Pippa's eye needs to be removed, donations needed desperately!

[SquirrelLove]

I took Pippa to the E.R. at U of F vet hospital. I took her in on an emergency basis but it's too late, her eye needs to be removed. The swelling is about 3 to 4 times the normal eye, it has went gray and she's suffering greatly. It was $239. just to walk through the E.R. doors. I was able to pay that, but the surgery is going to cost approximately $2000. per the Dr. there, and they want me to bring her in Monday to see the opthamalogist, which I just can't afford right now. I don't want her to die, but I may not have a choice. I'm calling around on Monday and getting in line at my vet which takes people on a walk in first come first serve basis and seeing if she can remove the eye for a lesser charge.
If you can spare a dollar, or a few dollars I would appreciate it at Todd.springberg@gmail.com (Paypal account) It's my husband's name.

Thank you, Joanne in Jax

[lilidukes]

Hi, I realize your in a panic over Pippa:grouphug , now it's time to calm down and look at everything. I took a squirrel Mariska whose eye had died 2 years ago to an exotic vet/surgeon at that time the surgery to remove the eye and tear duct, some dental work too was quoted at $500-800 tops. Money was not a factor or issue here and the decision to leave the eye was made. I also have a boy Puffy whose eye appears to look like it will pop out of his head at any time it is white and has been like this for almost a year now. Puff is a happy butter ball sharing his cage with another NR. At this time the eye does not give him pain,

Now a few questions about Pippa

What is causing this?
Is the eye infected?
Is the eye ball itself dying?
Or is she just going blind?
Why remove the eye?
And are they going to remove the tear ducts too??

Please help us all understand a little more about what's going on with this beautiful girl.

Florida is blessed with so many fine vets and surgeons to choose from. A more experienced vet with issues such as this may be able to give you more options.

I'm not downing your vet just wanting to nderstand a little more about what's going on.

:grouphug Pippa :grouphug

:grouphug :grouphug :grouphug

[Jackie in Tampa]

Dr Lightfoot would not remove a dead eye in Lucky, she said surgery is very diffecult, DrLightfoot is top surgeon..
she said there is a artery on the back of the eye ball that once cut can cause major bleed out. I was also told it's best to let the eye die with ABs..if it is going to die , this gives the body time to heal that artery naturallly.
deep breaths...
hugs Joanne
kisses to your baby.

I have seen Puffs eye and it's scarey, but as lili shared, he is fine and happy.

[SquirrelLove]

Her eye is dead and causing quite a lot of pain too. She is always rubbing the area around it also as it is red and swollen. She hasn't moved in over 15 hours now but is breathing.( No meds given yet as she will not take them yet) No movement means she isn't eating or drinking. She is breathing and I touched her front foot and she moved her toes around my finger a little bit. She cannot see out of the eye either and will never see out of it again.

I don't know if they plan to remove the tear ducts or not? I am not knowledgeable in the medical field and know very little.

What brought us to the conclusion of her needing her eye out was I have been taking her to different vets to try and find out what is causing the problem, is it a tumor, glaucoma, infection, etc. No one seems to know what it is and the most progress I have made is at U of F in Gainesville FL and they want to have the opthamologist look at it tomorrow. They have pushed the appointment to 2pm for me so I can stop at my regular vet and see if they will remove the eye at a lesser cost. If they can't then I will once again drive to Gainesville and sleep in my car for 3 days as they said she will need to be hospitalized for 3 days. This is also where the expense is coming in. Here is an itemized report of what they seen so far....

Upon physical exam, Pippa's left eye was significantly enlarged compared to her right eye. The globe was also extremely firm to the touch suggesting elevated pressures in the globe. There was diffuse whitening of the cornea and the pupil in the left eye appeared unreactive to light. Lungs and heart sounds were clear, no arrhythmia's or murmurs detected.
A complete physical exam was not performed as the patient was not placed under anesthesia which limited handling.

Attitude: Alert, responsive. Hydration: Adequate. Membrane color: Pink.
Body Condition 3. Respiratory Character: Effortless. Body Weight at admit: 400 g. Heart Rate: 400 BPM.

Fluorescein stain on left eye showed no uptake ruling out corneal ulcerations. Radiographs were not done at this time.

Meloxicam 1.5 mg suspension to be give 0.15 mls by mouth once daily for pain and inflammation. Side effects can include anorexia and GI upset. Tramadol, give 0.1 mls by mouth ever 8 to 12 hours for pain, this medication may cause sedation.

We would like to have Pipp's left eye examined by our ophthalmology service to better assess the pathology causing the acute increase of buphthalmia.

Here is a list of charges *ESTIMATED* from the vet at the E.R., what they are going to do tomorrow (Monday) if I can get the money together and if my vet can't just remove the eye. :

Waste Disposal Fee $5.
Opthalmology Misc. Fee $12.
Anesthesia 1st hour: $77. and A$70 per each additional half hour.
Zoo Operating room: $115.
Surgery - $400
LB1 Biopsy 1-2 : $85.
Hospitalization ZM Per Day: $72.75
ZM Daily Treatment: $48.
Tube or Force feed, each day : $52.50
ZM Fluid Therapy (IV/IO/SQ) : $63.
MISC ITEM, to be itemized on final invoice: $150 per day, possibly more. (Medications or other needed care)

Minimum total to be no less than $1,223.
This estimate includes only the items listed. All inpatients are required to leave a deposit of 75% of the estimate upon admission. Full payment of the entire balance is due at time of discharge to receive pet.

I understand that this is an estimated total and actual charges may vary, I will be billed for charges not known at time of discharge.
Client Signature __________

The above was copied (Typed by me) from the University of Florida Veterinary hosptials estimate that they gave me. She verbally said it could be as much at $2000, even possibly more if more extensive problems arise.

Sorry this is so long, but I really need help and so wanted to make sure I shared everything I know about the situation. You're RIGHT, I'm in a PANIC over my dear sweet Pippa!

Thank you, Joanne in Jax :shakehead


Hi, I realize your in a panic over Pippa:grouphug , now it's time to calm down and look at everything. I took a squirrel Mariska whose eye had died 2 years ago to an exotic vet/surgeon at that time the surgery to remove the eye and tear duct, some dental work too was quoted at $500-800 tops. Money was not a factor or issue here and the decision to leave the eye was made. I also have a boy Puffy whose eye appears to look like it will pop out of his head at any time it is white and has been like this for almost a year now. Puff is a happy butter ball sharing his cage with another NR. At this time the eye does not give him pain,

Now a few questions about Pippa

What is causing this?
Is the eye infected?
Is the eye ball itself dying?
Or is she just going blind?
Why remove the eye?
And are they going to remove the tear ducts too??

Please help us all understand a little more about what's going on with this beautiful girl.

Florida is blessed with so many fine vets and surgeons to choose from. A more experienced vet with issues such as this may be able to give you more options.

I'm not downing your vet just wanting to nderstand a little more about what's going on.

:grouphug Pippa :grouphug

:grouphug :grouphug :grouphug

[SquirrelLove]

Oh my! I don't want her to bleed out! What can be done if she is in pain from the eye? It's gone white and I know she can't see. I don't mind looking at the eye but she paws at it and seems just miserable. I don't want her to suffer OR bleed out. Any suggestions? Should I have her put to sleep for her suffering? This is a LAST resort, I do NOT want to lose my darling sweet sweet Pippa Doodle Doo! But if euthanization is best for her? Please tell me your opinion as I value your opinion greatly!

Thank you,
Joanne in Jax

Dr Lightfoot would not remove a dead eye in Lucky, she said surgery is very diffecult, DrLightfoot is top surgeon..
she said there is a artery on the back of the eye ball that once cut can cause major bleed out. I was also told it's best to let the eye die with ABs..if it is going to die , this gives the body time to heal that artery naturallly.
deep breaths...
hugs Joanne
kisses to your baby.

I have seen Puffs eye and it's scarey, but as lili shared, he is fine and happy.

[stosh2010]

Just found this thread. I hope the prognosis is less traumatic and easier on Pippa then first reported.
I pray --every morning-- and give thanks for the continued health of my TWO fuzz-heads.
>>>>>>>>>Prayers going out to you both.

[lilidukes]

If the eye ball is dry it needs to be moistened dryness will cause more irritation. Jackie does have a lot of info from Dr Lightfoot. Many factors to be considered. Wish I could help you more. :grouphug

[SquirrelLove]

Thank you so much, I'm leaving in about 4 hours to get to her vet before sunrise as it is first come first served, I'll tell Pippa all the good wishes :-)

Hugs, super big hugs to everyone!
Joanne in Jax

Just found this thread. I hope the prognosis is less traumatic and easier on Pippa then first reported.
I pray --every morning-- and give thanks for the continued health of my TWO fuzz-heads.
>>>>>>>>>Prayers going out to you both.

[Jackie in Tampa]

hugs..no way does she need to be PTS, no!
Joann, If you send me several pics of her eye, I will forward them to DrLightfoots tech Amy....we can at least see what a visual exam can advise. DrL and Amy will should be in the office today, but I am not sure 100% of their schedules.

GET THAT MEDICINE IN HER...force her, she needs it.
Fv or HHBs should be in her diet..she should be healthy, her tummy should be full using metacam. Keep her hydrated is a must.
Tramadol and metacam can ulcerate an empty belly.
metacam can damage an unhydrated liver.
Not trying to scare you, however you should know how to approuch these meds.

How do you know she is pain, what is she presenting?

400 grams is a decent weight if surgery is needed, but from the knowledge I have, not tremendous amounts, I have never seen where an eye had to be removed, if it is actually dying, it will and a healthy sq on ABs will be able to overcome the trauma and live as long as any other sq.
Many NRs are due to visual issues.

my email is thecrazysquirrellady@gmail.com for sending several pics, I will forward them as soon as I get them.
I will forward any response I get to you immediately..
I understand your fear:grouphug

NO EUTHANASIA....we'll get thru this:grouphug

:Love_Icon Pippa and Jo:Love_Icon

[SquirrelLove]

Jackie I don't have a camera right now because another squirrel ate the lens! I will look for a camera, or maybe a phone will take a decent picture. But I'll work on it.
Thank you for your wisdom, I appreciate it a LOT!
Joanne
PS: She is pawing at the eye and rubbing at it a lot. Since taking her to Gainesville she hasn't gotten out of her cube (Bed) in over 30 hours or so except for one time where I had to pull her out - she was pissed about that by the way. I was able to give her some scratchies and love and she wanted right back in her cube and cage. I don't know if she's getting up in the night to drink water or not, but she did take a pecan (Shelled because her teeth are malaccluded too, poor girl got hit with multiple problems)

Oh the worry this sweetie causes me!!!
(HUGS)

[Jackie in Tampa]

it's crucial that you exam her sevral times a day...
hydration is very very important, I cannot stress it enough.
take her cube away is she will not allow you to mess with her.. use lots of fluffy fleece on the floor of her cage so she can hide, but do not let her hole up...
Feed her her favorite foods, she needs good gut flora too..YOGURT!
Give her anything she likes right now.

If she'll drink water from a syringe and eat, leave her cube..but allowing her to become depressed is not allowed...
keep her teeth with a comfy length,,,,,
do you clip her teeth? are we sure we are not dealing with odontoma... we need a pic...borrow a camera...odontomas can put pressure in the head, they are teeth root tumors, can be created by improper clippings.
I swear I am not trying to scare you, just knowing the possibilities may allow better diagnosis faster..
does she have any nasal drainage or sniffles or sneezes?

Get a camera...go buy a new one..borrow one..pawn shop it if you have to..
I sold all my jewelry and fred sold an amp to make ends meet..
no regrets..
I will be thinking about her until we have somethng concrete..hugs to you both.

[SquirrelLove]

Jacki, when I get her out of her cube she just hangs her head down with the ear near the affected eye held back like she's mad (But not mad at the time). I have no friends AT ALL in Florida. And I don't know anyone because I am a recluse without a job. I am doing what I can to get a pic tho....

[Jackie in Tampa]

Jackie is it possible for me to call you, or you to call me? I have long distance included in my phone plan if you don't. I think it would be easier to get all the facts if we didn't have to wait for one of us to read everything here :-)

Joanne in Jax
we can, I have to feed three sqs and a pssie then I will call..
I have your number, now edit and delete it so you don't have the avon lady calling:rotfl

[SquirrelLove]

Lol, I can't delete my number on your message, maybe it will disappear after I post this but I deleted my earlier post with the number. Of course Avon is so pretty.... (Joking I can't afford Avon with Pippa and my other squirrel's needs!

THANK YOU!
Joanne :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou

[SquirrelLove]

Jackie, I'm running to another vet to get another opinion so I may not be able to answer my phone while driving. I'll give you a call back when I can - just leave a message so I know it's you pretty please :-)

Thanks again,
Joanne

[fire-eyez]

Where in Florida are u

[Jackie in Tampa]

nadine, she is in Jax

:wave123 I am so happy for you sweet girl, life changing things are happening all around you! Most excellant!!!!:alright.gif :jump

[fire-eyez]

nadine, she is in Jax

:wave123 I am so happy for you sweet girl, life changing things are happening all around you! Most excellant!!!!:alright.gif :jump


Thanks Jackie :)..... Lol caught the locating in her signature notw lol ..darn I wish i was closer to help sorry prayers are being sent from me and my fuzzers to you and your baby

[SquirrelLove]

Pippa was suffering greatly so I took her to a different vet locally that said they would take care of her for less, only $150. plus any meds and office visit. I couldn't let her suffer any longer so I took her in and they are performing the surgery around 1:00 pm. PLEASE cross your fingers that she makes this out alive and lives a healthier pain free life. She's a little angel sent from Heaven and the light of my life. I will die without this sweet girl. It's silly to some I suppose that she has me wrapped around her snaggled little teeth and her bushy little tail, but I'm okay with people thinking I'm nuts lol. There is a possibility of her dying, so that is my greatest concern now so prayers are definitely needed / wanted for her.

Hugs to all that are helping and sending good vibes, prayers and all the great information!
Joanne in Jacksonville FL. :thankyou :grouphug :thankyou

[Jackie in Tampa]

:grouphug :grouphug :grouphug
sending our all to her:Love_Icon

[gs1]

:grouphug

[lilidukes]

:grouphug :grouphug Pippa :grouphug :grouphug

[astra]

:grouphug :grouphug :grouphug :grouphug :grouphug

[Jackie in Tampa]

please let us know joanne, we worry too:grouphug

[island rehabber]

In keeping with our new policy on donations, raffles, fundraisers etc., Administration requests that everyone who would like to donate to help Pippa is welcome to donate thru the Fund to her ongoing care. :thumbsup

[SquirrelLove]

PIPPA is HOME! Hip Hip HURRAY! She survived the eye surgery and we discovered that a growth that had started in the center of the eye was the problem. Hard white tissue (I watched as they opened up the eye after it was removed so seen with my own eyes) was in the center growing and had spread to behind the eyeball causing great swelling and pain. It was a sizeable amount that was removed from behind the eyeball too! She's home and recovering and I thought she would sleep as she slept for over 30 hours before the surgery but now she's alert (Not even an hour later) and moving and climbing and seems happier than she has in over 4 days! Thank you for your thoughts and prayers and other acts of kindness. I am attaching a very poor picture of her as I had to use a cheap phone to take the picture, my camera was chewed on by another NR I have in the house that just loves mischief hehe! But having squirrels is worth losing a few items every now and again, they bring such joy! THANK YOU TO EVERYONE!!!! I can't stress enough how thankful I am for the prayers, info, advice, and the 2 donations that went toward her bill :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou
Joanne in Jax :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou
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[island rehabber]

That's great, Joanne! Best wishes for Pippa's complete recovery. Maybe you can make her a little eye patch and she can be Pippa, the Pirate Princess :crazy

[JLM27]

Was this a benign growth, or didn't they say? Does this kind of thing happen to just squirrels or to other small mammals as well?

That's terrific news! Please let us know the amount of the vet bill so we know how much has to be raised.

[Nancy in New York]

Try to restrain her from climbing for a while, she may be wobbly and unstable with being put out....we don't want any accidents happening.
Welcome home Pippa...:Love_Icon

[SquirrelLove]

Crap, she just ripped all her stitches out, heading back to vet! Bleeding now, please say another prayer!

[Sweet Simon's Mommy]

:grouphug sounds like glue would be better.

[lilidukes]

Great news and oops news too.:grouphug

[SquirrelLove]

Back from the vet again, and she (Vet) made a home made cone for her. Before we made it home she'd gotten that cone off. Now she's working on those stitches again..... she's like a human child, never lets me stop worrying about her. I will keep a close eye on her. Might have to go back yet again and yet more $$$ Gawd, she's going to be the death of me! But she's worth it <3

[stosh2010]

Would Rescue Remedy help to calm Pippa-- and keep her from scratching at her stitches ??

Was the growth, that was removed, benign?

[Nancy in New York]

Resized and made a little lighter...:D
How old is Pippa?
Do you have a weight on her?
She looks a little slim, but then again, I may be used to the larger greys up North....:dono
Does she have a squirrel box with tons of fleece,
you know how much I love fleece.....:D

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/nancym518/TSB%20photos/Pippa20after20eye20removal.jpg

[Orphan Mom]

Back from the vet again, and she (Vet) made a home made cone for her. Before we made it home she'd gotten that cone off. Now she's working on those stitches again..... she's like a human child, never lets me stop worrying about her. I will keep a close eye on her. Might have to go back yet again and yet more $$$ Gawd, she's going to be the death of me! But she's worth it <3

How about getting some gauze and medical tape and taping up those little hands? Think moms' remedies for keeping kids from scratching those chicken pox.

Rescue Remedy sounds like a good idea. Also Ibuprophen would probably ease her discomfort & might chill her out a little.

[JLM27]

She needs that cone on. Somewhere we have directions for making a cone??? Senior members???? Does anyone remember where it is?

[SquirrelLove]

Whew, very long LONG few days with no sleep yet. I've tried to sleep with no luck due to worry. Tonight will probably be similar.

However Pippa is resting and because (I think Miss Jackie said) someone said to take her cube down so I can get to her if needed and keep an eye on her she doesn't have a cube in her cage right now. She does have a ton of fleece on the bottom of her cage and I made her a hammock that I can easily get her out of if she needs to get to the vet quickly. There is extra fleece in the hammock and she was happy to have at least that put back in her cage.

She drank a little water and ate a few pecans, not much but it's a good sign I think.

I don't dare put any tape on her eye area in case she's allergic to it or it pulls on the stitches even worse if she paws at it. Because she's calmed down quite a bit since putting a hammock in her cage I think she might do okay.

As for the weight she is 1 yr old ( give or take a few weeks I think) and weighs 400 g. She's not bony but not fat either. I think now that she's not going to be so miserable she might put on more weight. She's given anything she wants (That is good for her) and once in awhile a few treats like pecans that are not as good for her. But each day she has veggies with a tad bit of fruit, and at least one small pecan a day. Because she has a malocclusion she has a hard time eating anything too hard.

Thank you again everyone for your concern, well wishes and wow, everything else. I hope this can soon be moved to the SUCCESS area :-) BTW, thank you for resizing the photo! I was so tired I didn't even try. Sorry about that.

Hugs, Joanne in Jax :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou

[Twi_prime]

:grouphug sounds like glue would be better.

I like this idea, if there's anymore trouble with her ripping out the stitches. Anyone know of anything that would make it out of the question? 'Course, maybe tape has to accompany glue at first? I don't know.

Good luck Joanne and Pippa.

[SammysMom]

Do I remember seeing somewhere on the board that a paper bathroom size cup can be used as a cone? :thinking

[stosh2010]

Whew, very long LONG few days with no sleep yet. I've tried to sleep with no luck due to worry. Tonight will probably be similarpraying for a restful day for you BOTH....

[Jackie in Tampa]

http://ratballs.com/RatTails/Tails084.html

pippa get well sweet girl

[SquirrelLove]

Pippa peeked down from her hammock this morning and I got to see her left side of the face where the eye was removed and it looks horrible but the fact that she's poking her head up and showing some interest in what I'm doing is great! I'm still worried as heck, hoping and praying for her comfort and well being is all I am doing right now :-)

Thank you again for all your support,
Joanne in Jax and Pippa too

[SquirrelLove]

Miss Jackie, the vet made her a nice cone with tape around it for comfort by her neck etc, and it was on super snug when I picked up Pippa. It didn't break or come apart but she managed to pull it off. Thank you for the link to Ratballs, I thought it was just a signature at first and then thought I should click on it - it was a funny sounding name by the way.... and I loved visiting that page! Thank you!

[SquirrelLove]

A little more than 24 hours post OP and she's not doing too well. She slept all day and just 5 minutes ago she came out of her cage and climbed up the curtain by the cage and is sitting up there with her good eye facing out. I reached up and gave her a pecan and a piece of avocado which she ate both but I haven't seen her drink any water but then maybe she did when I wasn't looking. She's always been a late sleeper til about 9:am while my other squirrels are up at the crack of dawn. She has learned that I sit here around 10 pm and stays up late to sit on my shoulder or in my shirt. She hasn't done that in a week or more since she started feeling so ill but maybe again soon. I do miss my squirrel loving before I hit the hay at night :-)

Off to make supper , hagd :-)

[Nancy in New York]

Hydration is so important. Does she use a water bottle? If so mark the bottle every time you fill it, and see how much she is drinking.
Poor little Pippa....:Love_Icon

[Jackie in Tampa]

all my keepers with the exception of Rocky , view the syringe as love..
maybe try giving her water thru a syringe.
I would expect her to be recovering for a few days, not feeling herself..
poor Pippa...get well sweet girl.
thank you Joann for loving her and getting her help.

[stosh2010]

I haven't seen her drink any water The sweetness of Home-made pedialyte is usually a HIT with squirrels needing hydration...
Is that something that Pippa should be drinking at this point ?

[SquirrelLove]

After my last post she decided to go down to the floor and check things out around her cage area. Usually she rips through the bedroom jumping and playing but today she only hung out by my feet where I sit at my computer by her cage. I thought she was looking for scraps of nuts that might have fallen but I forgot that my oven mitt was on the floor because it had fallen there when I was trying to get ahold of her without getting scratched when she was mad at me lol! She was licking the oven mitt like it had something good on it! I got her fresh food but no... she wanted the oven mitt. She didn't chew on it or anything, just licked it. Then she went to her water bottle and had a drink so she's eating and drinking now - just not a lot. And the fact that she found interest in something other than sleeping or sitting up high away from me was something to feel good about I think. It's a small step but I'll take any step forward. Heck even falling on your face is still moving forward eh? She also has a bowl of water in her cage so she can choose either one :-)
:wahoo

[SquirrelLove]

Pippa came out for a visit for about 10 minutes and had some water today, that was nice. I checked on her a few minutes ago and she's sleeping and isn't interested in food or coming out so I shall let her rest. No worse is a nice thing! I sure love my sweet Pippa Doodle Doo!

[patjones]

Keeping up with your baby hope there is improvement every day

[SquirrelLove]

Thank you for checking PatJones! She's doing very well today! She came out and ran lickety split all over the house, has played till I wanted to drop lol, and is almost back to her old self. Her stitches come out Monday so I'm a little worried about that, but only because I know she'll be mad at me again. But hopefully she will feel even better :-)

Have a great day!
Joanne in Jax

[HRT4SQRLS]

This is just the BEST news!! So happy for you both. tinfoil Pippa's BACK!

[SquirrelLove]

GROSS! I had to take Pippa in today to get her stitches removed. Her eye socket had swollen and I knew it was getting infected. So when they removed the stitches a lot of pus came oozing out. Ughh, nasty! The socket is now open and red and just plain gross. Pippa is NOT happy with me either. They trimmed her teeth again, that's good because she hates going to the vet, just HATES it! So anyway, no antibiotics were prescribed except neosporin around the eye if she scratches at it. Hopefully she'll be on the upward mend.

Joanne in Jax

[Sweet Simon's Mommy]

well at least she cant pull them out any more right:rotfl hope you both feel better soon with out to much more grossness.

[SquirrelLove]

I wish it wasn't a big gaping open socket - ughhh! Poor baby!

[gs1]

:grouphug hopefully it's easier to heal ...fresh air etc....

[HRT4SQRLS]

NO ANTIBIOTICS?????????Pus in eye socket.....REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!:thinking :thinking :thinking :thinking:dono

[Orphan Mom]

NO ANTIBIOTICS?????????Pus in eye socket.....REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!:thinking :thinking :thinking :thinking:dono

:yeahthat

[HRT4SQRLS]

Sorry, It's me again. An eye socket with pus is WAY too close to the brain for comfort. The surgery has been done--the problem has been removed--why take a chance that it will heal on its own. A few dollars worth of antibiotics is just a little insurance that the infection will be contained. If the doc is wrong and the infection continues the outcome could be bad. (Just my opinion)

[Nancy in New York]

Sorry, It's me again. An eye socket with pus is WAY too close to the brain for comfort. The surgery has been done--the problem has been removed--why take a chance that it will heal on its own. A few dollars worth of antibiotics is just a little insurance that the infection will be contained. If the doc is wrong and the infection continues the outcome could be bad. (Just my opinion)
I thought the exact same thing....what is the point of that?
I would contact that vet asap, just so he can explain his/her thinking....:shakehead

[SquirrelLove]

I have Amoxicill on hand (Might have spelled that wrong) how much should I give a 400g squirrel (12 ounces) ? I don't want to over medicate but I've been thinking she really should have some antibiotics too. After all this torture it would be a shame to lose her now. She's so full of life when she is well.

Thank you,
Joanne in Jax (PS, the Amoxacill was prescribed by a vet for one of my squirrels, maybe even Pippa - can't remember so it was originally for a squirrel)

[Nancy in New York]

I have Amoxicill on hand (Might have spelled that wrong) how much should I give a 400g squirrel (12 ounces) ? I don't want to over medicate but I've been thinking she really should have some antibiotics too. After all this torture it would be a shame to lose her now. She's so full of life when she is well.

Thank you,
Joanne in Jax (PS, the Amoxacill was prescribed by a vet for one of my squirrels, maybe even Pippa - can't remember so it was originally for a squirrel)

I think that you should call your vet and express your concern. If you don't know about the Amox. it could even be expired, is this the liquid that you keep in the refrig.?....they have a shorter life span.
Try to get something today. I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind not giving an antibiotic when they saw pus....:dono

[patjones]

How is she acting still active and playing or is she back to not feeling good. I was thinking the same thing spend a fortune on surgery and then not back it up with a couple of bucks worth of antibiotics maybe they just overlooked the meds

[Kelly Brady]

Hi Joanne,:wave123

Iv'e been keeping up with Pippas thread.:grouphug

I know all Dr.'s are different and don't want to interfere too much here, but when Richard had his Teeth surgery just a few weeks ago, Dr. L said any time we do surgery and especially in the head we must run a 7 day course of ab's.

She said he may reject food and may reject fluids but make sure he gets his ab's twice a day. If he spits it out, re-do until it goes in. Could be because it is his mouth area but I am thinking same thing as others, I would call the vet and request ab's and see what they say.

Keep smiling girl. Your doing great:D

[SquirrelLove]

I thought I had this set up to send me an email when someone replied to a message here but I guess not. It's a little too late to call the vet now, but I know the Amoxacill isn't a year old yet. Maybe 6 months old. I guess I'll have to guess on the dose because no one has replied on about how much to give her. I'll start with a small dose as her eye is swelling again. If anyone has an idea on how much to give her please let me know. She's 400g (12 ounces) and a year old.

Thanks :-)
Joanne in Jax

[SquirrelLove]

Thank you Anne Miller! Anne called me tonight and offered some AB for Pippa's eye and I'll go and pick it up tomorrow morning sometime :-)

:thankyou :thankyou :thankyou
Joanne in Jax