Baby #2, Brought In By The Cat.

[babysquirrelchip]

Today I received a phone call pleading for me to take a baby squirrel that the family's cat had brought in this morning. They claimed that he had been bleeding a little bit (not sure where, could only find a possible area by his ear but is so small that it cannot be seen in a picture). He has been on Pedialyte all day, according to the family. When I brought him home, roughly at 7:30PM (it is now 7:51), we fed him 2 ccs of FV (1 part FV, 3 parts water). He peed clearly afterwards, no poop. His front left paw has barely any movement, along with the rest of him. He has been very inactive, he looks around four-five weeks old (about Chip's size, whose eyes are open). Currently, we have him with Chip in his box with the heating pad and fleece. His eyes are not open yet, but they look as though they might open in a day or two. Any advice??? He's looking very lethargic, but not making any clicking noise. He IS making a sort of whimpering noise, though.. What should I do? :dono
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In the last one, Chip is on the left (barely could sit still!), and the new one is on the right... :/

[JLM27]

Give him antibiotics asap. Where was the bite mark?

[CritterMom]

Do you have any antibiotics? Baytril (animal), Cipro (human med) - anything like that? Are you near any of our GA rehabbers who might have some? Friends, relatives? A cat caught baby with blood on him especially needs antibiotics just as soon as possible.

Meantime, make sure he is hydrated (I would give several pedialyte feedings) and obviously, first, make sure he is warm.

[babysquirrelchip]

Give him antibiotics asap. Where was the bite mark?

What antibiotics should he be on? Doses?

The bite mark appeared to be near the left ear.

[CritterMom]

Best bet: Baytril or Cipro. What do you have access to?

[babysquirrelchip]

Do you have any antibiotics? Baytril (animal), Cipro (human med) - anything like that? Are you near any of our GA rehabbers who might have some? Friends, relatives? A cat caught baby with blood on him especially needs antibiotics just as soon as possible.

Meantime, make sure he is hydrated (I would give several pedialyte feedings) and obviously, first, make sure he is warm.

I've got Baytril. He's had a lot of Pedialyte, looks hydrated, has had 2 ccs of FV/water. Baytril has been used on my other baby, who had pneumonia from the previous caretaker- which I still have mixed up.. I could give him .05 cc of Baytril? He is warm, I already made sure of that. I know the basics, I have already been raising Chip.

[CritterMom]

If he is the same weight as Chip I would start the antibiotics right away. Cat saliva is deadly - pasturella if my memory serves... How fresh is the med?

[babysquirrelchip]

If he is the same weight as Chip I would start the antibiotics right away. Cat saliva is deadly - pasturella if my memory serves... How fresh is the med?

The medicine is good until 2013, I'll go mix up some more from a new caplet (the caplets were used for my cat, Max, but I've been told by TSB to mix it with 2ML water to dilute).

[babysquirrelchip]

I put him on .05 baytril. Is that okay?

[CritterMom]

If he is the same weight as Chip and that was his dosage, yes. They LOOK about the same size in the pic. Jackie dosed it for you, right?

[babysquirrelchip]

If he is the same weight as Chip and that was his dosage, yes. They LOOK about the same size in the pic. Jackie dosed it for you, right?

They are the same size. Jackie dosed it.

[CritterMom]

Then this is a very lucky little squirrel, because this is his very best chance. Give him the meds - just like you did Chip. It will help that he has a little "brother" to snuggle with. You know the rest - dark, nice and warm, quiet.

[Sweet Simon's Mommy]

So glad you have neighbors that would call you to help tinfoil :thumbsup
Good for them and good for you!!!
Hang in there baby ...

[babysquirrelchip]

Then this is a very lucky little squirrel, because this is his very best chance. Give him the meds - just like you did Chip. It will help that he has a little "brother" to snuggle with. You know the rest - dark, nice and warm, quiet.

I gave him .05 ccs, I hope he's okay. Chip is snuggling with him :Love_Icon

[babysquirrelchip]

So glad you have neighbors that would call you to help tinfoil :thumbsup
Good for them and good for you!!!
Hang in there baby ...

I am really hoping he pulls through.. He seems very weak and in pain.. His whimpering sounds so very sad.

[CritterMom]

You can give infant ibuprophen for pain if you do not have any veterinarin pain meds like metacam or tramadol. If you have his weight I can give you the dose.

I hope he does not have internal issues that can't be seen. Poor baby...

[babysquirrelchip]

You can give infant ibuprophen for pain if you do not have any veterinarin pain meds like metacam or tramadol. If you have his weight I can give you the dose.

I hope he does not have internal issues that can't be seen. Poor baby...

He looks around 60 grams, I'm awaiting a gram scale, but that's how much Chip is to my knowledge (that's what he was dosed by).

[babysquirrelchip]

You can give infant ibuprophen for pain if you do not have any veterinarin pain meds like metacam or tramadol. If you have his weight I can give you the dose.

I hope he does not have internal issues that can't be seen. Poor baby...

He looks around 60 grams, I'm awaiting a gram scale, but that's how much Chip is to my knowledge (that's what he was dosed by).

-I have animal amoxi?

[CritterMom]

.02cc every 4 hours as needed.

This dosage is for the INFANT ibuprophen.

If all you can find is CHILDRENS ibuprophen, it is half as strong as the infant, so you would have to double the dose. Yes I know this does not make sense at first, but the infant is more concentrated so you can give them less total volume, where children are easier to give it to and the total amount can be larger. I actually called their hotline trying to wrap my head around that one!

[babysquirrelchip]

.02cc every 4 hours as needed.

This dosage is for the INFANT ibuprophen.

If all you can find is CHILDRENS ibuprophen, it is half as strong as the infant, so you would have to double the dose. Yes I know this does not make sense at first, but the infant is more concentrated so you can give them less total volume, where children are easier to give it to and the total amount can be larger. I actually called their hotline trying to wrap my head around that one!

I don't know if I have any infant/children's ibuprophen? I only have normal ibuprophen & amoxi & some other medicines..

[CritterMom]

The adult is way too strong. The infant stuff is a liquid that is sweet tasting so they usually take it no problem. The Baytril is good - very strong stuff.

[psychobird]

Something looks weird to me with the way he is holding his back end,
Is it possible he has trauma back there? I hope I am wrong

[babysquirrelchip]

Something looks weird to me with the way he is holding his back end,
Is it possible he has trauma back there? I hope I am wrong

He isn't moving much.. but it might have been the way we laid him down for the picture..

[babysquirrelchip]

He is now on .02 infant ibuprofen

[Mrs Skul]

:wave123 Babysquirrelchip
I would give this Baby the Antibiotic 2 times a day. It is best to Double the dose. (Buy hitting the Infection hard) Do it the first 24 hr, then get him back to his 2 times a day. :thinking
Be sure to give the Yogurt.
You both are in my Prayers. Come On Little Angel Baby You need to Fight.:Love_Icon
CM918
PS
He is Probably just hurting so bad and still in Shock from the attack. In 24 hr, You should see a little progress.
Poor Little Baby. :grouphug
The Best thing for him is Rest, Warm, Formula, and to be Loved. :Love_Icon
Being able to Cuddle up with Little Chippy. That will help a lot. :thumbsup3

[psychobird]

Have u tried the pinch test on his toes? Just worried he has spinal trauma and is suffering, ibuprofen won't touch that kind of pain

[Mrs Skul]

:thinking :dono :thinking
Psychobird Isn't it the Metacam that has the Anti-Inflammatory in it?
BabySquirrelChippy Can you get a hold of some Metacam??? :thinking

[Jackie in Tampa]

weird jodi, but to me it's his front arm that looks swollen..
but my monitor and my eyes are not the best.
does anyone see swollen fronta arm?

[babysquirrelchip]

:thinking :dono :thinking
Psychobird Isn't it the Metacam that has the Anti-Inflammatory in it?
BabySquirrelChippy Can you get a hold of some Metacam??? :thinking


I have some prednisone.. how about that?

[psychobird]

Mbe, so hard to see, so hard to see

Ugh, poor little guy

[psychobird]

Do u have a vet that can see him in the morning? Or a Rehabber
People who let thier cats outside piss me off!
I wouldn't throw pred at him yet, especially if your not sure what is goin on yet
If he has any internal bleeding going on it can make him bleed out

[psychobird]

Keep goin with what your doin, feeding and hydrating
May want to give him a cc or 2 of water in-between feedings
Being very gentle with him as to not move any possible breaks till he can be seen

[babysquirrelchip]

Do u have a vet that can see him in the morning? Or a Rehabber
People who let thier cats outside piss me off!
I wouldn't throw pred at him yet, especially if your not sure what is goin on yet
If he has any internal bleeding going on it can make him bleed out

Best vet in the area will be seeing him in the morning if that is what you believe is right? If he's there. He might be off Wednesdays.

[psychobird]

Yes, metacam/meloxicam but shouldn't be used in infants unless absolutely necessary
Stronger than ibuprofen for pain and inflamation

[JLM27]

I agree with Jackie. right front arm.

[psychobird]

If you have a vet that would be willing to check him over that would be great, it's so hard to tell from pics whats going on, my gut is saying he's in trouble, the whimpering, the lethagy worries me
Hopefully once you stabilize him he will perk up, he could still be shocky from his attack, I hope little guy proves me wrong!!

[Jackie in Tampa]

pale gums..
rub log cabin syrup, karo or molasses on his gums, just a wee dab on your pinky in his mouth or syringe him a little sugar water, NO SALT, no more pedi,
the dilute FV is ideal:thumbsup
this will keep glycemic load up
keep him calm and still if possible...
make sure he does not get too hot, but don't let him chill either..
the heating pad should be creating a barely warm spot...

[babysquirrelchip]

pale gums..
rub log cabin syrup, karo or molasses on his gums, just a wee dab on your pinky in his mouth or syringe him a little sugar water, NO SALT, no more pedi,
the dilute FV is ideal:thumbsup
this will keep glycemic load up
keep him calm and still if possible...
make sure he does not get too hot, but don't let him chill either..
the heating pad should be creating a barely warm spot...

He's not moving very much as it is.. He barely will move.. :/
I just gave him some diluted FV.. The heating pad is one you set the temp, his is around 110. Warm. What is the pinch test on his toes? I don't know if it'd work, he's not moving anything really.

[babysquirrelchip]

:wave123 Babysquirrelchip
I would give this Baby the Antibiotic 2 times a day. It is best to Double the dose. (Buy hitting the Infection hard) Do it the first 24 hr, then get him back to his 2 times a day. :thinking
Be sure to give the Yogurt.
You both are in my Prayers. Come On Little Angel Baby You need to Fight.:Love_Icon
CM918
PS
He is Probably just hurting so bad and still in Shock from the attack. In 24 hr, You should see a little progress.
Poor Little Baby. :grouphug
The Best thing for him is Rest, Warm, Formula, and to be Loved. :Love_Icon
Being able to Cuddle up with Little Chippy. That will help a lot. :thumbsup3

Should I change his dose to .1 cc then on the baytril? Or .04 on the ibuprofen?

[redwuff]

:grouphug prayers:grouphug

[psychobird]

Pinch test is when you pinch a toe or center of the foot to see if they respond to the pain by flinching and pulling away, not a fool proof test
Most of the time they respond by pinching not so hard
If they don't I pinch real hard with my thumb nail right on the bone
When they don't respond to that it means the pain message isn't traveling up the spine to the brain
Is he nursing good? If he is strong enough to swallow he should feel that pinch

[psychobird]

Backfoot

[psychobird]

Is he peeing good when potty him?

[babysquirrelchip]

Is he peeing good when potty him?

He is peeing well..
He's not eating WELL, but he's eating maybe 1 1/2-2ccs every 3 hours.. so far.

[babysquirrelchip]

Pinch test is when you pinch a toe or center of the foot to see if they respond to the pain by flinching and pulling away, not a fool proof test
Most of the time they respond by pinching not so hard
If they don't I pinch real hard with my thumb nail right on the bone
When they don't respond to that it means the pain message isn't traveling up the spine to the brain
Is he nursing good? If he is strong enough to swallow he should feel that pinch

He responded to it.

[Sweet Simon's Mommy]

something in him is better than nothing, the nipple isnt like Mamma and may take him a few times to get the hang of it

[rocky63]

Prayers for a speedy recovery little one :grouphug

[psychobird]

Good on the pee, if he doesn't want to take much at once, can try to get him to drink 2cc's every couple of hours with diluted formula
Getting late I hope u can stay up late and get up early
I'm praying he makes it through the night
Getting him nice and hydrated will help him more than anything right now
Did you take a peek at the gums like Jackie said?
It's so upsetting when they are so weak, thank you for taking such good care of him
I'm not sure about the double dosing, only drug I usually do that with is the metacam
Maybe skull will come back on and advise further on that
Please keep us updated, crossing my fingers and praying for the little one

[psychobird]

Oh good! That's a relief
Now does his front leg different than the other one? Doesn't feel different from the other?

[psychobird]

Whoa! I'm getting tired, hopefully you get the gist of my last post
*YAAAWN**

[babysquirrelchip]

Good on the pee, if he doesn't want to take much at once, can try to get him to drink 2cc's every couple of hours with diluted formula
Getting late I hope u can stay up late and get up early
I'm praying he makes it through the night
Getting him nice and hydrated will help him more than anything right now
Did you take a peek at the gums like Jackie said?
It's so upsetting when they are so weak, thank you for taking such good care of him
I'm not sure about the double dosing, only drug I usually do that with is the metacam
Maybe skull will come back on and advise further on that
Please keep us updated, crossing my fingers and praying for the little one
I have a sister who will be awake while I am asleep. We have him 24/7 care until the vet tomorrow. I'm at school from 11-2:45, only time he will be alone.

[Mrs Skul]

Should I change his dose to .1 cc then on the baytril? Or .04 on the ibuprofen?

BabySquirrelChippy
.1 of Baytril 2 times a day The first 24 hr. (That is about 5 tiny drops.) Then go back to the .05
Now CriterMom Suggested .02cc every 4 hours as needed.
This dosage is for the INFANT Ibuprofen.
Good Luck. :grouphug

[babysquirrelchip]

Baby squirrel visited the vet (with Chip). Chip is great. Baby squirrel#2 (now Dale Jr.), seems to have no broken limbs or any other issues. Vet said that he gave Dale hydrating fluids and to continue with the antibiotics. :thankyou

[Mrs Skul]

:alright.gif That is Great News! :wahoo

[Nancy in New York]

Baby squirrel visited the vet (with Chip). Chip is great. Baby squirrel#2 (now Dale Jr.), seems to have no broken limbs or any other issues. Vet said that he gave Dale hydrating fluids and to continue with the antibiotics. :thankyou
:alright.gif :alright.gif :alright.gif

[babysquirrelchip]

Only issue is I'm having trouble getting him to eat :/

[CritterMom]

He may not be completely rehydrated - I know the finders were giving it to him but if he was on the ground for a while before the cat got him, it will take a while to accomplish that.

You might also want to try adding a blob of vanilla or banana yogurt (I love Stoneyfield Yobaby because is is super digestible and is also full fat, which they need) to his formula. The probiotics will help his tummy and the flavor may make that FV a little tastier. I am so glad he is hanging in there! And I am extra glad that you had baytril!

[psychobird]

agreed, it can take them a while to catch on how to nurse too, give it a few days
has he perked up at all??

[babysquirrelchip]

He has still been pretty lethargic.. He has moved around a little more, but not much..
How he's crawling around is still scaring me. Should I try to get a video of his movements??
He has hydration fluids in him- the vet injected some into him.
I'm glad he made it through the night, we haven't left his side- except for when I was at school from noon-2:45.
Someone has always been there to watch him/take care of him at all times except for during school.

[CritterMom]

He has still been pretty lethargic.. He has moved around a little more, but not much..
How he's crawling around is still scaring me. Should I try to get a video of his movements??
He has hydration fluids in him- the vet injected some into him.
I'm glad he made it through the night, we haven't left his side- except for when I was at school from noon-2:45.
Someone has always been there to watch him/take care of him at all times except for during school.

Video would be great. I hope he doesn't have internal injuries from the cat...

[babysquirrelchip]

Video would be great. I hope he doesn't have internal injuries from the cat...

It's really sad watching him crawl around.. D:
I'll try to get a video of it soon.

[babysquirrelchip]

Here he is..
Please watch it.. Maybe it will help with determining what is wrong with him..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Mu51P0-8A

[redwuff]

Wow, he is troubled...wish we knew why. You and Dale Jr are in my thoughts and prayers

Trysh

[babysquirrelchip]

Wow, he is troubled...wish we knew why. You and Dale Jr are in my thoughts and prayers

Trysh

Thank you :grouphug

[lilidukes]

Dale looks to me to be favoring and leaning to the left. Might be some neuro issues here. He did curl the tail over his back always a good thing there.

Personally I would keep him warm and quiet for now keep offering formula. Every little drop counts. Go slowly with him.

Just so you know internal injuries will appear to look like a dark bruise on the under belly.

Best wishes for little Dale :grouphug

[babysquirrelchip]

Dale looks to me to be favoring and leaning to the left. Might be some neuro issues here. He did curl the tail over his back always a good thing there.

Personally I would keep him warm and quiet for now keep offering formula. Every little drop counts. Go slowly with him.

Just so you know internal injuries will appear to look like a dark bruise on the under belly.

Best wishes for little Dale :grouphug

He's eating a lot now, which is good. We've given him about 4 ccs in one sitting.
Thank you. :grouphug

[CritterMom]

It is tough to tell - he looks very weak and sick and like he hurts. Did you get any infant ibuprophen? I really would add that in, like tonight. Soothing pain can help so much.

I echo lilidukes keeping him warm and quiet and fed. Keep an eye on little Chip - if he gets too rambunctuous, you may need to split them up temporarily. I love the idea of him having someone to hold onto, though - that is really beneficial, but you are observing what is happening and will have to make that decision.

For now I would like to see him getting meds, food, and sleep and that is it. Hopefully his little body can heal.

[babysquirrelchip]

It is tough to tell - he looks very weak and sick and like he hurts. Did you get any infant ibuprophen? I really would add that in, like tonight. Soothing pain can help so much.

I echo lilidukes keeping him warm and quiet and fed. Keep an eye on little Chip - if he gets too rambunctuous, you may need to split them up temporarily. I love the idea of him having someone to hold onto, though - that is really beneficial, but you are observing what is happening and will have to make that decision.

For now I would like to see him getting meds, food, and sleep and that is it. Hopefully his little body can heal.

He has been on infant ibuprofen since last night every four hours. Chip kept wanting to play with him, so I separated them a little while ago.

[CritterMom]

He has been on infant ibuprofen since last night every four hours. Chip kept wanting to play with him, so I separated them a little while ago.

Aw. I hope that Chip will get his chance.

You can make him a rice buddy. Find an old sock and pour either dried, uncooked beans or uncooled rice into it until you have a lump about baby squirrel size and tie it off so the contents don't pour out. Heat it in the microwave (you will have to experiment with how long) until it is about the same warmth as your heating pad and squish it around in your hands for a minute to make sure there are no hot spots. You can also just sit with your hand cupped around him - the warmth and contact are soothing.

Now it is a waiting game. All you can do is provide him with life support and hope his little body will mend if you do. That he is eating better is really good.

[atlantasquirrelgirl]

Limit is mobility. Put him in a small container and try not to handle him more than necessary. What part of Georgia are you in? I'd put him on Metacam to help with the pain.

[babysquirrelchip]

Limit is mobility. Put him in a small container and try not to handle him more than necessary. What part of Georgia are you in? I'd put him on Metacam to help with the pain.

Near Savannah unfortunately. :/
He's in a small area and we have only moved him to feed him. He doesn't move more than he has to as it is.

[psychobird]

I can't tell, kinda looks like an infant that just came in for rehab

[Margie]

Baby # 1 eyes are open thus is more mobile. It doesn't look like # 2's eyes are open, and it will be less likely to want to crawl around. They don't move around much while still in the nest.

[psychobird]

Is he still whimpering? You said he is eating good, how are his poops?

[babysquirrelchip]

Baby # 1 eyes are open thus is more mobile. It doesn't look like # 2's eyes are open, and it will be less likely to want to crawl around. They don't move around much while still in the nest.

Baby #1 was extremely mobile with closed eyes.. #2's around the same age- 2 days til open eyes I believe. His paws look like they're curling under :/

[babysquirrelchip]

Is he still whimpering? You said he is eating good, how are his poops?

He has stopped making noise for the most part, his ears are not as pinned to his head. He has been on his ibuprofen, every four hours I have re-issued the .02 mL dose. He should be out of his pain by now.
He just ate 2 ccs of FV, he had 4 ccs four hours ago.
He's been pooping on his own, refuses to poop for me. But the poops are pellets/not diarrhea. I don't know the color due to them being a few hours old..

[psychobird]

I would give him some time, still recovering from his attack and a big change in diet, and loss of his family
He may feel exposed being out in the open like that, with all the new smells, I'm sure holding still when they fall out of the nest saves their lives until mom can come down n get them

[babysquirrelchip]

I would give him some time, still recovering from his attack and a big change in diet, and loss of his family
He may feel exposed being out in the open like that, with all the new smells, I'm sure holding still when they fall out of the nest saves their lives until mom can come down n get them

He seems to be doing better than before at least.
I feel so bad for him and his separation from home.
At least he has Chip, and poor Chip was lonely, both of his step-brothers passed away due to mistreatment at their former home (where I rescued Chip).
What comforts me is that I saved this baby from dying by getting him immediately from his finders (who did not know what they were doing). They wanted me to pick him up the next morning, but I insisted.
So now Chip has a new brother and Dale has been saved.
:Love_Icon
If Dale makes a remarkable recovery, the two can be released together, which would be a great happy ending.

[psychobird]

It was meant to be, every bb squirrel needs a buddy
I'm sure if anything major was goin on the vet would have found it
Thank you for saving them :)

[babysquirrelchip]

It was meant to be, every bb squirrel needs a buddy
I'm sure if anything major was goin on the vet would have found it
Thank you for saving them :)
How can you resist a poor, defenseless baby squirrel?
They are both in good hands, I promise :Love_Icon

[Mrs Skul]

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:wave123 Hi BabySquirrelChipy
What a couple Little Sweeties.:Love_Icon I'm glad they have each other.
When Chippy is ready to Sleep. Are you Still Putting them together? :thinking
Little Dale Jr Looks so Weak Still. I Praying for these Little Angeles. Good Luck! :grouphug

[babysquirrelchip]

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:wave123 Hi BabySquirrelChipy
What a couple Little Sweeties.:Love_Icon I'm glad they have each other.
When Chippy is ready to Sleep. Are you Still Putting them together? :thinking
Little Dale Jr Looks so Weak Still. I Praying for these Little Angeles. Good Luck! :grouphug

I made them some sock buddies, Chip just doesn't know when to quit with the playing.. Dale needs some rest, I will move Chip in with him when he gets a little stronger. Right now, he's kind of groggy with pain meds & baytril. Thank you! :grouphug

[Nancy in New York]

I made them some sock buddies, Chip just doesn't know when to quit with the playing.. Dale needs some rest, I will move Chip in with him when he gets a little stronger. Right now, he's kind of groggy with pain meds & baytril. Thank you! :grouphug

Are you giving Dale Jr. yogurt?:)

[Sweet Simon's Mommy]

How are the boys today... and how is Mamma holding up?:D

[redwuff]

How is Dale doing this evening? sending love and prayers

[babysquirrelchip]

Sorry for not updating, but my bestfriend arrived in town yesterday and I spent the entire day with him while my sister took care of the babies.
Dale seems to be doing a little better. He's finally eating more!! There is one odd thing about Dale though, one of his front paws curls in underneath his leg.. I find it very unusual.
I weighed both of them, they're both about 75 grams.
Also, I moved them back in together since Chip seems to be doing better about settling down around Dale

[Nancy in New York]

Sorry for not updating, but my bestfriend arrived in town yesterday and I spent the entire day with him while my sister took care of the babies.
Dale seems to be doing a little better. He's finally eating more!! There is one odd thing about Dale though, one of his front paws curls in underneath his leg.. I find it very unusual.
I weighed both of them, they're both about 75 grams.
Also, I moved them back in together since Chip seems to be doing better about settling down around Dale

Did you get the syringes and nipples? They are inside of the box with the heating pad....:thumbsup
Glad that they are back in together....that's comforting for them, they need buddies...:highfive

[babysquirrelchip]

Did you get the syringes and nipples? They are inside of the box with the heating pad....:thumbsup
Glad that they are back in together....that's comforting for them, they need buddies...:highfive
Yes!! Thank you so much!!
& they both seem to be doing great. Dale is doing so much better (although he does not look like he's moving around normally.. he's getting more active.. he also hasn't opened his eyes... but he looks fluffier than Chip!)
:thankyou :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou

[Sweet Simon's Mommy]

tinfoil :worthless

[babysquirrelchip]

tinfoil :worthless

Heheh, I'll take a few soon :) I've been a bit busy with my friend in town!

& how much yogurt am I supposed to give Dale?:thinking

P.S.

[babysquirrelchip]

Look at Dale's paws, his left one in particular.
Do you see how it is curled? He can't hold onto anything with that paw. Can't grip the syringe, nothing. He can move it, but can't un-clench it. The vet says it's not broken.. What do you guys think is wrong? I don't know if the cat could have caused this..:thinking
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[psychobird]

Maybe it's sprained, has a hairline fracture, or a toe is broken
And it's sore
Probably not worth splinting as long as he isnt to active and you keep him in a smallish container where he can't fall and make matters worse
Keep and eye on it, something like that can take a couple of weeks to heal

[psychobird]

Do his joints move normally, elbow? Shoulder? Wrist?

[psychobird]

Vet can miss things too, sometimes xrays r the only way to see subtle breaks but they won't necessarily show soft tissue injuries
Does it look swollen anywhere, compare to uninjured leg

[Sweet Simon's Mommy]

He sure looks like something hurts..
Are you giving him BABY Ibprophen
could be nerve damage, ligament, muscle, non of these show in x-rays

[island rehabber]

I'm thinking nerve damage, too....sometimes this will improve, sometimes no. :(

[babysquirrelchip]

He sure looks like something hurts..
Are you giving him BABY Ibprophen
could be nerve damage, ligament, muscle, non of these show in x-rays

He's on the baby ibuprofen. I don't know what's wrong with him..
If you move it forward and stretch his paw out, it works normally. He doesn't act like it hurts. He tries to move his paw, but he can't.

[babysquirrelchip]

I've got Dannon all natural yogurt,
how much should I give him with his medicine?

[psychobird]

just suck up like 0.25 in a syringe, or mix a little in his formula, don't give it the same time as the antibiotics, they will just immediatly kill all the good bacteria in the yogurt
so if you are dosing him in the am and the pm, give sometime in between

[Mrs Skul]

:wave123 Hi Babysquirrelchip
Dale is looking Much better. You can see how swollen his little Paw is. The swelling looks like it goes up into the arm.
Have you tried Running WARM water out of the faucet. Then stick his little hand and Arm under it. (Letting it just Run over and Massage the hand.)
Does the hand feel Cool then the other? What about Warmer the the other? Is the color the same as his other hand?
:grouphug I glad you put them both together again. :Love_Icon

[babysquirrelchip]

:wave123 Hi Babysquirrelchip
Dale is looking Much better. You can see how swollen his little Paw is. The swelling looks like it goes up into the arm.
Have you tried Running WARM water out of the faucet. Then stick his little hand and Arm under it. (Letting it just Run over and Massage the hand.)
Does the hand feel Cool then the other? What about Warmer the the other? Is the color the same as his other hand?
:grouphug I glad you put them both together again. :Love_Icon


It feels warmer. It's healed a little because he's definitely moving it a lot more. I put it under some water, we'll see how that goes.
Is it strange he hasn't opened his eyes yet? Chip looks younger than he does..

[psychobird]

i don't think so, every sq is different, sounds like whatever is going on with his foot is improving

[babysquirrelchip]

I talked to the person who found Dale,
he was bleeding on his paw.
AKA. The cat had him by his paw.
Now we know :/

[psychobird]

Owie, mean cat!

[babysquirrelchip]

Dale opened his eyes!!
& the two keep cuddling and playing.
:jump

[rocky63]

Happy to here Dale is doing better now:wahoo :wahoo Great job By everyone :bowdown

[psychobird]

hi dale!!

[SammysMom]

Nice for him to see who he is snuggling with! :grouphug :grouphug :grouphug

[babysquirrelchip]

I'll post pics soon, I've just been extremely busy hahah :D

[babysquirrelchip]

UPDATE:
http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=743972#post743972