babies found!

[fire-eyez]

hello someone contacted me about a squirrels nest that was found when they had people come to do tree work.. please pm asap so i can tell you more about it i cant take them in because I am in school know...there are 2 baby squirrels older then 5 weeks (eyes are opened) thanks

[momma2boo]

What part of Florida are you in?

[fire-eyez]

saint cloud fl close to kissimme/orlando

[starfairy]

I'm in kissimmee. But at work. My daughter can pick them up for me. She lives in st cloud

[momma2boo]

Ok Kiddo ... hang tight.

Did they put the nest at the bottom of a tree and keep an eye on it to see if momma would come back for them? Chances are she will but they must be watched closely so that predators don't get ahold of them.

If they have tried this and momma didn't come back for them then it looks as though we are looking at orphans.

I will contact our Florida TSB'ers and find someone who can take them.

[momma2boo]

I'm in kissimmee. But at work. My daughter can pick them up for me. She lives in st cloud

That's awesome.

I hope they've at least tried to see if momma would come back for them.

[fire-eyez]

the thing is they are still out there doing yard work idk would she come back? can someone pm me their number so i can explain on phone

[starfairy]

Just pm'ed my number.

[momma2boo]

She should still come back but it wouldn't hurt if they would all just stop for a little bit. Tell them to take lunch. This will increase the chances of momma coming back for them.

Heading out to my parents' house to give my mother & sister their weekly shower and "beauty treatment". I will check in from time to time.

[starfairy]

Just talked to the lady. Said the nest was pretty tore up but they tryed to fix it. They are leaving for the day and don't want to leave them alone while they are gone. So I gave them my daughters number and I believe she will be taking them to her. I will let you know as soon as I find out anything more.

[fire-eyez]

Just talked to the lady. Said the nest was pretty tore up but they tryed to fix it. They are leaving for the day and don't want to leave them alone while they are gone. So I gave them my daughters number and I believe she will be taking them to her. I will let you know as soon as I find out anything more.



thanks for taking them in

[starfairy]

thanks for taking them in
Thanks for posting so quick.:thumbsup

[Gina]

I love a good rescue, can't wait to see these new TSB babies and will pray for their health in the meantime.:Love_Icon

[starfairy]

My daughter just called me. They are meeting her with the babies. Does anyone in the orlando area have any fox valley that I could buy or borrow until I can order some. I probably could have it overnighted but it still will be to long.:sad

[momma2boo]

I will be at my parents' house the entire afternoon and evening. They live in Edgewater. I can bring some FV with me should you want to meet me.

PM me for my phone number should you wish to do this.

[momma2boo]

I will be at my parents' house the entire afternoon and evening. They live in Edgewater. I can bring some FV with me should you want to meet me.

PM me for my phone number should you wish to do this.

Ok ... a care package is being put together for the babies.

*FV formula
*Crushed Rodent Block & nuts
*2 - 1 cc syringes
*2 - 3 cc syringes
*2 - 5 cc syringes
*2 silicon nipples

We will meet up with Star when she is done work.

Yay! :multi :multi :multi F.A.R.T. to the rescue again! All it takes is a little gas!

[djarenspace9]

YAY TEAM F.A.R.T.!!!!!

:wahoo

[NutmegsMommy]

I'm sorry...I have to chime in here - how much time did you give Momma to come back for the babies? When I was called about nest of babies on the ground due to tree trimmers, it took about an hour before Momma came back. I set the nest at the tree stump and hid - I was close enough to shoo away predators, but far away enough for Momma to feel safe enough to come and retrieve her young. She wants those babies.

After having Wheezie here and going through all of the baby stuff, I can tell you without a doubt that the Momma's grieve when their babies are taken away. I would suggest taking those babies back and try and reunite with Momma - ASAP.

[starfairy]

Ok ... a care package is being put together for the babies.

*FV formula
*Crushed Rodent Block & nuts
*2 - 1 cc syringes
*2 - 3 cc syringes
*2 - 5 cc syringes
*2 silicon nipples

We will meet up with Star when she is done work.

Yay! :multi :multi :multi F.A.R.T. to the rescue again! All it takes is a little gas!
Thanks again m2b I was looking at my GPS and I think if I go 528 to 95 that might be alittle closer. What do.you think?

[starfairy]

I'm sorry...I have to chime in here - how much time did you give Momma to come back for the babies? When I was called about nest of babies on the ground due to tree trimmers, it took about an hour before Momma came back. I set the nest at the tree stump and hid - I was close enough to shoo away predators, but far away enough for Momma to feel safe enough to come and retrieve her young. She wants those babies.

After having Wheezie here and going through all of the baby stuff, I can tell you without a doubt that the Momma's grieve when their babies are taken away. I would suggest taking those babies back and try and reunite with Momma - ASAP.
The lady was leaving for the day and didn't want to leave them alone. Do you think if we take them back tomorrow she still might come back? I know that the best place for them is with momma. I haven't seen them in person yet but from the pic my daughter sent me. They look older then 5 weeks.

[momma2boo]

I completely agree that momma squirrel is the best option but I also believe that someone should be there to ensure they are safe until she does. If no one is there I would hate to find out a preditor got them when they could've been saved.

I don't know if momma will come back tomorrow. I am clueless as to how long would be too long before Momma gave up looking for them.

Can you daughter hang out there long enough to see if Momma will return for them before bringing them to you?

P.S. I've made you some boo ball instead of just giving you the ingredients... it will be ready to feed by the time you get it.

[stepnstone]

I'm sorry...I have to chime in here - how much time did you give Momma to come back for the babies? When I was called about nest of babies on the ground due to tree trimmers, it took about an hour before Momma came back. I set the nest at the tree stump and hid - I was close enough to shoo away predators, but far away enough for Momma to feel safe enough to come and retrieve her young. She wants those babies.
After having Wheezie here and going through all of the baby stuff, I can tell you without a doubt that the Momma's grieve when their babies are taken away. I would suggest taking those babies back and try and reunite with Momma - ASAP.

Enlighten me here, I have read...
#1. If it's been over 2 hours chances are momma's not coming back for them.
#2. If babies are cold, momma won't retrieve them.
#3. If it's dark/night, momma won't retrieve them.

Opinions?? :thinking

[starfairy]

I completely agree that momma squirrel is the best option but I also believe that someone should be there to ensure they are safe until she does. If no one is there I would hate to find out a preditor got them when they could've been saved.

I don't know if momma will come back tomorrow. I am clueless as to how long would be too long before Momma gave up looking for them.

Can you daughter hang out there long enough to see if Momma will return for them before bringing them to you?

P.S. I've made you some boo ball instead of just giving you the ingredients... it will be ready to feed by the time you get it.
The lady lives in a gated community and met my daughter in town. I know what community but not where the house is. Now I am torn because they should be with momma but what if. I didn't call and a predater(sp) got them. I keep picturing momma looking and crying for her babies. What should I do? I don't think she wants them back because I offered to have them released back on her property when they were ready and she said oh no we have plenty of squirrels here.:dono

[momma2boo]

The lady lives in a gated community and met my daughter in town. I know what community but not where the house is. Now I am torn because they should be with momma but what if. I didn't call and a predater(sp) got them. I keep picturing momma looking and crying for her babies. What should I do? I don't think she wants them back because I offered to have them released back on her property when they were ready and she said oh no we have plenty of squirrels here.:dono

It sounds to me like being raised and released by you is their safest option right now. They may have scared momma so badly that she won't return.

There is no sense worrying now about the what ifs ... let's now concentrate on their well being and eventual release.

Thank you for taking them and offering them a safe place to finish growing.

Julie

[Tickle's Mom]

Enlighten me here, I have read...
#1. If it's been over 2 hours chances are momma's not coming back for them.
#2. If babies are cold, momma won't retrieve them.
#3. If it's dark/night, momma won't retrieve them.

Opinions?? :thinking

I only know about #2....If babies are cold, no squirrel will retrieve. Will only take warm has been my understanding and experience.

[NutmegsMommy]

Momma will take them back - even tomorrow, but I would try for today. Someone just needs to put aside some time and see if Momma comes back for the babies. You might have to make some crying sounds too - to attract her if the babies aren't making noise. She's freaked out right now - her nest got torn up, but trust me, she wants those babies back.

[island rehabber]

You can try for up to 3 days, I've heard, to reunite with mamma. But I agree it was the wisest thing to take them in NOW because (especially in FL) there are just too many predators from the land and the air that will get them, and the homeowners were not going to be there.

[NutmegsMommy]

I'm sorry, but I strongly suggest the babies go back to their mother. Someone needs to explain to the homeowner the situation and perhaps she will have a heart and let the person bring the babies back and place them at or near the tree where the nest was and give Momma some time to get them back. If the person sits at a safe distance, it should be fine for Momma to show up and to keep an eye out for predators. Yes there are predators, but it's possible to spot them ahead of time and shoo them off. This can be done, I've done it before - it just takes some time and patience. It's the right thing to do. DO NOT LEAVE THE BABIES UNATTENDED - stay at a safe distance and watch for Momma, make crying sounds if you have to. I'm a strong advocate for reuniting babies with Momma unless they are sick or injured. She left the nest because it was destroyed and really deserves the right to have her babies back - she's scared. Put yourself in her shoes- loud machines, her home destroyed. It will take sometime for her to feel safe enough to come back, but she will. Please give her the babies back.

[Tickle's Mom]

If you hold the baby by it's back leg, it will make a little sound and momma, or another squirrel, may come to get it. I have done that once before, on advice from my vet, and it worked. The babies need to be warm though and it does not hurt to hold it upside down for the short time it takes to squeak.

[momma2boo]

I think we all agree that momma squirrel is the babies' best option however they couldn't be left out there alone. If StarFairy or her daughter can make it back tomorrow that would be great but if they are unable then there are only two choices ... 1) put them out there by themselves without any supervision (too risky if you ask me) 2) keep them and finish raising them and set them free.

In a perfect world they would be with their mom but unfortunately it is a far cry from perfect. So we do what we can with what we have. Right now they are warm, full, and safe. Worry about tomorrow when tomorrow comes. If it is possible to bring them back to see if momma is looking for her babies then I agree that would be a good idea. Be sure they are in a box with warm fleece around them so that they don't get a chill or get out and take off without momma supervision. However, if no one is able to go back to where their nest was distroyed then the next best thing is for them to be raised by their humans.

[starfairy]

If anyone wants to volunteer to try to reunite them with there momma just pm me and I will be more than happy to give them that chance. I will give you the ladies phone number and the address where they can be picked up. I am off to bed but will give you the info in the morning. Actually I will be checking the board all night. So you will have plenty of time to get here and get them reunited as quickly as possible.:thumbsup

[NutmegsMommy]

**Teeth Chattering**

Ok, maybe I am reading what you wrote wrong, but that came off a bit selfish and rude. Is there anyone in that area who can step up and help these babies get back with their Momma if the ladies who have the babies can't or won't make the time? I am in Tampa and I have a premature baby I am caring for and can't do it - everyone on the board knows this, otherwise I would do it in a heartbeat!

[starfairy]

I am in school al day until 815 this evening. My daughters husband has the truck for work today. So I AM NOT SELFISH. I was trying to help out considering the tree trimmer was just going to throw them in the back of there truck. Which I assume he meant the chipper. So think what you like (everyone has there own opinion) BUT I feel like I saved there lives and no one is going to make me feel otherwise.

[momma2boo]

Ok ... everyone take a breath.

Starfairy: Thank you so very much for saving these precious babies' lives. Without your willingness to drop what you were doing and get them, not to mention driving all the way up to Edgewater to get the supplies from me to ensure they ate last night, they would surely be dead by now.

NutmegMommy: I understand your need for them to be with their mom especially since you are a new mommy yourself and I am sure you're more emotionally tied to the feeling of needing your baby with you. However, like I said before ... in a perfect world these babies would be back with their momma but given the hand they were dealt and who was available to save them I am comfortable with how this all played out.

I am certain that Starfairy's intent is to ensure they survive, thrive, and live free among the trees.

Let's not forget TSB'ers ... we are all here with the same purpose, to save squirrels.

[starfairy]

I am on a 45 minute break between classes. I want to clarify a few thing here before I really get pissed. Tree trimmers tore up the tree that these little one were in. They asked the if they should just throw them on the back of the truck. Of course the lady said no. She didn't know what to do so she called petsmart. Petsmart gave them fire-eyes number. (Thanks for giving your number to petsmart.) Since my daughter lives in the same town. I offered to care for them. The lady that had them DID NOT WANT THEM LEFT THERE. If she did she wouldn't have called petsmart. Anyways I would love for them to be reunite with there momma. I can just picture her looking all over for them. THAT'S WHY I WAS HOPING SOMEONE WOULD OFFER TO HELP. Geez I've traveled from Kissimmee to ocala to jacksonville to tampa to help out. Just saying........
Oh and for all of you who care about how they are doing. Well they are eating like little pigs and I'm sure they miss momma but they do have the next best thing. Me and daughter.

[momma2boo]

I am on a 45 minute break between classes. I want to clarify a few thing here before I really get pissed. Tree trimmers tore up the tree that these little one were in. They asked the if they should just throw them on the back of the truck. Of course the lady said no. She didn't know what to do so she called petsmart. Petsmart gave them fire-eyes number. (Thanks for giving your number to petsmart.) Since my daughter lives in the same town. I offered to care for them. The lady that had them DID NOT WANT THEM LEFT THERE. If she did she wouldn't have called petsmart. Anyways I would love for them to be reunite with there momma. I can just picture her looking all over for them. THAT'S WHY I WAS HOPING SOMEONE WOULD OFFER TO HELP. Geez I've traveled from Kissimmee to ocala to jacksonville to tampa to help out. Just saying........
Oh and for all of you who care about how they are doing. Well they are eating like little pigs and I'm sure they miss momma but they do have the next best thing. Me and daughter.

:thumbsup So happy to hear they are eating. I know you were concerned about them last night.

[stepnstone]

@ starfairy, ~ Breathe ~

I'm sorry you had to get stressed over this situation, your devotion to ensure these little babies survive was and is very apparent even to this novice.
I'm sure the majority on TSB shares this opinion, I personally want to thank you for your time and effort and appreciate your update on these little fur babies. :thankyou :grouphug

[UDoWhat]

Starfairy I completely agree with momma2boo (post#30) and stepnstone (post#37). You are doing a perfect job. I think we all agree that it would be wonderful if momma squirrel could have them back BUT, better safe than sorry. Go with your gut. Thank you for saving these babies.

Marty,

stepnstone, in my experience, I have had a momma squirrel take back her babies after 4 days . The man that brought them to me called and said momma was coming back to his patio checking the nest. So I camped out on his patio for 9 hours . She did take them all back but it is a risky move. Some say there are milk "drying up" problems after that long .

[djarenspace9]

:thankyou

Thank you Starfairy for being AS ALWAYS such a kind heart!

I have no doubt you will do your best to fill in for mama squirrel.

I do understand where NutmegsMom is coming from,
because in my work volunteering at a wildlife center
there have been many times where reuniting the babies with their mama
was not given any priority, and it could have kept them in their natural habitat.

We have the same problem with baby birds in the spring,
when the fledglings are learning to fly.
I can't tell you how many babies are bird-napped by well-meaning
yet uninformed individuals!

We ALWAYS ask people to try first, but I think if that 3rd party is not willing
or able, it's best not to put the baby at risk.

There are so many "what-if's" to consider...at the end of the day
you made the best judgment call based on the situation on hand.

PS. Where's the pics??? :tilt

[stepnstone]

stepnstone, in my experience, I have had a momma squirrel take back her babies after 4 days . The man that brought them to me called and said momma was coming back to his patio checking the nest. So I camped out on his patio for 9 hours . She did take them all back but it is a risky move. Some say there are milk "drying up" problems after that long .

I don't remember what site I was on when I read what I did about momma (not) coming back but I had wondered about it.

When I found my babies it was night and raining, one had already been dead awhile on the curb as it had rigor, one I found under a pile of wet leaves. Annie was on the sidewalk. They were all of course wet and cold.
I could see the nest had collapsed and had thought about putting them in a bucket the next day and hang it right below the nest but it continued
to rain for the next two days. I looked for activity around that tree for at least a week and never saw anything. Suppose I just need to believe I did
the right thing by taking them in.

[fire-eyez]

:thankyou i want to personally thank you stairfairy YOU were the first to and only one to pm your number and take over the huge task...'m sorry i have not been on the thread I have been studying for biochem :( which is why i knew i wouldn't do as great of a job as you will right now...i thank you and if you need anything or anyone else here on tsb let me know i will be glad to help anyone :) :D

[djarenspace9]

Likewise, fire-eyez, keep me on your list.
I am in Orlando and willing to do what I can, when I can! :wave123

Right now I can't commit to raising any babies, but always
her to help with in-between care or transporting.

[Mrs Skul]

Hi SatrFairy:wave123
How are the little ones doing? Where are the Pictures! :D
:worthless :poke

[starfairy]

Sorry I haven't updated sooner but I am really busy with school and work. My daughter is taken care of them. One boy and one girl. She calls them Fred and Ethel. For some reason my camera will not take a good pic. (I guess it's time for a new one) I will upload what I have so far. They are eating really good and seem to be thriving. They are starting to nibble on Henry's healthy blocks and Boo balls.

[stepnstone]

How precious!! Obviously you both are doing a great job. :thumbsup

[starfairy]

How precious!! Obviously you both are doing a great job. :thumbsup
Thank you stepnstone. I have someone that is supposed to call me tomorrow about another squirrel. I don't know anything about him/her except that she needs to find it a home. As soon as I find out anything I will let everyone know whats going on.

[asweetdiversion]

OHHHHHH, they are so cute. 130261