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stepnstone
12-15-2010, 01:28 PM
Hello members. I'll start off by apologizing for the length of this but in the end hope that I'll get some insight as to what may have happened and what expectations I can have.

On a rainy evening walk with my dog I found a baby squirrel crawling on the sidewalk, rushed her home, dried her and put her on a heating pad. Went back out to see where she could have come from. Discovered a collapsed nest, a deceased one (w/rigor) at the curb and after shifting through the grass, another live one.

I first tried to contact several rehabilitators. Only reply to phone calls or emails was one from a squirrel rescue that said: This time of year many baby squirrels are orphaned and if you do not receive a reply it may be because they (rehabilitators) are filled up. Knowing I was not going to allow them to simply die, I went on line and assessed every piece of information I could find. I placed their ages between 4-5 weeks, both females. Started syringe feeding them Esbilac per guidelines, graduated them to bottle feedings, then the dish. Gave them bits of fruit & veggies when suggested then the soft nuts and up to their cracking and eating hard shelled nuts. Provided them with a large (inside) cage complete with food & water station, nesting box, branches for climbing top to bottom and sideways. Also built large outside cage complete with all of the above and would let them out there on warmer sunny days. (Stopped that when the weather turned cold.) I Sterilized eating stations everyday, cleaned cage bottoms everyday, total cage and bedding every 3rd day. They were fat, healthy, very active and progressing in everyway according to their growth charts. Now somewhere between 12-13 weeks of age, my desire was to graduate them to a (soft) release come spring. Although they were "forging" and burying nuts in the bottom of their cage, I didn't feel they would have developed the skills needed to survive being set out at first winter.

The night before, both were active, eating and playing as usual. Came down in the morning and found one of my babies dead in her nesting box, I was devastated to say the least! I looked for signs of injury, swelling, choking. I could find nothing to explain it. The house is quiet at night, none of my other animals (cats/dogs) come in or allowed contact with the squirrels and are closed in with us upstairs at night. I buried her along side her deceased sibling.

The following morning I came down to check on my surviving baby. She came right out of her nesting box to great me as usual, as I watched her she went to her food dish, grabbed a nut and started to crack it. All of a sudden she stretched out, stiffened up and fell from the branch. I immediately reached in and took her out and laid her on the counter. She was stiff as a board, eyes wide open, her body had a slight tremor. I started rubbing and massaging her, she went limp and her body "relieved" itself, I couldn't feel a heart beat. I started light compressions to her chest, still massaging her. After what seemed like forever, her eyes slowly blinked, her heart was racing. I kept massaging her until it slowed it's pace then I wrapped her in a towel, held her close to my body for warmth. I held her for six hours, she licked water from my fingers. When she started to move around I put her in a pet carrier to keep her safe, level and quiet.
1st day- Sleeping, not eating, I made her take water by bottle. She would swallow with no problem. 2nd day- Sleeping, still not eating, put her back on Esbilac to get some nourishment in her. 3rd day- Moving around a little, Esbilic & hand fed fruit, 4th day- More active, starting to eat soft nuts on her own. 5th day- After reconstructing her cage, nesting box with larger branches and platforms I moved her back in so she can exercise her limbs. She responded very well, getting more active with movement. Eating, drinking, grooms herself, still sleeps a lot.

In the beginning after her "accident" her front hands/paws were clinched/balled. They have straightened out but it don't appear the fingers have completely. (Kind of looks like mine with arthritis.) She is able to hold nuts and other things. Her hind quarters or legs also appear to be compromised or weak. When she walks she does a little hopping motion kind of like a raccoon does. She does climb up and down the branches but not with the agility or speed as before. It's only been 6 days but I'm hoping for more improvement with time. I do realize if she does not make a full recovery a total release will not be possible for her survival, I'm prepared for that and will continue to care for her. I feel as if she had some sort of heart attack/stroke. What I can't wrap my head around is why something happened to both of the girls within a day of each other. I'm open to suggestions and or input.

Thanks for reading. ~stepnstone~

squillgurl
12-15-2010, 02:01 PM
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Welcome to TSB, I wish you had found us much sooner. I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your baby.
I am NOT a rehabber, but from what you have said and what I have learned from this board and its members, it sounds like your little girls ha(d)ve MBD. This is an emergency! She needs calcium, NOW. If you have any fruit flavored tums, see if you can get her to take some. There are links here for emergency treatment and also for squirrel nutrition.


http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21235

http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20629


http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16093


Here are a few good links, the first is the emergency treatment. Im sure the rehabbers and other more knowledgeable members will be with you soon.
Good luck!
I'll keep you and your little one in my prayers :grouphug

pappy1264
12-15-2010, 02:02 PM
This sounds like MBD (which can cause seizures, which is what you just described.) You need to start her on the emergency treatment for this. (I will grab the link and put it here....). Keep her on heat. BRB. Thanks squillgurl, beat me to it!

squillgurl
12-15-2010, 02:15 PM
:thumbsup

CritterMom
12-15-2010, 02:32 PM
It does sound like MBD. It commonly strikes after they have weaned if they are not being supplemented with calcium or being fed a rodent block. The calcium in the formula protects them when they are nursing, but if they go right to nuts when they wean, they will get this.

As you have been told, it is imperative to get not only calcium, but vitamin D and magnesium into them immediately. We don't much like esbilac, but if they are tolerating it, it does have the D and magnesium in addition to some calcium. For the first few days, you want to get 500mg of calcium into her, spread out through the day. Provide a heating pad for her as well; it is a painful condition and the heat seems to be soothing for them. Try to prevent her from climbing - modify the cage, move her to a smaller one, whatever - the bones are brittle now and she doesn't need a fracture on top of everything else.

stepnstone
12-15-2010, 03:28 PM
Everyday I've been at the computer looking for squirrel information, outside of how to get rid of them it's been limited. I wish I had found this site sooner too!!
Thanks for the information, getting ready to admin. her 1st calcium. Getting her housing restricted and on heat. Going to look up and read more on the condition.
I said esbilac as it was the only word I remembered but the actual replacment milk she was on is GNC ultra mega weaning formula. Any thoughts on that?
Going to have to order squirrel blocks, can't seem to find any in my area. I'm unclear how long and if I have to continue giving her calcium after she starts getting the blocks??

CritterMom
12-15-2010, 04:00 PM
Read this:http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17680

She will need to be additionally supplemented with calcium for a while, and don't expect her to fall in love with the blocks right away, either.

What you are going to be feeding is actually formulated for rats, which have similar nutritional needs. I know that Petsmart sells a rat block called Mazuri. Most pet shops carry Kaytee Forti-diet for rats and mice, and while it isn't the best, it is acceptable. Harlan Teklad can be ordered from www.craftyrat.com; you want the lab blocks. Henrys Pets is owned by a TSB member; she sells a home made block that most of the squirrels like - it is pricier than the others, but it may get her eating block faster than the commercial types. She is at www.henryspets.com. She also sells the formula that is really what is recommended for squirrels - Fox Valley - very reasonably priced, too. I don't know anything about the GNC formula. If you can get her to start taking formula again, preferably the Fox Valley, you are way ahead of the game, because it is such a good, complete diet. Many of us use the Fox Valley powder, ground rodent block, ground nuts and a wetting agent like applesauce or baby food to make a food we call Boo Balls after one of our more famous squirrels. Equal parts of the first three and enough applesauce to make a soft dough, roll into little balls. You can serve them as is, nice and soft, or bake at an hour at 250 to dry them slightly.

stepnstone
12-15-2010, 09:42 PM
Thank you! Gave my little girl her first calcium fix as suggested, she took her dose with no problem. She's loving the heated nest...
Noticed tonight when I had her out her fingers have strightened out, I'm really encouraged! With all suggestions/ideas I hope to see even more improvment. Thanks again, ~stepnstone~

squillgurl
12-16-2010, 01:29 AM
:thumbsup I hope so too! Keep us posted on her progress, and I don't think anyone has yet mentioned...we love, and strongly request, pictures :poke :D
Make sure you keep treatment up, even when she shows improvements, please don't stop. Like CritterMom said, it is a long term deal and if you stop too soon, she will likely relapse. Get her on the healthy diet...lots of veggies, not so many nuts (those are treats), a good rat block of some kind.... and Im sure you will see positive changes ;)
So glad you found us when you did....better late than never!

Kristal
12-16-2010, 01:53 AM
I just thought I would chime in as I have been following another case of MBD on this board. It's important to keep the sick squirrel on increased calcium for many months and up to at least a year. You will see some improvement after a month or so, but the squirrels skeleton will still be very fragile. They need to stay on a balanced diet with extra calcium for a year for their bones to stregthen. Apparently a squirrel is never the same after a serious bout of MBD either :( It is a very serious condition.

So I just thought that it is important to mention that you are in it for the long haul. Don't let up on treatment as soon as you see improvement. I give my squirrels dried and cooked eggshells and bones to munch on in addition to squirrel cookies that I make with a lot of formula powder. Eggshells are a good source of biologically available calcium, so try putting that in with the branches and other chew toys that you give to them.:thumbsup

stepnstone
12-16-2010, 02:49 AM
@ Squillgurl
Will do and will post some pics soon. Yes, better late then never but sure wish I had found this site before I had to lose my Alie. She was so sweet...
Annie, our little survivor certainly will benefit.

@ Kristal
Egg shells... would never have thought of that! Can do.
Not afraid of the long haul. Been there with a cat that had been shot through the back by some jerk yahoo with a gun and paralyzed him waist down. Fool said he thought it was a groundhog. I kept him healthy, active and even my vet said he was a remarkable animal. Could do everything a regular cat could do but climb a tree. But I had to "process" him and changed diapers 4 times a day for seven years before he expired at age 15.
I'll do everything I can for this little baby.
~stepnstone~

stepnstone
12-16-2010, 11:54 AM
Heading out on a major shopping trip for my baby...
I have posted a question in: Specific Ailment Information-MBD
I would be really interested in all your thoughts on that.
~stepnstone~