Baytril chews

[Mujo]

Has anyone tried using these enrofloxacin chews on squirrels?

They come in peanut butter flavor. I tried to get a cost for them, but they won't tell you unless they have the prescription. If the price was reasonable, I was thinking of getting my vet to order it.

http://www.wedgewoodpetrx.com/items/enrofloxacin-chew-treat.html

[mugzeezma]

Has anyone tried using these enrofloxacin chews on squirrels?

They come in peanut butter flavor. I tried to get a cost for them, but they won't tell you unless they have the prescription. If the price was reasonable, I was thinking of getting my vet to order it.

http://www.wedgewoodpetrx.com/items/enrofloxacin-chew-treat.html
Not I
I've only used suspension
BUT
you can crush these and mix with water to put in suspension?
Is that what you were thinking?
or were you thinking of breaking pieces off

the dose is so small that you would be giving an inexact piece and there for dose...I have to look at it more closely and calculate but that's my opinion for the time being. I could be very wrong here.

seeing that the smallest dose is 5mg and the dose rate is 5-10mg/kg and a one pound squirrel is .45kg...you would be breaking them apart and quantity would be hard to maintain :dono

[island rehabber]

Yes, sounds like a great idea except that squirrel doses for Baytril are so infernally small. 0.05 - 0.07 ml, how would you dose that...:thinking!

[Mujo]

I guess I was hoping a 5mg dose once a day would be okay for a wild adult squirrel who has an large abscess around her right jaw. A local rehab person told me she probably doesn't have much time left unless we can trap her & for complicated reasons, trapping is not an option.

I've been feeding her every day & she's still eating. This has been ongoing for around 2 weeks now and I keep thinking she's near the end, but she keeps showing up.

Yesterday, the abscess looked odd & it might actually be draining. Will try to get a better look today.

She's gotten bigger since I've been feeding her peanut nuggets & might be over 1 pound in weight. Lately, I've added small pieces of mandarin oranges and she really gobbled them up. Figured some vit. C might help her along with more liquid.

Am new to this forum, so I apologize if this is the wrong place to post this.

[CritterMom]

So if I have mugzie right, a squirrel in the 1 pound or a little over range would be a half a pill? Is that right?

For a wild, honestly, I would give it a shot. I would grind it up, mix with a little peanut butter, and smear it on a pecan half. It WILL be eaten.

[Jackie in Tampa]

if she is really bad, shipping after finding a vet for a script may be too late...ask friends what ABs they have on hand that are fresh....
we can help with dosing.
wow, I like the chews, never knew they existed...cool!:thumbsup
hang in there little sq:Love_Icon

[Mujo]

A friend managed to get a vet to give her some amoxicillin to mix up, but when I researched the dosing, I read amoxicillin isn't good for squirrels. It was confusing since I have also read of some folks giving it to squirrels. I also don't think it's as effective as Baytril and don't want to risk giving her another health issue to deal with (gastroenteritis).

See: http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-4861.html

[Jackie in Tampa]

yeah, we don't recommend cillins:shakehead
however...when it's death or a tummy ache..welll.....:Love_Icon

[Mujo]

Well, I'm on my way to feed her. Hope she comes so I can get a good look at that abscess. I've been trying to train her to come when I use my whistle (quietly, to avoid attracting attention).

[mugzeezma]

So if I have mugzie right, a squirrel in the 1 pound or a little over range would be a half a pill? Is that right?

For a wild, honestly, I would give it a shot. I would grind it up, mix with a little peanut butter, and smear it on a pecan half. It WILL be eaten.

NONONONO
ONLY if it's a 5mg pill would you give a fraction of it...I'd have to do the math to be sure.

Amox will work fine but be sure to mix in a probiotic like yogurt with each dose

you also have to give it 2xs daily for at least 7-10 DAYS for an abscess probably the full ten...on a wild this well be difficult.

[island rehabber]

this might be one of those situations where Covenia, although not terrifically effective on rodents, is a good AB because it only has to be given once or twice.....

[Mujo]

Was about to give up since only the boy squirrels seem to respond to my whistle, when "Abby" appeared.:bowdown

The abscess is draining from under her right ear and her right eye looked almost normal (!). The swelling is much reduced and she was really into eating the peanut nuggets (pushed the orange pieces aside and ignored the arugula).

She's bigger than any of the two small males that live nearby (they might be her sons?). Her tummy is so fat, I can't tell if her mammary glands are swollen. I guess I've been over-feeding her.

She looked so much better, I'm very optimistic she can beat this. If she can beat this on her own, I would prefer going that route since I'm uncertain if I'll be around long enough to complete the dosing (family emergency in the wings right now & I might have to leave town).

[Jackie in Tampa]

:thumbsup glad to hear the abcess is draining...most wilds have good strong immune systems, especially if they are being human supplimented with yummies :D
Get Well fast Abby!:alright.gif

just a tip, when treating wilds with ABs, a double dose once a day will work..been there and have done it for years!:)

sorry to hear about 'family emergency':grouphug good luck.

:Welcome :wave123
:poke we love pics!!!

[Mujo]

No change in size of abscess since yesterday. The drainage appeared to have stopped, but some swelling remains.

Tried to post photo, but don't think it's working.

https://picasaweb.google.com/110235350545040722669/Abby?authkey=Gv1sRgCNGUjbuZ4Jy6RQ#


https://picasaweb.google.com/110235350545040722669/Abby?authkey=Gv1sRgCNGUjbuZ4Jy6RQ#

She's a Big girl! Maybe I should cut back on the peanut nuggets.

[vdyhogan]

I would give her a double dose of antibioctics of any kind that you have, In this type of situation waiting is not an option, I have dealt with too many with wounds around the head area and that is a nasty place to heal at, Tummy upset is better than death! she might be pregnant I am not sure of your areas baby season but she has to have some antibioctics to help her immune system out, keep up the meds for at minimal ten days if possible but if you have to leave at least go ahead and start them and upon return start them over again so she gets a full ten days in,

Any wound in the head area that does heal up and swelling gone and all looks good do NOT let it make you think it is gone it is NOT!! Time and time again I have seen this and the infection is still there and will reappear fast, I have had to keep some on antibioctics for way longer than the 10 days and had to go thru another complete round of antibioctics, like I said head wounds are the worse to heal but she will with a little bit of human intervention and trust me she does need it from the pics I saw, try to get some of just the wound if you can zoom way in to that it would help.

I know other rehabbers will agree and some disagree but I am just giving my opionion here and trying to help out one of gods creatures and hope my advise helps her out!!

Thanks for the information on the chews that is an excellent idea!! If you have one of them in the 5mg, I would dose her this way if she was in my care, I would break it into 4 eqaul parts; give her one fourth for the first dose and then break your remaining 3 pieces into six peices and dose her that way, of once a day until gone and then see what the wound looks like!

I had an adult same type a fox squirrel that a cat had attacked and her wound was at the head and neck area that was brought into rehab, and done pretty much the same as far as the drainage but it stopped but it had scabbed over and the infection was very much active and still there, I continued to give antibioctics for 10 days and she was doing great and within three to four days the swelling came back and I started another round of antibioctics on her, of which at that time I did not have any baytril and used clavamox and it was not strong enough to cure her, but the second round seemed to have worked on her and I stopped and she was progressing nicely and then without warning took another turn for the worst and the infection had returned and then I gave her an injection of baytril and this time it cured her and she survived, My vet did not want to use the baytril he wanted the milder dose and with an unknown as to what caused this I would go with cat attack and be agresive in dosing her.

Please keep posting updates and pics if possible, hope your emergency turns out with good news,

[vdyhogan]

I would give her a double dose of antibioctics of any kind that you have, In this type of situation waiting is not an option, I have dealt with too many with wounds around the head area and that is a nasty place to heal at, Tummy upset is better than death! she might be pregnant I am not sure of your areas baby season but she has to have some antibioctics to help her immune system out, keep up the meds for at minimal ten days if possible but if you have to leave at least go ahead and start them and upon return start them over again so she gets a full ten days in,

Any wound in the head area that does heal up and swelling gone and all looks good do NOT let it make you think it is gone it is NOT!! Time and time again I have seen this and the infection is still there and will reappear fast, I have had to keep some on antibioctics for way longer than the 10 days and had to go thru another complete round of antibioctics, like I said head wounds are the worse to heal but she will with a little bit of human intervention and trust me she does need it from the pics I saw, try to get some of just the wound if you can zoom way in to that it would help.

I know other rehabbers will agree and some disagree but I am just giving my opionion here and trying to help out one of gods creatures and hope my advise helps her out!!

Thanks for the information on the chews that is an excellent idea!! If you have one of them in the 5mg, I would dose her this way if she was in my care, I would break it into 4 eqaul parts; give her one fourth for the first dose and then break your remaining 3 pieces into six peices and dose her that way, of once a day until gone and then see what the wound looks like!

I had an adult same type a fox squirrel that a cat had attacked and her wound was at the head and neck area that was brought into rehab, and done pretty much the same as far as the drainage but it stopped but it had scabbed over and the infection was very much active and still there, I continued to give antibioctics for 10 days and she was doing great and within three to four days the swelling came back and I started another round of antibioctics on her, of which at that time I did not have any baytril and used clavamox and it was not strong enough to cure her, but the second round seemed to have worked on her and I stopped and she was progressing nicely and then without warning took another turn for the worst and the infection had returned and then I gave her an injection of baytril and this time it cured her and she survived, My vet did not want to use the baytril he wanted the milder dose and with an unknown as to what caused this I would go with cat attack and be agresive in dosing her.

Please keep posting updates and pics if possible, hope your emergency turns out with good news,