill be gone and i have no one to feed him... it will only be from 10am till 1230-1 do you think hell be ok? and nvm on the goats milk i found on another thread that u mix reg goats milk wiping cream and yogert ? oh and also do i intro duce stright goats milk or no... ? mjs
Also can you sent me the amont it says parts but. Idk what that means mjs

[Skul]

What kind of goats milk can it be reg ?
Yes, that would be fine.

[Chickenlegs]

Hi darlin. You have a big heart to help your baby. It's NOT easy. Thanks to TSB, I've not only raised babies from just born to juveniles who bit the crap outta me, but become a licensed rehabilitator so I can help more critters. There ARE a lot of sights on the internet and I've looked at em all, then looked at formulas based on content of formula and what a squirrel needs to thrive. Know what? All the good folks here--AND in the Commonwealth of Virginia--AND the National Wildlife Federation are straight up with what you need to do to see your darling grow into a beautiful big squirrel. If you just can't scrape the money together to order some Fox Valley I'll send you some. You can mix it with your goats milk to stretch it if you have to. Sounds like your sweetie is finally pooping and that's great. Study the nutrition site. Please be warned that raising squirrels costs and if you are on a very limited income, maybe the very best thing is to let a licensed rehabilitator care for your darling. TSB has folks all over and can likely help with that if needed. We really do want to see another healthy happy squirrel grow up big and strong.

[Nancy in New York]

How is the little one doing? Would you want us to try to find a rehabber for you to get your little one to?
Sorry, just saw that Chickenlegs made that suggestion. Please let us know if you need our help finding someone.
These little ones can be very time consuming if done right, so not a problem if you feel you may be in over your head.
I remember my first squirrels, actually 8 babies at the same time, I didn't shower for 2 days, I kid you not....:shakehead :D Had no clue what I was doing, but I would finish feeding the last one, and the first one was hungry again.:tilt

[Sueannpalma]

hes on goats milk and he LOVES IT me and his "daddy" went today on his lunch to get the stuff and when i got home with him i feed him and ate my lunch and omg... every time i stopped to take a bite of my food he acted like he was starving.....

[Sueannpalma]

Hi darlin. You have a big heart to help your baby. It's NOT easy. Thanks to TSB, I've not only raised babies from just born to juveniles who bit the crap outta me, but become a licensed rehabilitator so I can help more critters. There ARE a lot of sights on the internet and I've looked at em all, then looked at formulas based on content of formula and what a squirrel needs to thrive. Know what? All the good folks here--AND in the Commonwealth of Virginia--AND the National Wildlife Federation are straight up with what you need to do to see your darling grow into a beautiful big squirrel. If you just can't scrape the money together to order some Fox Valley I'll send you some. You can mix it with your goats milk to stretch it if you have to. Sounds like your sweetie is finally pooping and that's great. Study the nutrition site. Please be warned that raising squirrels costs and if you are on a very limited income, maybe the very best thing is to let a licensed rehabilitator care for your darling. TSB has folks all over and can likely help with that if needed. We really do want to see another healthy happy squirrel grow up big and strong.


mjs How do you become a licenced rehaber? right now I’m studding to become an animal control officer... but id like to get a license to do that as well I have no problem taking care of my oly I just get worried that either he’s not getting enof food.. And stuff and it maybe harder for me because of my disability but I’m fine i just need to work harder . :jump

[CritterMom]

I guess you figured out the measuring? It doesn't matter how large or small the "part" is, as long as it remains the same. In other words, if you want to use a Tablespoon, it would be 3 Tablespoons of goats milk and one Tablespoon each of the yogurt and cream.

I wrote it that way so you could make a little or a lot, depending on how many mouths you are feeding, and the concentrations would always be the same.

[Nancy in New York]

If you have a grams scale, weigh the little one daily. They should eat between 5-7% of their body weight. You need to feed every two hours round the clock, which means through the night too.:thumbsup
Can you post a picture of your little one? We LOVE pictures!

[Sueannpalma]

If you have a grams scale, weigh the little one daily. They should eat between 5-7% of their body weight. You need to feed every two hours round the clock, which means through the night too.:thumbsup
Can you post a picture of your little one? We LOVE pictures!


IS ONE SURINGE FULL TO MUCH ? its like 3 ml? when hes done his tummy get big ... but it goes away after a little while


how offten at night shuld i do a feeding .. i do like 3-4 hours ex 1 at 2 am then at 6 am unless he crys