please help me

[cute_fluffy]

please tell me whats wrong with my baby..snowball keeps scratching the area around her left leg..she's suffering from a few hair loss..its been a couple of weeks since she had this..she's eating well..and no signs of any red spots..she doesn't roam anywhere so i barely think she can get any lice. i applied benzyl benzoate application on her which my vet recommended.

[Mrs Skul]

:morning Cute_Fluffy:Welcome
Welcome to TSB We need a Little more Information from you.
Did you find SnowBall as a Baby, or Buy her from a Pet Store? Is she a Palm Squirrel?
Her Fur look like she is Lacking Something in her Diet. About how much water does she drink a day? (Are you using a water bottle)
Can you list the foods you are feeding? About how much a day does she eat? How long have you had her and what is her age? Can you get her weight? Do you keep her inside the house or does she get out side time? :dono
Does she have access to Sun Light? (Squirrels Need the SUN to help absorb the Calcium.) What did the Vet say the Problem is? If she is Itching and Scratching it could be Mites, Lice, Fleas, or a allergy.
Did the Vet take a skin scrapping and look under a Microscope? (benzyl benzoate application) Is this a Topical medication you put between the shoulders? Did you see any sines of improvement? (Did the scratching stop or slow down?)
I use Revolution for Dogs. It is used on animals up to 10 pounds.
You will need to treat several times to Kill the Lice and Eggs, or Mites and the Eggs that will be hatch out. (The eggs will hatch out about every 2 weeks.)
I would treat her with that. (You can only get Revolution from a Vet.) Ask your Vet if he Carries Revolution for Dog or Cats. May be he has something that is comparable to it. Have him take a Skin scrapping and check for Mites or Lice.
They are so small it is Very Difficult to see them. Hang in there, More TSB Members will be on Shortly. Good Luck and I am Praying SnowBall gets a little relief. :grouphug
PS
Did you give SnowBall a bath at any time? If so what shampoo did you use? :thinking
If you get a chance check out the Squirrel Nutrition section, It will be Useful in her Diet.
http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32218
http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=191

[island rehabber]

Many questions, and they are all GOOD ones -- Mrs Skul is right on target. :thumbsup
I agree that her fur tells us she may be dehydrated or not getting all the nutrition she needs. If the bald spot is very round, almost a perfect circle, it could be ringworm. That is easy to treat with over-the-counter medications.

Please tell us a little bit more about her so we can help. :)

[Jackie in Tampa]

:wave123 If she is a pet, how old is she...
I ask, because that is the area that sqs will dig/scrartch at with MBD...
Metabolic Bone Disease...if she is a baby , this would not be the reason.
In the pic, her fur is standing, indicating pain and or dehydration..
I cannot tell her age.

I doubt it is lice..she would be all over itching:peace
If her fur got spikey after you used the benzyl benzoate, I would not use it again, she may have had an allergic reaction to it..however it should be safe.

Dietary issues also will create random bald spots.
TSB has a nutrition section
http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=191

Please share her diet so the rehabbers can help diagnose her issue.

[cute_fluffy]

i found snowball as a baby( when she was 3 weeks old).yup she's a palm squirrel.now she's about one year old..well her diet consist of fruits like watermelon ,apple,orange,guava, banana ..vegetables: bell pepper, carrot, cabbage and so on..i feed her sesame seeds too..yup she drinks 10 ml of water per day..she eats smaller amounts of food whenever she gets hungry..i keep her inside the home cuz there is cat trouble in the neighborhood. yup she does has access to sun light.
Vet didn't take any skin samples..he just took a look at her and recommended it..i think her scratching has slowed down..but she has developed some tiny little hairless spots on the area around her right leg too..i gave her a bath yesterday with baby soap and warm water..ok i'll ask from my vet if he has revolution for dogs and cats

(benzil benzoate is some medication used in the topical treatment of scabies.it acts on the nervous system of the parasite, resulting in its death)
:( i'm so scared about my lil snow ball..in our country vets don't really care about small animals like squirrels.they give their priority to animals like dogs and cats..grrr...even my vet said skin tests aren't necessary for her..:(:( please pray for my snow ball..

[cute_fluffy]

i washed off benzyl benzoate from her

[CritterMom]

Revolution's actual drug name is selamectin and it may be sold under a different brand name in Sri Lanka. It is one of those that you put a couple drops on the skin on the back of the neck and it is absorbed through the skin and works that way.

The only think I saw on the list of foods that has a good amount of calcium is the sesame seeds. It is hard to provide for these guys in places where exotic pet foods can't be found. Consider adding some calcium to her diet, even if you are just breaking a bit off one of your own calcium supplements and hiding it in her food.

[cute_fluffy]

is it ok if i give her TUMS daily as a calcium supplement ? and can u tell me the amount needed for a palm squirrel? And there's one more question..i can't find any squirrel blocks here in sri lanka.( our pet stores only have dogs & kitten formulas like pedigree) what should i do?

[Jackie in Tampa]

yes..I put entire tums tablet in every sqs cage here each week when I change out their fleece.
Mine will eat on them as needed...
one of my kids licks them until they look like LifeSavers Candys, a hole in the middle...too cute!

Let me do some research and see where you can find rat blocks in sri lanka..
maybe others know!:thumbsup tinfoil anyone???:poke

[cute_fluffy]

her hairless spot has developed more..:(:( any solution please?

[cute_fluffy]

Immediate help please..she's scratching like hell

[Jackie in Tampa]

is she scratching the same spot or all over in different areas?

If she is digging ONLY where the bald spot is, it may be pain, not itching.
Again thinking MBD. The bones ache from low calcium.
I would start the emergency MBD treatment.

If you think it is a mite/bug, a bath may relieve some itching temporarily.

Diet is key to so many issues.
If nutrition is good, they are not susceptible to weak immune system, allowing parasite outbreaks.
If it is a flea infestation, you will need a topical treatment, I would recommend Revolution/selamectin. Maybe called Stronghold as a brand name.

Hope this helps you put your finger on what's going on.
The MBD treatment will not hurt either way.

[cute_fluffy]

the tiny little bold spots on her right leg has developed more..i saw some pics of squirrels with ringworm..her bold spots look exactly like that..i think it's a ringworm..is it ok to apply virgin coconut oil on those spots? any treatment?
i bathed her few minutes ago

[cute_fluffy]

can u tell me more about the MBD treatment for a palm squirrel..is it okay to feed her one whole calcium pill?

[CritterMom]

They are very small as compared to our tree squirrels, which is what our protocol is written for. I would just try to get 100-150mg of calcium into her daily. You can break the pills up and offer that way or grind it and "hide" it in other food. I don't think it is causing the itching - I would see your vet about getting either something like the Revolutin (selectamin) or some ivermectin. Ivermectin is very effective but very dose critical - too much CAN harm your squirrel, so make sure your vet knows what they are doing!

I just read the diet and didn't see really enough calcium in there and wanted to point that out so it could be taken care of BEFORE it causes problems.:thumbsup

[Jackie in Tampa]

They are very small as compared to our tree squirrels, which is what our protocol is written for. I would just try to get 100-150mg of calcium into her daily. You can break the pills up and offer that way or grind it and "hide" it in other food. I don't think it is causing the itching - I would see your vet about getting either something like the Revolutin (selectamin) or some ivermectin. Ivermectin is very effective but very dose critical - too much CAN harm your squirrel, so make sure your vet knows what they are doing!

I just read the diet and didn't see really enough calcium in there and wanted to point that out so it could be taken care of BEFORE it causes problems.:thumbsup
I am sorry, But I have to disagree..
I know sqs very well...I know MBD too..
I will get a pic right now of two sqs that are def low calcium with bald spots from digging at their aches...same damn place.
please believe JIT...she does know somethings!!!!!

Start the MBD treatment please...get to a vet as soon as possible for a skin scrapping, IMO, it is better to be safe than seizures/dead.

Let me go get those pics right NOW!!!

[Jackie in Tampa]

these two sqs dig and itch constantly..
they do not have ring worm or mites or fleas.
They both are confirmed to have Metabolic Bone Disease.{MBD}
Years ago, I too thought ringworm when I saw the perfectly bald patch..
as new hair came in, it seemed the bald patch would shift over a tad...sothe bald spot moved..in my sqs case, it was a dietary issue. I have seen this many many times over the years.
...I am not saying it isn't a skin condition..
...however...I am saying that a calcium treatment is not going to hurt your sq and if it were me, I would start immediately.
I would go to a vet and ask for skin scrapping and also an Xray..
If the vet will do blood work, it is also advised.
The answer to low calcium is in the diet.
Yes a human calcium pill can be used, NO VIT D!

[cute_fluffy]

right now i have hamocal 500 pills..it contains calcium & CHOLECALCIFEROL..her hairless spot seems to be growing..is that a symptom of MBD?

[Jackie in Tampa]

that is a calcium and VIT D suppliment.
I do not recommend using it.:shakehead
The ratios are for humans and not rodents, the D is too high.
If you can get Tums or Rolaids, that is a good calcium source...
OR
crush eggshells.. a medium sized chicken egg is roughly 1600mg of calcium..
some sqs will eat it outright, otherwise you may need to mortar and pestal it fine and sprinkle on foods that you know he will eat.
I do recommend starting the treatment and ALSO having a vet check for parasites...
A bath in Dawn Dish Soap will help with some parasites, others require Rx meds.
Good luck and thank you for reaching out for advise!:bowdown

[Itchiku's dad]

CHOLECALCIFEROL is vitamin D3 Which is not good in large continuous doses. You need to find plain calcium for MBD treatment. JIT beat me to it.

[cute_fluffy]

thanks guys..i really appreciate your help...please pray for her..

[Itchiku's dad]

I think we all pray for all the animals that are posted on this board. Also with her diet if you can swap banana for papaya would be better for her as banana has a 1 to 4 calcium phosphorus ratio and papaya is 4 to 1. try and find some tums or other plain calcium and if it is possible to get an x ray that will help a lot and keep us up to date on her progress. i know how difficult it is to find some things in Southeast Asia compared to the western countries as i live in Thailand and most of the time it's like nailing smoke to the wall.

[Mrs Skul]

that is a calcium and VIT D supplement.
I do not recommend using it.:shakehead
The ratios are for humans and not rodents, the D is too high.
If you can get Tums or Rolaids, that is a good calcium source...
OR
crush eggshells.. a medium sized chicken egg is roughly 1600mg of calcium..
some sqs will eat it outright, otherwise you may need to mortar and pestal it fine and sprinkle on foods that you know he will eat.
I do recommend starting the treatment and ALSO having a vet check for parasites...
A bath in Dawn Dish Soap will help with some parasites, others require Rx meds.
Good luck and thank you for reaching out for advise!:bowdown
:goodpost
:wave123 Hi Cute_Fluffy
Some times if you contact some one selling the Squirrel Supplies they might be able to Mail Supplies to you. If you have a PayPal account or a Credit Card to do the Order. It is worth Checking into. Let us know what the Vet said after he Scrapes the skin.
Who is it that has Palm Squirrels on TSB??? :dono I can't remember. ANY ONE REMEMBER Who IT IS??? :thinking

[Fireweed]

chickoo has a palm squirrel... Here's one of her threads:

http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15594&highlight=chikoo+palm+squirrel

[cute_fluffy]

vet said it's a fungus..he gave me Mycoral cream and Grisaben 500 and Avil pills ..1/10 of the Grisaben pill and 1/6 of the Avil pill twice daily..he also said snow ball seems to be having a vitamin deficiency.. she eats veges and fruits well..is it possible to have a vitamin deficiency? he gave a multivitamin called Petvit liquid..which is for cats and dogs..there's some awful doggy smell coming from that vitamin ...snow ball seems to ignore it completely. I didnt force feed her..
well there's one thing with snow ball..she loves to eat fruits more than veges..she's so picky with her food..is there any way to make her eat more veges than fruits..?

[Itchiku's dad]

How's the little girl today. Was trying to research the drugs the vet gave you but Grisaben 500 did not come up> Is that the correct spelling?

[cute_fluffy]

i'm sorry its Griseofulvin 500 pills..she's doing fine..but she has lost her appetite a bit..so i'm feeding her vege soup & fruit juices..is it ok to give yogurt to her?

[stosh2010]

Sending PRAYERS to your Little One....

[Sweet Simon's Mommy]

yogurt is good for her, some like it some don't.
Is your vet knowledgeable about MBD ??
I am only giving my opinion here, but some vets aren't very educated about squirrels and their special needs, they are different from other wildlife and domesticated pets. So there have been many posts on the board about what a vet suggested and it was not correct.
However , non-vets on here who have years and years of hands on experience DO know about squirrels and their needs, just saying.

If you are comfortable with your vet and feel he knows a lot about squirrels, by all means listen to him, however please take into consideration those who know from personal experience also.
Keep up the good work , lets hope we get to the bottom of this and get your little one on the mend.

[Itchiku's dad]

Yes yogurt is good it will settle her tummy full fat is better if you can get it.

[Mrs Skul]

Emergency Treatment for MBD

Get calcium into the squirrel IMMEDIATELY, not later, not tomorrow, NOW.
Delaying treatment can cause death or permanent paralysis.

You will need:
Tums, rolaids, or calcium supplement (any kind)
a syringe or spoon
Crush one pill and add a little water or fruit juice to make a paste. Use the syringe or spoon to force-feed the mixture, a little at a time, until it is all gone.

After you give the initial dose of calcium, give 100 mg calcium every 4 hours. If symptoms return or do not improve, try dosing more often: every 3 hours. Severe cases may need 50 mg calcium every 2 hours.

Your squirrel's symptoms should improve within a few hours; within 1-3 days your squirrel should be alert, active, and eating, with no seizures or paralysis. You should be giving 500-600 mg calcium per day. Keep track of how many doses you give so you can adjust the dosage if needed. You should work with TSB members to do this.

Important!

Any kind of calcium pill is okay for the initial dose. But you must use PLAIN calcium carbonate (without Vit D) from then on.

Many small doses of calcium throughout the day/night are best to keep blood calcium levels as steady as possible.

If symptoms worsen or return, give an emergency dose of 100 mg calcium, then consult with TSB members or a rehabber or veterinarian to adjust the dosing schedule. Relapses are very serious and often fatal.

White feces or a white film on dried urine may mean the dosage can be reduced, as this indicates not all of the calcium is being absorbed. It may also mean you need to give smaller doses more often.

The acute symptoms (weakness, lethargy, seizures, paralysis) will usually improve within a few hours, but this does not mean the squirrel is cured. It will take many months to rebuild the calcium in the bones. (See the "Long-Term Treatment for MBD" below.)

More Tips

MBD causes brittle bones that break easily. You should pad the bottom of your squirrel's cage and keep him away from high places, where he might jump and break a bone.

Heat is very soothing for a squirrel with MBD. A heating pad turned to low and placed so they cannot chew the pad or cord, or a rice buddy (a sock filled with dry rice/beans and microwaved for about 20 seconds) will work. Squirrels with hind-end paralysis may benefit from gentle massage of the legs and hips.


Long-Term Treatment for MBD

The next step to curing MBD is to fix the diet.

1. Remove ALL seeds, nuts, corn, and treats, including stashes.

2. Follow the Healthy Diet For Pet Squirrels, which can be found here: http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=32046 and on the Henry’s Healthy Pets website (http://www.henryspets.com/pages/Healthy-Diet.html). Your squirrel MUST eat rodent blocks or squirrel blocks every day (either 2 Henry's Healthy Squirrel Blocks per day, or a small handful of commercial rodent block per day). If you choose to feed commercial rodent blocks, which are extremely hard, you should crush them up with peanut butter, yogurt, fruit juice, avocado, baby food, etc., to make them easier to chew and improve the taste.

3. You will need to continue giving extra calcium every day for many weeks. You can use a syringe or spoon, or you can mix the calcium with a small amount of peanut butter, crushed nuts, yogurt, baby food, or any food the squirrel likes. An easy way to dose the calcium is to mix 500 mg of calcium powder with 1 tablespoon of peanut butter or other tasty food and roll it into 5 little balls; each ball will contain 100 mg calcium.

Calcium Dosage:

Continue to give 500-600 mg calcium per day for 1 week. Then try reducing the total daily amount by 50 mg. If the squirrel remains stable for 1 week, reduce the daily amount by another 50 mg. Continue this weekly reduction until the squirrel is only getting around 100 mg of extra calcium per day. Continue this for at least another 2 weeks. If at any time symptoms return, give an emergency 100 mg dose, then go back to a higher dosage for 1-2 weeks.

The treatment for each squirrel may be slightly different and you should work with a rehabber or TSB members to tailor the treatment to your squirrel's needs. Depending on the age of the squirrel, severity of disease, and other factors, your squirrel may need extra calcium for many months, perhaps for life.

Important Information
The MBD treatment is a "standardized" treatment that will get most cases on the road to recovery. But every case is different and the treatment should be customized to each squirrel. Severe cases sometimes need more aggressive treatment. There is a limit to how much calcium the body can absorb at one time, so lower doses of calcium given more often is the key with severe cases.

What is MBD?
Calcium is a very important nutrient. It strengthen the bones, but also plays a vital role in all body functions. Every cell in the body contains water plus small amounts of dissolved minerals such as calcium, sodium, magnesium, and potassium. These minerals allow the cells to transmit small electrical signals. Without this cell-to-cell communication, the organs can't function: your heart can't beat, your nerves can't transmit impulses; in fact, you would die.

When there isn't enough calcium in the diet, the body will dissolve the calcium from the bones and use that instead. This eventually causes the bones to become depleted of calcium. Eventually the bones become so depleted, there isn't enough calcium left to maintain sufficient calcium in the cellular fluids, and the organs can't function properly. This is what causes the symptoms of MBD: loss of appetite, lethargy, muscle pain, paralysis, seizures, and eventually death. Humans don't get this type of severe MBD, partly because our calcium requirement is lower and our bones are much bigger, allowing us to store more calcium.

By giving high doses of calcium orally, you are artificially maintaining your squirrel's blood calcium levels because his bones no longer contain enough calcium to maintain his calcium levels normally.

Once the emergency calcium is given, your squirrel's blood calcium levels should normalize fairly quickly. He should "bounce back" and act normal or almost normal. If you are still seeing symptoms such as seizures, loss of appetite, lethargy, or paralysis, the calcium levels may still be too low. This means the body will try to pull the remaining calcium from the bones, which means the MBD is actually getting worse. So stabilizing blood calcium levels is critical. The next step to actually curing the MBD is rebuilding bone. This is the part that takes a long time.

Stabilizing the blood calcium levels can and must be done quickly. In severe cases, calcium may be needed more often throughout the day and night, as often as every 2 hours.

[cute_fluffy]

yogurt is good for her, some like it some don't.
Is your vet knowledgeable about MBD ??
I am only giving my opinion here, but some vets aren't very educated about squirrels and their special needs, they are different from other wildlife and domesticated pets. So there have been many posts on the board about what a vet suggested and it was not correct.
However , non-vets on here who have years and years of hands on experience DO know about squirrels and their needs, just saying.

If you are comfortable with your vet and feel he knows a lot about squirrels, by all means listen to him, however please take into consideration those who know from personal experience also.
Keep up the good work , lets hope we get to the bottom of this and get your little one on the mend.


he's a veterinary surgeon.i think he's educated about squirrels..yup he does know about MBD. but i'll consider about those possibilities too...thanks for the opinion sweet simon's mummy...:) :thumbsup

[Mrs Skul]

:morning Cut_Fluffy
Did the Vet do a skin Scrapping, or give a Calcium Shot?
Did He Ask you about the Diet of your Squirrel? :thinking Have you given any Tums as Jackie Suggested?? :dono SnowBall is Lacking Calcium Badly! :shakehead
Have you read the Squirrel Nutrition Yet?
http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/show
thread.php?t=15397
http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32218
I sent a PM to Chickoo to see if she will stop in and Clarify the Diet of a palm Squirrel. Good Luck.
I am Keeping SnowBall & You in my Prayers.

[cute_fluffy]

:morning Cut_Fluffy
Did the Vet do a skin Scrapping, or give a Calcium Shot?
Did He Ask you about the Diet of your Squirrel? :thinking Have you given any Tums as Jackie Suggested?? :dono SnowBall is Lacking Calcium Badly! :shakehead
Have you read the Squirrel Nutrition Yet?
http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/show
thread.php?t=15397
http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32218
I sent a PM to Chickoo to see if she will stop in and Clarify the Diet of a palm Squirrel. Good Luck.
I am Keeping SnowBall & You in my Prayers.

i gave the emergency MBD treatment to her..yup he asked about the diet..he also took a skin scraping and examined it..

[crazysquirrels]

Why so much fruit? It seems like ALOT.

[cute_fluffy]

i'll be getting the squirrel blocks after month..until then i'm thinking of giving her Heinz Farley's Rusks..will that be good for her?

[Itchiku's dad]

The problem is they are very high in sugar. It's hard to know what to suggest. I'm waiting for HHB's to arrive for Itchiku, but luckily he will still drink formula out of a dish and he gets vegetables and fruit. With vegetables you have to keep trying different things one week they love something and the next they won't touch it, when that happens drop it for a week or so.

[cute_fluffy]

The problem is they are very high in sugar. It's hard to know what to suggest. I'm waiting for HHB's to arrive for Itchiku, but luckily he will still drink formula out of a dish and he gets vegetables and fruit. With vegetables you have to keep trying different things one week they love something and the next they won't touch it, when that happens drop it for a week or so.

i guess you are correct..i'll try that..

[cute_fluffy]

need your opinions...my vet recommended a multivitamin supplement called Petvit Liquid ( which is for cats and dogs) i gave her once..but snowball doesn't like it..just worried whether to give it to her or not...

[Itchiku's dad]

not too sure about that looks like a lot of vitamin A. only use 0.2 ml and I'm really not sure about that as I'm no expert. I'll try and PM someone who would know.

[Sweet Simon's Mommy]

I have the powder vitamin pack from Henry's ...it says A is 106 IU per day, so yes I would say the A is way off.

[Itchiku's dad]

That;s what I checked against. that 2500 is for a 5ml serving so I calculated 0.2 ml but not sure if I'm right though.

[Itchiku's dad]

o.k I PM'd Leigh from Henry's Healthy Pets and this was her reply.

It's no trouble at all.

The dog/cat vitamins of course are different from rodent requirements, but it doesn't appear to be dangerous as long as you only give a tiny drop. However, the PetVit does not cover all the vitamins, and contains no essential minerals. So he should continue to try to find a better solution for his squirrel's diet long-term.

There are a few online pet stores in India that sell rodent blocks; perhaps they will ship to Sri Lanka. And of course, Henry's can ship for a reasonable cost. With one pound of the Henry's Protein and 200 g of the Henry's Vita-Mins, the person could make enough homemade blocks to last a small squirrel for 6 months or so. Or three bags of HHB's would probably last such a small squirrel at least 4 months.

Let me know if there's anything else we can do.

Leigh

[cute_fluffy]

heaps of thanks guys..that was really helpful:bowdown

[cute_fluffy]

snow ball refuses to eat veges.. i tried making a salad and mixing with a lil bit of mayonnaise:dono she wouldn't even look it :shakehead ..she's really stubborn these days..maybe she has lost her appetite because of the meds i give her:shakehead so i gave her one tea spoon of cerelac baby cereal which is high in calcium ..i hope that's okay..it contains ,

Cereal (Enzymatically Hydrolysed Wheatflour 27%, Wheatflour 19%), Skimmed Milk Powder 23%, Dried Apple 11% (contains Emulsifier: Sunflower Lecithin), Vegetable Oils, Maltodextrin, Corn Starch, Mineral Mix (Calcium Carbonate, Iron Fumarate, Zinc Sulphate, Potassium Iodide), Vitamin Mix (C, Niacin, E, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamin [B1], A, B6, Biotin, Folacin [Folic Acid], D, K), Probiotic Culture (Bifidobacterium Lactis)

oh i forgot to mention.. for the breakfast she had oatmeal (with goats milk). goats milk doesn't do any harm for them right?:dono
plus I'v been thinking of making boo balls for her..but it's hard to find some ingredients like rodent blocks, powdered Fox Valley squirrel formula here in Sri Lanka.:sanp3 .please could you kindly suggest me any replacement for them..

also one more question :thinking wandering whether to sprinkle some powdered calcium to her fruit juice ? i didnt do it yet cuz she's been getting meds twice per day..would that be too much drugs for her?

[Itchiku's dad]

The cerelac isn't the best thing, but that's what most the people who keep squirrels here in Thailand feed their squirrels. While I wouldn't use it in the long term. It has to be better than nothing in the short term until you can find something better. I would add a bit of yogurt to it.
The rat blocks are an important part of boo balls as they contain the vitamins and minerals as does the fox valley. Try searching India for Harlan Teklad 2018, Kaytee rat and mouse pro. To substitute for fox valley look for Royal Canin baby puppy formula, which is what I give Itchiku.
I have given up on finding rat blocks in Thailand now and have ordered 2 bags of Henry's squirrel blocks. Like palm squirrels Itchiku is very small compared to a grey squirrel so this should last about 4 months. It's a bit more expensive this way, but at least I know my baby boy will get top nutrition, and I'll have peace of mind.
Is there any calcium in her meds? Can you find out the calcium, phosphorous, vitamin A and D amounts too?

[cute_fluffy]

The cerelac isn't the best thing, but that's what most the people who keep squirrels here in Thailand feed their squirrels. While I wouldn't use it in the long term. It has to be better than nothing in the short term until you can find something better. I would add a bit of yogurt to it.
The rat blocks are an important part of boo balls as they contain the vitamins and minerals as does the fox valley. Try searching India for Harlan Teklad 2018, Kaytee rat and mouse pro. To substitute for fox valley look for Royal Canin baby puppy formula, which is what I give Itchiku.
I have given up on finding rat blocks in Thailand now and have ordered 2 bags of Henry's squirrel blocks. Like palm squirrels Itchiku is very small compared to a grey squirrel so this should last about 4 months. It's a bit more expensive this way, but at least I know my baby boy will get top nutrition, and I'll have peace of mind.
Is there any calcium in her meds? Can you find out the calcium, phosphorous, vitamin A and D amounts too?


:sanp3 couldn't find amounts of calcium phosphorous, vitamins in Griseofulvin tab...And here's what i found about avil tab,

Active Ingredient
Avil tablets contain the active
ingredient pheniramine maleate.
There is 45.3 mg of pheniramine
maleate in every tablet.
Inactive Ingredients
* maize starch
* sodium starch glycollate
* lactose
* colloidal silica
* microcrystalline cellulose
* magnesium stearate
Avil preparations do not contain
gluten, tartrazine or azo dyes.


same here.given up on rodent blocks..:shakehead .i had to go through a hell searching for them here in SL.cuz practically no one raises squirrels in our country.:shakehead well...my uncle lives in USA..so i asked him to send a few bags of squirrel blocks for snowball..hopefully i'll receive them after a month.:) :) until then i have to make sure she gets nutritious food..sadly she's not very fond of veges..i tried some vege tricks..:dono but no result.I know it won't happen in one fortnight..but still i can't starve her to eat veges because of the meds:dono .m literary going nuts wondering what to do:dono :dono

[Itchiku's dad]

If you go to the nutrition forum you'll see a calcium ratio chart it's a pdf file so you can download it and keep it on your computer. It will give a good idea on what things to try. Itchiku's not a big veggie fan either. He never eats any lettuce but will eat things like sweet peas, broccoli sometimes. Luckily he still drinks his royal canin puppy formula out of a small dish twice a day. He also has Exo Terra calcium supplement once a day. The medication that snowball is taking are anti fungal, so you can supplement with calcium but make sure it's just calcium without Vit D. If you have a good chemist near you ask them and the should be able to help you.
How is snowball doing now? Is she still itching and is it improving?

[cute_fluffy]

she's better now..but still itching a bit...:shakehead:dono she seems to itch once she has her meds..:thinking should i stop her meds? i asked my vet about this and he said its not because of the meds. but i'm starting to worry whether she's allergic to them..:shakehead ... i sprinkled some powdered calcium to her grape juice..fed her cerelac with full fat yogurt.she seems to like it ..alright i'll check the calcium ratio chart..i'll try my best to find the royal canin puppy formula..i think its available here..:bowdown thanks for the info

[Kelly Brady]

Hi cute_fluffy,

Just checking in on you and snowball. It must be tough living outside of the states for ordering and obtaining some things you need.
Sounds like itchiku's dad and you are working it out.
I do agree that ordering henrys healthy blocks are a great idea.
If you order them and make sure they get used to eating them, your squirrel will be soo darn healthy you won't believe it.
I have always used them. Always. I have had blood work done on two squirrels and the Dr. always says what ever you are feeding them, keep it up. She had never seen all blood levels including calcium etc. to be so perfect
All of my kids get an HHB in the morning. When it is finished they get fresh veggies. (None of my squirrels would touch veggies with salad dressing on them). Then another HHB for dinner and if that is eaten then a piece or two of fresh fruit. if they didn't eat well that day, they don't get fruit at all and if they do eat well, they get a nut for a reward too!
If they don't eat their block then I am firm in nothing else until it is eaten. P.S. they will eat veggies if they are hungry. They will. Be patient they won't starve themselves.
I hope the itching stops and that snowball feels better soon.:wave123

[island rehabber]

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[cute_fluffy]

Hi cute_fluffy,

Just checking in on you and snowball. It must be tough living outside of the states for ordering and obtaining some things you need.
Sounds like itchiku's dad and you are working it out.
I do agree that ordering henrys healthy blocks are a great idea.
If you order them and make sure they get used to eating them, your squirrel will be soo darn healthy you won't believe it.
I have always used them. Always. I have had blood work done on two squirrels and the Dr. always says what ever you are feeding them, keep it up. She had never seen all blood levels including calcium etc. to be so perfect
All of my kids get an HHB in the morning. When it is finished they get fresh veggies. (None of my squirrels would touch veggies with salad dressing on them). Then another HHB for dinner and if that is eaten then a piece or two of fresh fruit. if they didn't eat well that day, they don't get fruit at all and if they do eat well, they get a nut for a reward too!
If they don't eat their block then I am firm in nothing else until it is eaten. P.S. they will eat veggies if they are hungry. They will. Be patient they won't starve themselves.
I hope the itching stops and that snowball feels better soon.:wave123
thanks kelly...:thankyou