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Patty
07-23-2011, 09:11 AM
Hi everyone,
Well, I work at a vet office, and someone brought in a baby squirrel yesterday afternoon. He is roughly 7 to 10 days old. I was told that he fell from a nest very high up, and looking at him, he has quite the contusion on the top of him head- very bruised looking. One of the vets looked at him and offered some Dex SP 2% for swelling, which we did. Too small to get a vein for Mannitol, So I have been giving him drops of Dextrose 50%, and SQ fluids. Have kept him warm and put him with my other little guy that is close in age. I'll name him Randy. Randy is very limp and pale and I can't seem to stimulate any pee out of him. Is there any suggestions for this liitle guy, anyone? Do I just wait it out and do what I'm doing now? I tried to give him some formula this AM, but darn near asphyxiated him. He's ok, but I was feeling desparate for his nutrition status. I just wish there was something else I could do.:dono
Jackie in Tampa
07-23-2011, 09:16 AM
sometimes you cannot turn them around..sad as that sounds...
my advise is slow...drop by drop..
will he, is he able to swallow..
if i am close and you would like to passhim to someone, i am an old stay home mom and will try.
have you rubbed molasses or log cabin om his gums, sometimes bring up blood sugar will spark some life.
God bless you for trying
Pierre
07-23-2011, 09:22 AM
Hi!
I'm glad you're helping this baby.
IR has a great check list / instruction "manual" for first found babies. I hope someone here can find it and post it because I can't seem to locate the stickie.
The baby is probably not be peeing because s/he is so dehydrated. Don't worry about that now.
I'm sorry to hear the little one is so hurt. I am hoping s/he'll come around. It will probably take awhile to see improvement.
Others are surely posting right now with more info!
:grouphug
Nancy in New York
07-23-2011, 09:28 AM
Hi!
I'm glad you're helping this baby.
IR has a great check list / instruction "manual" for first found babies. I hope someone here can find it and post it because I can't seem to locate the stickie.
The baby is probably not be peeing because s/he is so dehydrated. Don't worry about that now.
I'm sorry to hear the little one is so hurt. I am hoping s/he'll come around. It will probably take awhile to see improvement.
Others are surely posting right now with more info!
:grouphug
Is this what you were looking for?:)
EMERGENCY CARE FOR BABY SQUIRRELS
http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21626
And then there is this one:
I FOUND A BABY SQUIRREL, NOW WHAT??
http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11782
Pierre, if you click on "emergency" (or any category for that matter) look down at all of the threads, the stickies are the first ones posted in each section.:thumbsup
Patty
07-23-2011, 09:29 AM
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I am doing what I know. I just feel so helpless for this little guy. I don't think he is swallowing. He does seem to be moving his arms and legs more and I am trying to stimulate him with caresses. Jackie, I am located in Citrus county Florida.
lilidukes
07-23-2011, 09:36 AM
sometimes you cannot turn them around..sad as that sounds...
my advise is slow...drop by drop..
will he, is he able to swallow..
if i am close and you would like to passhim to someone, i am an old stay home mom and will try.
have you rubbed molasses or log cabin om his gums, sometimes bring up blood sugar will spark some life.
God bless you for trying
:goodpost jit just very recently save one by using the molasses followed by a wee bit of FV!
Patty
07-23-2011, 09:39 AM
Okay, I have molasses. FV? I guess my brain is not working yet! what is FV?
Milo's Mom
07-23-2011, 09:42 AM
Okay, I have molasses. FV? I guess my brain is not working yet! what is FV?
Fox Valley Formula
island rehabber
07-23-2011, 09:46 AM
Patty, if the baby will take fluids by mouth -- even drop by drop -- I would focus on getting him/her hydrated with Pedialyte or Ringers over the next 4-5 hrs. If he won't take anything by mouth then you'll need to sub-Q. Dehydration is the primary cause of lack of appetite and lethargy so that must be addressed first. :)
BTW if you haven't sub-Q'd many baby squirrels, we generally find the skin around the shoulders and haunches on either side to be a good place. :thumbsup
Nancy in New York
07-23-2011, 09:47 AM
Okay, I have molasses. FV? I guess my brain is not working yet! what is FV?
Here is their site:
http://foxvalleynutrition.com/main/home.asp
Or you can just purchase it from one of our members.This is our members site:
http://henryspets.com
You would need the 32/40 formula. This cannot be purchased in stores. Perhaps you are close to a member that can give you some until your order arrives...:dono
Patty
07-23-2011, 09:58 AM
It seems like a drop in the mouth is okay; I think anymore than that at a time is not good. I think his brain has really been affected, just the way he moves his arms and legs and postures. I have been giving him LRS under his skin mostly around his upper back area where there is more 'give' in the skin. I do have Fox Valley formula, but I guess I have to wait right now and do the glucose/molasses until he comes around more. I do think it is helping to have a litter mate in with him for stimulation. They love to be touched and to touch. :tilt
Jackie in Tampa
07-23-2011, 11:36 AM
dip the nipple or q tip in molasses...smear it on the gums...
the mouth is the most absorbant membrane in mammels...
do not dilute or anything...just get it on or in his mouth, a wee dab will do it..bringing his sugar levels up will cease any glycemic seizures and stimulate appetite...
even in a sq that is very lethargic {I actually think this is the best medicine when they are lethargic}
oral hydration is also better than Sub Q as long as they can swallow...drop by drop is life saving..
I agree with the pedi advise IR has given...
if the sq is emaciated, I would start adding dilute formula, as nothing thrives wthout nutrition and formula is hydration, yet pedi is a must in the beginning to get the electrolytes headed in the right direction...
brain damage posturing is sooo obvious to someone who knows what they are seeing, this is heartbreaking of course. But many sq live happy lives and over come the obstacles if it's meant to be.
Good luck and thank you...
kiss the little monkey, let him feel your heartbeat...love heals:Love_Icon
Patty
07-23-2011, 10:40 PM
Hey everybody! Randy, the little boy squirrel is coming out of it!!!:wahoo He is moving his arms and legs better and is holding his head alittle better. He still is pretty flaccid (sp?) but really seems to be taking a step forward! I am so happy! :rotfl Thank you all for your help and words of wisdom and encouragement. I will be posting some updates tomorrow.
Jackie -- the girls at work teasingly call me the squirrel kisser! I don't mind; I'm a kisser - I've always kissed my children alot, and now that they have grown up and are not at home now, well, the squirrels have to put up with me!!!:flash3
lilidukes
07-23-2011, 11:12 PM
:multi :multi good news! Please kiss that baby for me at least 100 times a day. Squirrels Love kisses especially the belly ones.:thumbsup
Busysqrl
07-23-2011, 11:26 PM
That is great news! Your hard and loving work is paying off. I'll be checking back on little Randy. Good luck:grouphug :grouphug :grouphug
island rehabber
07-23-2011, 11:40 PM
Great news, Patty! You're doing beautifully....Randy's in good hands :thumbsup :)
UDoWhat
07-24-2011, 12:02 AM
:multi :multi good news! Please kiss that baby for me at least 100 times a day. Squirrels Love kisses especially the belly ones.:thumbsup
What she said. And 100 more kisses from me too.:Love_Icon :Love_Icon
momma2boo
07-24-2011, 12:08 AM
What she said. And 100 more kisses from me too.:Love_Icon :Love_Icon
Better add 100 more ... I want in on some of that action. :D
stepnstone
07-24-2011, 09:10 AM
Patty :thumbsup ~ Randy :Love_Icon
Rescue04
07-24-2011, 09:22 AM
Hey everybody! Randy, the little boy squirrel is coming out of it!!!:wahoo He is moving his arms and legs better and is holding his head alittle better. He still is pretty flaccid (sp?) but really seems to be taking a step forward! I am so happy! :rotfl Thank you all for your help and words of wisdom and encouragement. I will be posting some updates tomorrow.
Jackie -- the girls at work teasingly call me the squirrel kisser! I don't mind; I'm a kisser - I've always kissed my children alot, and now that they have grown up and are not at home now, well, the squirrels have to put up with me!!!:flash3
This is proof that taking it personal makes a big difference! Way to go, as one person said we (rehabbers) are mother nature's back up plan! Keep us update and post up a pick or two when you get a chane.....:wahoo
Scooterzmom
07-24-2011, 01:35 PM
Any news of little Randy? I want in on the kissing thing too... put in a 100 from me :D
Patty
07-31-2011, 09:45 PM
Hi everyone! :wave123 I'm sorry it's been so long since I checked in with news on Randy. My father in law is gravely ill, and we've had alot going on. But, back to Randy. He is doing so much better. The hematoma on the top of his head is gone and he is moving around well. I just suspect that he will have some difficulties as he grows older. He is smaller than his littermate and his head is a little misshapen. He still moves differently and puts his head back weird. Poor little buddy! We will just have to see, and I am definitely not giving up on him! I have had a baby squirrel with a head injury before - Orville, and he was alittle slow picking up on eating solids and took longer to release, but he did go eventually and he did fine. So there you have it. Thanks all, for all the encouragement. You guys are fantastic and we are all fortunate to have The Squirrel Board to go to for whatever we need. Oh, and he does get lots of kisses! He and Chester grab on:thankyou to my nose when I nuzzle them! Ahhhh, squirrel love!
Patty
07-31-2011, 11:15 PM
I tried to attach a couple photos of Randy and they were uploaded, but I don't know where they went! Any suggestions?:dono
:Welcome Sending my kisses to Randy
and Chester
Pics upload...once you have uploaded the picture then click on "close this window" in upper right hand corner. Then go back up to the paperclip and the attachment(s) will show up.
Hoping how I explain makes sense:D
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