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NovaAlison23
09-05-2011, 02:35 PM
Okay I have a few more questions, but since they seem to be over the emergent moments figured I would post here.

Jack was found around 9am yesterday morning. Jill was not found until about 8pm the same day, she was freezing and scared to death.

Heres what is currently going on
Jack has no tent when pulled on his shoulders.
Jack is not very afraid of us
He seems to easily find a place to keep himself warm.
He loves to nibble on his rat biscuit (it's just a store brand one, ordered the ones off Henrys, also ordered VC)
He will start the goat milk yogurt mix in 2 hours

Jill has a tiny tent when pulled on her shoulders
She can not seem to find herself a warm spot, I have to keep moving her (she gets too warm, or stays where it's cold even with a rice buddy)
She is very scared of us, can only be handled when her body is completely covered.
She finally fed a full 5cc's of home made pedia this afternoon and chirped everytime I had to refill
I will wait until at least one more pedia to start her on goat milk mix

Questions :
They did not have YoBaby in anything but blueberry and peach, the guy in the health food store offered a full fat vanilla solution, it is Mountain High Orginal Style All Natural Vanilla Yogurt. Is it better for me to get the other flavor or stick with this one?
I got some Kefir, I read a lot of posts saying it was very helpful to the babies, how/what do I feed this with?
How many days before I should start adding the heavy cream?
Can they have a water dish in their cage? They both seem to love water.
Jack is suckling the syringe so hard it's moving the end piece, should I let him control the flow on his own?
They both fell from the tree, no question based on how the tree is set up, probably 10 feet, should I look for anything special to make sure they are okay after such a fall?
I cannot get them to urinate or deficate after a feeding, but I can tell, based on seeing urine on one of the toys they have, that it is happening, should I keep trying to stimulate?
Is there anything else special I should be watching for? I cannot examine Jill very well, but I can examine Jack, after a feeding he loves to run around my whole body playing.
Is there anything I can do to calm Jills nerves?
Any ideas where I can get a no shut off heating pad? I was up every hour last night, and I need to be able to sleep (2 kids, 2 dogs, and 2 babies now. I need my energy lol)

(Sorry for all the questions, but when you're up all night watching to make sure the baby girl doesn't get cold your mind races with questions)

:thankyou In advance

Adventurista
09-05-2011, 02:54 PM
I can answer a couple of questions, based on my 10 days' of experience. The yogurt you got is fine. You may not have to add the cream if your Fox Valley comes in quickly (mine took about three days, and we're in about the same area of the country).

We have a really old-fashioned heating pad, so it doesn't shut off. I saw the right ones for sale on the Henry's site, so you could probably order one there. You might check with family or friends, especially if they're a bit older and don't have the newer, fancy versions. Maybe a thrift store, too. You can also get plant-tray warmers for starting seeds (and they would probably be on clearance right now) or a reptile warmer.

I know what you mean about sleep. I've been feeding mine every two hours and I'm just about pooped. I got a lot of sleep this weekend so I'm hoping it holds me over. I keep thinking I'm crazy, but there are no rehabbers in Idaho and I can't just let him die. Did you get my PM about the vet?

SammysMom
09-05-2011, 02:59 PM
I got a heating pad at CVS that doesn't turn off. You can add the yogurt (vanilla full-fat) to formula if I am not mistaken. All they would be getting from mom at this point is milk so formula with a possible extra of pedialyte in between should be okay. If you put a water bowl in make sure to first fill it with marbles or small clean stones then add water so they don't breath it in by putting their nose all the way into the water.
Just keep handling Jill while feeding and I bet she will come around. Having food associated with cuddling will go a long way!:thumbsup

NovaAlison23
09-05-2011, 03:08 PM
I did get the PM, its Labor Day, so I will call in the morning.
The water we got is the kind where they can't stick their noses in it, side of the cage type.
Jack won't stop cussing at me the last 10 minutes, do I feed him again? Even though it's only been 2 hours, or let him cuss? Trying to get the man to "baby sit" while I take a nap, I'm so tired I'm reading this through one eye. He tried to help last night and only managed to get Jill soaking wet in pedia, so she skipped a feeding this morning in fear, but at least he tried? lol

SammysMom
09-05-2011, 03:14 PM
I am not an expert, but if he is fussing vocally I would feed him more. Be sure that you go VERY slowly feeding Jill. You don't want to aspirate her accidentally. Wrap her up tight like a burrito while you feed her to make her feel safe and cozy. Also make sure the formula is very warm and stays that way for the whole feeding. Squirrels have higher body temps than us so it does feel very warm.:grouphug

NovaAlison23
09-05-2011, 08:02 PM
:sanp3
Someone help me, tell me I can do this? Jack and Jill, just went to Jack, Jill, Boy A and Girl A. Boy A is NOT happy about any of this, but did run down the tree to us. Man ran out to get another heater, but..... 4? 2 was making me sleep deprived, but still smiling. Now I'm like.... what do I do?
I have no idea about Boy and Girl A, I only found them about 10 minutes ago and they went right into Jack and Jills old drawer with rice socks.
Girl A calmed down as soon as she was wrapped in my shirt with heat, she even closed her eyes. Boy A was fighting and screaming to get away from us. Still no signs of a mom (I assume if mom was there the other babies wouldn't have left their nest right?)

astra
09-05-2011, 08:08 PM
:sanp3
2 was making me sleep deprived, but still smiling. Now I'm like.... what do I do?

4 will make you even more sleep deprived, but now you will be grinning and laughing, not just smiling...:D
but on a more serious note - YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup :wahoo :alright.gif :flash3 :crazy :multi :bowdown :grouphug :)

SammysMom
09-05-2011, 08:14 PM
Wow! Trial by fire is what I'd call that! :osnap But, if you have to be up anyway what's 2 more? Those are some lucky babies to have found you! :thumbsup :grouphug :thumbsup

NovaAlison23
09-05-2011, 08:15 PM
Well having 4 with the help I had all week would be fine, but Labor Day is over, and now its just me, myself and I.
Okay I cant get a new cage until the 15th, how do I cage all 4 of them? Ill post pics of the one I have to see if it's big enough... I hope it is, at least for a few.

NovaAlison23
09-05-2011, 08:48 PM
http://i56.tinypic.com/6pvvw5.jpg
I can't tell you which this is, they get pretty mad when I disturb them at all, too cold I think. But we shall name is Baby 1
http://i53.tinypic.com/v48jtc.jpg
Baby 2 (do it's toes look right?)

http://i55.tinypic.com/168j0d4.jpg
The home i got for 2 babies, will 4 fit in there okay??

Adventurista
09-05-2011, 08:53 PM
Oh, wow! Girl you are gonna be a pro after this! All I can say is, at least yours have fur! Good luck---you can do it! :wahoo

NovaAlison23
09-05-2011, 08:58 PM
I do count myself lucky for having Jack. He adores us, well except peeing and pooping on my pillow, but he still loves to run around with my man and I. Were going to check the new babies out, I may have more pictures. Were gonna look for maggots and cuts, and Ill try to get a close up of the babies foot I'm worried about.