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Trooper
03-05-2012, 04:59 PM
Hi Forum;

Some of you have been of instrumental help during last week, when my 6 month old Eastern squirrel decided to ditch the only home he knew and venture to the wild on his own.

Much to my dismay at the time and the hopes that he would make it out there, he returned on his own five days after his escapade without once having seen his cute face in between.

Now that he is home again, I couldn't overlook that Trooper's behavior has changed. And once again in hope that you more knowledgeable people might shed some light on the subject. To minimize writing a long speech, I will bulletize his behavior for easy interpretation:

1) He does not look at a window or door facing the outside world anymore since he came back.
2) He is brought to alertness with snapping tail flicks when he hears a dog bark, yet he can get nose-to-nose to my Dalmatian, so I deduce he has been frightened by dog barking but does not yet connects the bark to the dog.
3) He seems skittish when I pick him up until he recognizes is me and then settles down.
4) He is more playful with me at our regular meeting times than before.
4a) He seeks my affection forcibly (asks to be scratched on his head or belly by grabbing fingers or hand and throwing them to his body, putting my fingers in his mouth's diastema and motioning them to soothe him, etc.).
5) Even though my wife was always second banana to him (he definitely has imprinted on me and I am his designated human mentor) he had begun playing with her too, yet yesterday he gave her a nasty bite on her finger when he was being held by me.
6) He has a incessant drive to stash all his non-perishable nuts and some veggies in the scatter hoarding manner, outside his cage (my laboratory, living room couch, garbage cans, loose clothing, cracks on furniture, etc.).
7) Today for example after I said good by to him for the day, he stood in his cage with a hazelnut in his mouth, sitting in his nest porch. At noon time my wife found him still sitting there with the hazelnut in his mouth doing nothing, and when she approaches him he starts running around the cage trying to get out to stash his nut.
8) He seems to want to stash nuts outside the cage more than inside, like he did before.
9) I made bark chips baskets out of basket type garbage cans. He uses them to stash his nuts. I did that because he goes around and around trying to locate the best stash hole.
10) After stashing the nuts, he approaches me for play like nothing happened and seeks my affection again.

I theorize the following:
1) It was mating time and he had to go out and do his thing.
2) Window was left crack open, he said this is my chance and he got out without knowing what was out there and without any food supplies.
3) No food and probably little water (it rained two days of his 5 out) made him think about the lack of supplies (he lost actually 65 grams in 5 days not 35 grams as I initially quoted).
4) He has decided inside life is better than outside one and he is scatter hoarding his indoor lair for future famine to come.

I have decided not to give him whole nuts (with shell) in his cage anymore, so he would not be forced to hold them until I get home to let him out and enable him to stash them (my wife is still sore from his bites and for the time being does not want to be in contact with him).

Aside from this any comments or advise?

Thanks, Trooper's dad:thankyou :bowdown

IrishHarps
03-05-2012, 05:06 PM
7) Today for example after I said good by to him for the day, he stood in his cage with a hazelnut in his mouth, sitting in his nest porch. At noon time my wife found him still sitting there with the hazelnut in his mouth doing nothing, and when she approaches him he starts running around the cage trying to get out to stash his nut.


This isn't going to add much, but I have a flyer, and she does this too (not quite as intensely - just for a few minutes- but she will 'freeze' for a minute until you come snap her out of it).

Anyone have any ideas what this is?

Sweet Simon's Mommy
03-05-2012, 05:06 PM
Hi Troopers DAD

He is probably confused a little also.
He knows it is safe at home with you but you will never know what may have scared him out there.
Some of his wild instincts have come home with him.

fire-eyez
03-05-2012, 05:22 PM
This isn't going to add much, but I have a flyer, and she does this too (not quite as intensely - just for a few minutes- but she will 'freeze' for a minute until you come snap her out of it).

Anyone have any ideas what this is?

My grey does that.....he will also run in his wheel with the nut in his mouth, he will play with it in his mouth nap with it in his mouth, lick it all around then put it back in his mouth lol....I just don't know lol

pappy1264
03-05-2012, 05:34 PM
He may decide he wants to stay inside, just so you know. Sounds somewhat like Peanut. I agree, for now, now in shell nuts, so he is not wanting to stash it. Hopefully time will let him fall back into his routine.

astra
03-05-2012, 05:48 PM
what everyone said so far and what you deduced:

1. looks like he is not interested in the outside anymore, at least for now. As pappy said, he probably wants to stay inside;

2. stashing is normal, totally normal. Excessive stashing (is there such a thing for a squirrel as "excessive stashing" anyway ;)) might have to do with him going hungry with no food while he was outside exploring.
Do limit in-shell nuts until he stops or moderates it, because stashes might lead to extra aggression

3. The fact that he is not afraid of your dog and does not connect barking to a dog makes him non-releasable for now.
He should be afraid of dogs before he can be released, if at all (but sounds like for now you don't need to worry about that).
Without natural fear of dogs he will be killed by the first dog he sees outside.

Even his reaction to barking might be similar to his reaction to strange disturbing sounds in general.

4. Biting is normal... especially, if he is being "protective" of you - he might sense that your wife has some demands on your attention, and he just let her know that your undivided attention belongs to him. ;)

Do keep playing with him, Take advantage of this and make your bond stronger because again, if he is not afraid of dogs, he cannot be released, and if he cannot (or chooses not to) be released, he needs complete trust and a strong bond with you so that his indoor life will be as comfortable and enjoyable as possible, for everyone involved.

I don't know what your situation is like in terms of how you can limit his exposure to the dog, but
it would be best to keep them completely separated: "out of sight, out of mind", just in case one day he changes his mind and decides he wants to live outside. Again, even that separation does not always guarantee that squirrels regain their natural fear of dogs (and cats), but there is a chance.

But if you cannot separate them and he continues not to be afraid of dogs, then - imo, he should not be released.

pappy1264
03-05-2012, 05:56 PM
Peanut will not even stay on me if I go anywhere near a window. He wants nothing to do with the great outdoors (been there, done that, no thanks! lol)

Trooper
03-05-2012, 06:54 PM
Wow! what a great group of nuts, that is food for squirrels, I meant! (just kidding).

My enthusiasm on this forum grows every day by the miles! I wonder what other rehabbers of fauna out there do without a forum like TSB?

Anyway, thank you all for the data and comments on how your loved ones behave in situations similar to Trooper's.

To Astra's comments, Trooper and Tessa, my Dalmatian that coincidentally found him when he fell of a tree six months ago and was at the time going through a false pregnancy and thought Trooper was her baby puppy; do not cross paths: Trooper once gave her a paw on her nose and Tessa said enough of that, you ain't in my circle anymore! My comment about seeing each other nose-to-nose was more metaphorically as they see each other at a safe distance from each other (about 3 to 6 feet) and don't bother one another.

I guess my instincts of not giving him in-shell nuts was spot-on so no more in the shell goodies for him until he relaxes a bit.

As far as my wife, we'll limit her contact when I am not so close to him while playing, unless you recommend otherwise. I think though, my wife will refrain from playing with him, at least until her finger heals a bit or else she's already threaten not to cook for me anymore! I told her she was the one that saved him twice when Tessa found him on the floor and later when Trooper came back from his AWOL, so like the saying goes: "when you save someone's life, you are responsible for it the rest of yours"

Thanks again!:thankyou :thankyou :thumbsup

crazysquirrels
03-06-2012, 12:37 AM
My two cents. He got out as you know. Was wondering when a dog scared the crap out of him. He was probibly stuck in a tree for a bid and now is afraid to go out. He is skiddish due the the fright he got. Its rough out there right now and he may have not been up to yet.

patjones
03-06-2012, 03:03 AM
Six months is still a young squirrel sounds like with all the exitement he had a very lonely 5 days and missed the loving he gets at home. More than anything I just wanted to say how happy I am for you that he is back. I read the thread when you lost him and missed the follow up but I can only imagine how your heart felt when you saw him after five days. Welcome back to the world of sleeping at night and breathing in and out without pain!!

Trooper
03-14-2012, 03:12 PM
Well it has been two weeks since he came back and his behavior, although still changed, is easying up a bit. Not giving him in-the-shell nuts has helped a lot. No more scattering around the shop, lab or house trying to stash them.

In lieu of that, he has started to stash veggies. Now I find pieces of broccoli, cauliflower, artichoke and apple stuffed in any and every crevice he finds. The one thing is different, he does not growl like a mad pig when I grab him to take some of it out of his mouth like he used to do with nuts.

The other behavior that has changed is his eating habits and amount. he eats everything now. His porridge (a mix of Mazuri blocks with Fox Valley milk, calcium, alfalfa, Vit-D, etc.) is gone twice a day and he literally eats everything by the end of the day.

I've noticed a rise in his weight from 634 g when he came back to 745 g yesterday. I guess he would be on the overweight side so I'd like advice if I need to cut him back. He only eats 1 to 2 full nuts per day or its equivalent in mix nuts bits (peanut, cashew, pecan, walnut, brazilian, macadamia, pistachio, pumpkin & sunflower seeds) which does not exceed a total aggregate weight of 0.3 oz (10 g) .

Your advice will be appreciated,

Trooper's dad.:thankyou