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Yesterday, I found another dead squirrel in my back yard. She was a female and looked like she is a mother feeding little ones as well. I have no idea where her drey may be as their are several on my property.
Later, as I was ready to leave for work, I see the yong girl next door with her gun shooting everything in sight. she was just randomly shooting. I wanted to run over there and strip her of her stupid gun, but I controlled myself. I have spoken to her once before about pointing her gun towards my property. Of course, now she sneakingly shoots from her back deck.
I am wondering if the babies that this mother has somewhere up in the trees will eventually come down in search for food??? Or would they just stay put in the drey ? Does anyone know?
I wrote a letter to the young girl with the facts about shooting in CT, and the laws concerning hunting and killing squirrels. Since she's shooting within 500ft of my house, she is illegal, and I will definitely report this to the ST police the next time I see her out there. I did read that the air guns, BB guns are under the same shooting laws as any rifle.
Maddy
stosh2010
05-13-2011, 03:52 PM
That is sad...young kids need to be educated--and learn the value of every life---If it were me...before I burried it --I would take some close up photos of the poor squirrel...and every day -for a week--put a copy on the windshield of their car.
stepnstone
05-13-2011, 05:33 PM
Sorry to hear this. I had a simular problem with neighbors in Pa. when I lived there. They shot cats with 22cal pellets, no respect for living things at all. One day they left the gun unattended... Lets just say the problem ended after that. :dono
JakesLittlePrincess
05-13-2011, 05:47 PM
I am also sorry to hear about this. BB guns were the reason my LB was orphaned. Cops never did a thing and laughed it off around here. :(. I hope you can get through to this person.
Wonkawillie
05-13-2011, 05:53 PM
I see this all the time. It totally sucks. My nieghbors kids do this, and it sickens me. Sad thing about it, is the mom runs a daycare and is the sweetest thing around. She is so sweet and loving with the kids and her kids as well. They come from a hunting family and I guess they think this is ok. They do not eat these animals. Just kill to ....kill. Sick!!!!!!!!!!!
SammysMom
05-13-2011, 06:14 PM
If every one of them had the chance to help care for one sweet little baby they would never do it again. Somehow so many people see them a "just squirrels". All it takes is a little education and personal experience to change that horrible "just" to "sweet". I would never have harmed a squirrel, but since Sammy I will never see them the same way again. I wish everyone could feel the love of one of these little guys. They could never hurt another one! :soapbox
rockybaby
05-13-2011, 06:17 PM
Sick....sick...sick. Be sure to follow through - if there is a next time. And, I really like Stosh's idea....maybe it would drive the lesson home. Keep looking for the babies - of course it depends on how old they are. My RockyBoy was a little guy, just about 4 weeks when he climed his way down looking for his mom (who had been run over in the street a couple days earlier) - so if they are old enough, they'll come down. Good luck.
Rhapsody
05-13-2011, 09:07 PM
IF I may ask?
Why are we waiting for the next time..... why not call NOW? :dono
crazysquirrels
05-13-2011, 10:56 PM
Here is what you do. Next time you see her walk over and NICELY say "thats a nice gun, what kind is it" Look intrested. "Can I see it?" Once she hands it to you and she will. Pull the triger to the ground and make sure its not ready to fire. Grab it by the barrel end and as hard as you can snap it in two at the nearest tree. " Next time I find a dead animal in my yard you may want to run".
Well, I wrote the girl a letter stating Ct state law concerning shooting air guns within 500 feet of the building where humans and domestic animals live, and apparently, she didn't really take that part in, in which I received a nastly little reply from her telling me to mind my own business, and that she can shoot her gun on her property at any time. And she's not hunting, she's merely trying to prevent more damage to her house from squirrels. And she said her father checked with the state police about her shooting on her property.
So I will have to call the town on Monday and see about what the real deal is. From everything I read, CT has a 500 feet law. Their house is much closer to ours than 500 feet. And I also read that a pellet, air gun , is under the same quidelines as any other rifle.
I have been known to bury guns that were being misused before. I have two squirrels that are blind in one eye , from which I felt was a pellet gun injury. One is my original 5 that I raised and he's now 4 years old and lives in trees closer to their property line. I'm sure she shot him.
Unfortunatly, at the moment, she is feeling she can shoot legally, and will now probably shoot more because of my letter to her.
Jackie in Tampa
05-14-2011, 08:15 AM
Mads..I would go to jail but she would not have that gun...I am just saying...:peace
iT COSTS $50 TO GET OUTTA JAIL ror!!!:D
i KNOW i AM EXTREME REBEL:peace
Can you tape a tag on her pets collar ?
saying something along the lines of
I WAS SPARED, NO BBs please!
so she understands that a tit for a tat...
some people are bone heads and need a kick in the ass!:soapbox
sOMETHING SIMILAR HAPPENED HERE...i GAVE fRED $100 BILL AND HE RODE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFERING IT AS A REWARD for info on who had the BB gun...on his mini bike...he has extremely long hair and put on his evil face...sorta scarey when he wants to be...so the word was out....
the local kids knew someone cared enough...he threatened to take gun away if he found out WHO...but we are in the city limits and a BB gun IS THE SAME AS a rifle here..a gun is a gun in the city!
I haven't seen anymore BB incidents.
good luck, wish there was something solid you could do..ugh!:soapbox
Luckily, the State has very specific rules concerning guns and pellet guns are under the same rules as all rifles in CT. So, she legally cannot shoot on her property at all because she hasn't got the 500 foot clearance between houses. She needs 250 feet from the road and then 500 between all houses.
Plus, squirrels, even if they are causing any damage to your property, still cannot be legally shot out of "season" . There is a season about a month long in the fall.
So I am going to again address this with her. Her snippy little comments to me to just mind my own business isn't going to fly with me! I wrote her again , in which I will deliver this morning....and if she wants to come back with another snipppy little comment, I will call whoever I need to to make sure her gun becomes a thing of the past for her!
I also told her that I have her on film shooting into my yard, so, perhaps that will convince her to stop shooting, although, it's not true, I've seen her point and shoot on my property, but I don't really have her on film.
Again this morning, I had a squirrel on the porch with a BB gun looking injury just below his right eye. It sucks that sometimes, when you make a strong point with a neighbor, there is a retaliation because they simply are stupid people!
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stosh2010
05-14-2011, 09:17 AM
Another thought... SERVE HER NOTICE...
Type a "Politically Correct" letter( snail mail ) include the legal statements and gun codes with code # , date your incidents, include photos of dead squirrels and detailed descriptions, and SEND it Registered Mail...once someone signs for it--you have legal proof she is aware of all the statutes--and she can't plead ignorance a month from now when it happens again. ALSO--a parent is libel for the actions of their children. If there is a shooting range in your city...maybe ?? buy one prepaid hour ( or just the directions and phone #)and include it as a reminder of where they can practice using their guns--safely & legally.
PS...save a copy of everything you send to them.... maybe get it notarized ( free) ...the more LEGAL and official it appears--the more she may BACK OFF....I Hope.
jo_schmoe
05-14-2011, 09:52 AM
You said you thought it was a mother that was shot.
Listen for little cries. Sounds like a baby bird.
Also check the bottoms of trees.
When they are babies....even with eyes closed they sometimes will force them open and leave the nest in search of food. They will go up to almost anything for help. Just keep an ear and eye out....I hope you find them.
Yes, it was a mother that was shot. She had milk. I've been checking under the dreys to watch for babies. I figure right now, it's been 2 days since I found the dead squirrel, so they would venture out sometime soon I would think . It's too bad they were not nested in my nest boxes as that would be easy:(
the dreys are very high up in the pines. I'm afraid that if they do venture out, they could get picked up easily by the constant hawks flying overhead.
I saw 3 little ones yesterday that looked like they were not with a mommy in which I think perhaps they are the babies of the dead squirrel I buried 4 days ago. I have not seen them before and they didn't approach the deck like all the other squirrels do that are aware of the endless supply of mixed nuts from "nuts online"... I threw them some nuts in which they did happily gather up . They do look to be 3 months old anyway, and so I think that they may be ok on their own if they stick to their drey, which I'm sure they will. They are certainly wild at this point , not like little babies that will allow you to gather them easily.
stosh2010
05-15-2011, 10:47 AM
I saw 3 little ones yesterday that looked like they were not with a mommy in which I think perhaps they are the babies of the dead squirrel I buried 4 days ago. "... I threw them some nuts in which they did happily gather up . They do look to be 3 months old anyway, and so I think that they may be ok on their own if they stick to their drey, which I'm sure they will. .
Maybe you can toss some pieces of HHBs to the 3 youngsters???
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rozdow
05-16-2011, 10:37 AM
WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR TIME TRYING TO DEAL WITH AN IDIOT TEENAGER?????? THE PARENTS NEED TO BE INFORMED ABOUT THE LEGAL AND MORAL IMPLICATIONS OF THEIR DAUGHTERS' ACTIONS (WHAT IF SHE INJURES A CHILD??? THEY WILL BE $$$$$ LIABLE).
PERHAPS THE ADMINISTRATION AT HER SCHOOL NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT HER ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR.
WHAT ABOUT ANIMAL CONTROL?
rozdow
05-16-2011, 10:39 AM
WHAT ABOUT POSTING YOUR PROPERTY "NO HUNTING". CHECK WITH DEP FOR THE SPECIFICATIONS ON THIS.
WEll, sometimes when you open these issues up with neighbors, it is like a can of worms. I thought because she was a 16 year old girl, that perhaps just a bit of reasoning with her would be sufficient, but, no....I'm not that lucky. So I did my research on the computer by going to the state and the gun laws, and Dep websites, but to complain about such issues, they revert you back to your town hall, so I called the town today, and of course, they say they have no guidelines that involves "pellet guns" ...call the St. Police. So I call the St police, and ask a few questions, and they said that they know of no law that states a pellet gun can not be used on private property. ...Of course, she can't be pointing at my property. But , she is, and so they said they would go out and speak with her. Which they did, as she was out shooting again. (because of my letter to her, she now has to shoot more)...the cop arrives just as she gets home from school and she's out shooting. They basically tell her she can't point her gun towards my property. that was it basically!!! They can see there's hardly any distance between properties, but when it comes to squirrels , no body really gives a crap! So even though CT laws are clearly stated online, that you need a 500 ft area surrounding you in order to shoot any kind of gun, pellet included....but the other state and town agencies haven't got a "clue" about anything! So how can they friggin ' enforce it. My only hope may be a complaint maybe with the DEP...? Anyway, I did talk with the Mother who gives me this sob story about how the father left her with a bunch of problems and took off to texas with another woman....so she's dealing with her 16 and 19 year old girls and has no control . Plus her house isn't finished so she has all these holes in the rafters on one whole side of her house that are open to any animal that wants to go in. So they are ripping up the insulation and eating the pine logs, (the house is a pine unfinished log house)....and so her thoughts is to kill every one she sees to prevent them from entering her house!!!! She says they will continue to kill the squirrels,
and if I want to keep them all on my property, then they will be safe !
SO THIS IS THE IDIOT I'M DEALING WITH HERE!!!!
I said to her that grey squirrels prefer high up in the trees, and she maintains that the intruders in her house are squirrels because she has "seen" nuts!!!
I think she's flippin' nuts, but anyhow, that doesn't help me out... She could have mice, or rats, chimp mucks, or who knows what. When your house is opened up completely, even if they get rid of what's in there, they'll still be others waiting to go in. I tried to explain to her that her only defense is to get her house closed up. But I get this stupid remark from her that she has NO HUSBAND AND NO MONEY to hire it out. Then she said that well, if they can't shoot them then they will trap them and get rid of them that way.
so I'm not sure I helped matters out any by complaining and bringing it up with this family of idiots. What I heard from her was really a bunch of crap. We both built log houses at the same time 20 years ago. She was an active builder on her house, as I was here on mine. She certainly knew something about construction and it's crazy to me that she can't figure out how to plug up her soffits... So it all sounds like a big bunch of crap to me. Her daughter is an angry young girl who's father deserted her to run to texas with another woman...and so she's acting out by killing animals and just passing it off on protecting "her house'....
I think I will have to do like Jackie in Florida and destroy the weapons!!!
SammysMom
05-16-2011, 09:44 PM
I too am in CT an maybe we need to work together on this little jerk! I have neighbors who have squirrels in their house at the moment too. For now I am working on nest boxes to try to help give the squirrels an alternative living space. What part of CT are you in?
I'm in Pomfret. Where do you live?
I was looking at a product tonight, Ropel... I was thinking maybe I could buy some and give it to the neighbor to see if she will spray it on her wood where the squirrels are going into the house to repel them from the area. I have squirrel boxes , and neither box has any nesting of squirrels going on. Actually, one of the boxes has a family of birds. I have so many dreys though that I just can't imagine that she has all kinds of squirrels in her house. Doesn't make sense to me. Grey's prefer being high in the trees.
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I'm feeling quite discouraged tonight. I have a squirrel from my first litter . He's a male and he already has had his eye shot out on his right side. He's here almost daily and I know he goes off in the direction of their property when he leaves here. He's now 4 years old....I would be devastated to lose him to some dumb little girl with a gun! I have several squirrels here of late with injuries and I think they have all been shot. two others are blinded, and one other has a hole right under his eye....that is the size of a pellet.
SammysMom
05-16-2011, 10:57 PM
I am in New Haven. Someone just told me that putting ammonia soaked rags in the area that you want to get the squirrels out of works. She suggested making boxes available and putting the soaked rags in the attic of the house that they are in. Hoping they will leave and move to the boxes. She also told me that using wood to close op the area won't work. They will chew through it. Hardware cloth or chicken wire works for some reason. She said they somehow know that they can't get through it. Maybe get the some wire cloth to run over the open soffet? Just be sure they are all out before closing it up though. Tell her to try the ammonia, but be sure the kid isn't going to be shooting them as they leave!
I also was just reading about using a strobe light. The squirrels feel alarmed by a strobe, and they will gather up the little ones and go on to another living arrangement. the site says it works with mice and rats as well.
SammysMom
05-16-2011, 11:28 PM
Loud music is also supposed to work. Just don't want the kid to take advantage of the ones who are leaving. She sounds horrible! Maybe if you offer to help the woman she will control the kid in order to have you continue to help? I will contribute to the fund for fencing etc. if it helps the situation.
rozdow
05-17-2011, 07:15 AM
I thought more about this situation last night, two more suggestions
1. a well-crafted letter from an attorney which threatens criminal/civil action against them if they continue to "harass" you & the wildlefe (harass is a greAt buzz word these days).
2. contact laura simon at the CT branch of HSUS. She is a rehabber as well & may have some additional ideas regarding idiot neighbors. www.wildlifehotline.org tinfoil
Hannah
05-17-2011, 07:44 AM
Although I have on good authority that pellet or bb weapons, when used properly, can provide a quick, humane death for both people and animals, if your neighbor is just injuring the animals, she must not be using it properly. It'd be better if she had a lethal weapon or something that would only sting and not injure, so she could scare the animals off. If she really doesn't like squirrels, she'll have to get rid of the trees on her property, though, or they'll just come back. It doesn't sound like your neighbors have the money or equipment to do that, though.
It's a bad situation. I hope something works out.
astra
05-17-2011, 08:59 AM
I thought more about this situation last night, two more suggestions
1. a well-crafted letter from an attorney which threatens criminal/civil action against them if they continue to "harass" you & the wildlefe (harass is a greAt buzz word these days).2. contact laura simon at the CT branch of HSUS. She is a rehabber as well & may have some additional ideas regarding idiot neighbors. www.wildlifehotline.org tinfoil
:thumbsup :goodpost
this sort of ppl seem to understand only "authority, fines, lawsuit etc", and they seldom respond to any kind of "baby-talk", "pep-talk", "suggestions" and "educating info" and stuff like that. Unfortunately, most of the time, the kind of people who are receptive to "suggestions" is the kind of people who, usually, do not get engaged in these kinds of actions to begin with.
Peter] It'd be better if she had a lethal weapon or something that would only sting and not injure, so she could scare the animals off. [/COLOR]
I think that if someones's house is so opened up to the forest where any animal can move right in, you never can rid yourself of them simply by shooting them all. It's crazy where we live to think you can. She only opens the doors for others to move in. Her rafters on one whole side of her house where it meets the logs are opened up completely . She has no soffit boards at all. And of course, they don't use the room so the attic space above that room is full of critters. The house is 20 years old, so it's like when you have a couple of un-neutered cats and you don't pay attention until you have 500 cats and your house smells bad!
Well, I just talked with the DEP enforcement officer, and he was very nice, and he answered the questions I had about the 500 foot distance between houses, and although I am correct about the distance, ec. It is only for "guns" that are "high velocity" and there are several other guns that shoot pellets that are not considered High velocity and those can be shot within the 500 feet barrier, and also , I'm correct about squirrels having a season , he said that it is impossible to actually prosecute anybody because you need clear evidence which is hard to get. I could get it, but would probably have to have it on film ...
so I think my only way to maybe save a few squirrels here would be to buy her some of the repellent to spray on her wood in the openings to her attic and maybe give her a strobe light and a little radio to play to discourage the animals. Maybe I can play on her "statement" to me that she's an animal lover too".....And then I'll put off buying that new car for a few months and invest in some good camera equipment that is wireless. I have some trees where I could install a camera with a good shot of their yard and see what else she's aiming for. We have owls here, and other birds that the dep would be all over her for if she's shooting them. She is shooting at birds, so maybe...I can catch her doing in an animal that people do care about!
I said to the DEP officer that it sounds like I have to become a neighbor like the Gladys Kravitz on Bewitched. And he said, "yeah, Basically, that's the best way!"
I dont' know why they post all these laws that no body can enforce anyway!
rozdow
05-18-2011, 07:13 AM
If you buy camera equipment, I wonder if it would help or hurt if she knew you had it :dono I'd be afraid that she would shoot at it. Most birds are protected by the Federal Migratory Bird Act - we cannot even rehab them without a special federal permit. So if she is killing birds, she is now breaking federal laws!
Something tells me that even if you were able to evict the animals from her house, she would still shoot at wildlife - i think she is a mean-spirited kid!
I still like the "letter from an attorney" approach.
JakesLittlePrincess
05-18-2011, 07:17 AM
I thought it was a federal offense to disturb any wildlife. But then again I am fairly new to all this so please correct me if I am wrong. We have some kids around here that I am about to read the riot act to because they keep climbing in our trees and knocking nests down.
rozdow
05-18-2011, 07:56 AM
Probably should check with your state's environmental agency. With migratory birds, I would guess it is an offense. Are these kids trespassing? Do their parents know they do this?
If you buy camera equipment, I wonder if it would help or hurt if she knew you had it :dono I'd be afraid that she would shoot at it. Most birds are protected by the Federal Migratory Bird Act - we cannot even rehab them without a special federal permit. So if she is killing birds, she is now breaking federal laws!
Something tells me that even if you were able to evict the animals from her house, she would still shoot at wildlife - i think she is a mean-spirited kid!
I still like the "letter from an attorney" approach.
Well, the problem with the letter from the attorney is that unless I have actual proof of her shooting , more proof than just my word, then to threatening civil charges is useless. Like the DEP guy said, in the 20+ years, he's never seen anybody win a case like this in court, in never even makes it in. Generally because a officer isn't staking out properties to get the proof needed over the killing of squirrels. I remember years ago in northern VT trying to get somebody interested in arresting a man who was raising dogs for lab use, and he would just steal people's dogs to sell to the labs. In the 70's, no body cared in VT about dogs either! dept of agriculture was such a ill runned agency, nothing could ever get done. It was very aggravating because there were the laws against animal cruelties , but to actually get a conviction was impossible.
If I put out a camera, which I am seriously leaning towards doing just that, she won't see it! I think your right about her being a mean spirited kid. she's an angry girl.
My sister said that I could capture and bring all the squirrels that I love to her in NH. She lives in a great place with big trees out on 15 acres on a dead end off a dirt road. It would be perfect as they feed the birds, squirrels and even the little mice in the horse barn, but , I don't know that I could take them there and have them do well, because she also has a lot of wild squirrels there and they are so territorial that mine may get beaten up. I've heard that relocating them alot of times is almost like killing them.
rozdow
05-18-2011, 10:10 AM
Squirrels are territorial, but if there is enough space for everybody then it is generally OK.
Regarding the attorney letter, the reason that I mention it is because they know how to write them so they are intimidating and yet non-commital (I know this becasue my elderly parents have received a few from nasty neighbors, even though they have done absolutely nothing wrong - it's an intimidation thing).
rozdow
05-18-2011, 10:13 AM
Maybe the press would be interested - putting a safety spin on it somehow "teenager terrorizes neighbors with BB gun". She may be legally able to shoot that thing - but, once again, if she injures a child etc., the family will be liable.
well, I do agree that intimidation can work. I did already tell them that I have her videotaped shooting squirrels on my property. I really don't have that film footage. I wish I did, but I don't. But at this moment, they think I do. And I've seen her doing this, so she probably figures that I do have it filmed. It's no secret that I film a lot of the wildlife all the time.
So , we'll see. I haven't seen her out shooting since I spoke to the Mom two days ago and the cop paid them a visit warning her about shooting towards my property.
So I printed up information on how to discourage squirrels from entering your house, and I'll get them some of the ropel. Bring it over and try to maybe befriend this dingbat mother a little bit , but I feel like that may only be a temporary band-aid because her problem is her house is open for all the wilds to move in.
And I'm also researching cameras :) I like power of press also, although I think you have to not mention "squirrels" too much. People are so negative about squirrels in general. It's a crazy world!
stosh2010
05-18-2011, 12:21 PM
I think I will have to do like Jackie in Florida and destroy the weapons!!!
Please be careful--- I can see them trying to sue you fror trespassing and theft...
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This girl is absolutely acting out-- ( she could probably use a friend) maybe if you bought one of those bb/pellet targets --its a metal box that holds paper targets --she can shoot at something constructive...
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I doubt she will go along with this next one---BUT---
if you invited her over to feed your wilds...she would see the effects of her shooting and the injuries.to the squirrels...Shooting at squirrels is one thing--seeing a blinded animal can be a rude awakening.
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Another silly option---
How much would plywood and paint cost to seal up the open wall on her home....?? It would have to be cheaper that lawyers and Cameras !!! and it would be an AMAZING GOOD-WLL gesture...and might even keep the MYSTERY critters out of her attic.???
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Just thinking out loud....
Good Luck !
EDIT--on the air-gun web site --one of the targets available was a Metal SQUIRREL instead of the paper targets YIKES !!!!
I've thought of many of these same options. Killing them with kindness may be a good option on some levels.
to put money into their house to close it up is not something my husband would go for. He's retiring in a month, we have our own household projects. It would probably cost a few thousand over there to button it up correctly. Of course, I'm only going by what she said, I've not actually seen the point of entry. It may be that it isn't as bad and could get close up with simple cage wire...?? Which I have here if that is the case.
stosh2010
05-18-2011, 03:39 PM
I've thought of many of these same options. Killing them with kindness may be a good option on some levels.
to put money into their house to close it up is not something my husband would go for. He's retiring in a month, we have our own household projects. It would probably cost a few thousand over there to button it up correctly. Of course, I'm only going by what she said, I've not actually seen the point of entry. It may be that it isn't as bad and could get close up with simple cage wire...?? Which I have here if that is the case.
I had no idea it was that large a project...I was thinking temporary repair-just to restrict entry of critters-at best--4 sheets of plywood and 2 gallons of paint-
I didn't mean to suggest you should donate that kind of $$$$$
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msquizzle
05-18-2011, 04:06 PM
God I would love to reinstate corporal punishment in schools, sometimes... however, I have a thought, though its definitely time and effort intensive:
Perhaps try the route of making the acquaintance of the girl/mother. Maybe ask them over for some coffee, or better yet go out to coffee with them. If possible, avoid all talk of the squirrels while out.
Eventually head home and show them your furballs... Not necessarily in the "look what you're killing" manner, but more the "look how interesting and enlightening these creatures are" kind of way.
This kind of follows the line of thought of Sammysmom, in that it aims to change the "just squirrels" to "sweet squirrels" in the kid's mind. Talk about how you are a rehabber and (If you had the patience to deal with an insolent child) offer to have her come help you with them on a weekend or something? Educate her in why you are led to believe that the pest aren't squirrels too, if possible, and maybe offer to help critter-proof the house if she would be so kind as to quit killing/maiming/injuring the wildlife.
Total pacifism might work with this kid, as the threats just egg her on, it seems. If it actually worked, you might be able to educate some ignoramuses too! I know its totally idealistic, but what the heck?
Well, one good thing about teenagers is that they grow up. It's usually a 2 year period in which they are reckless and think the world is about them only.
I noticed earlier in the day there was a new squirrel board member that was viewing my thread here, I saw it as I scrolled down and the new members name was teenager_with_AWESOME_gun And then another SB member brought that again to my attention in which I thought...hmm ...interesting.
I tried to see about sending a message to this new member, but that option was blocked.
I suspect this new member feels differently than I which I assume just from the SB name that they picked out to be a member. But unless you actually give your time to the rescue of wildlife, you probably don't care nor have a clue of what is involved .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6lTPQE5pRY
the little squirrel at the end of the movie is still with me, but he's blinded in one eye now...due to a BB/Pellet gun. He's 4 years old.
teenager_with_AWESOME_gun
05-19-2011, 02:52 PM
I have read through your post and alothough my name is teenager_with_AWESOME_gun I am not the girl you are speaking of in this post i did view it because of the title of the post, Teenagers with High pressure, or BB guns, because as you know I am a teenager and i do have a gun, but i don't use it in the way this girl does.
Sorry to cause any confusion, good luck with that situation.
thank you so much for clarifying:) I really appreciate that. I have no problems with guns when you use them correctly. And I also was a teenager also many years ago with a gun as well, and still do have guns.
The last few days, the minute this little idiot next door gets off her bus, she grabs her gun and is out shooting....and it looks like she's just shooting without really taking any time to even aim at anything. She is certainly doing this for effect. She even will look towards my house in between shots just to see if I'm watching! I wished I would of never said a word, because this has opened up a whole new level of killing . I think she's definitely has hit something, as I can smell that smell of death in the yard, whether it's coming from hers or my back yard, I'm not positive but tomorrow, I will check it out once they leave, and take photo's if I find anything. :shakehead :shakehead :shakehead
I do think that in life, when you are just mean, it comes back at you at some point in life when you least expect it. So they may want to kill everything in their yard rather than close up the gaps in their house, justice certainly would be if the house burns down because the squirrels/mice/ ec chew through their wires. I can pray!
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