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lilidukes
11-26-2010, 08:20 PM
Jackie, here is pictures before tooth trim. Didn't have any problems. Have given ab's. 2nd pic is of him right after the seizure he had a bit ago.
Jackie:Love_Icon :Love_Icon :grouphug :grouphug
virgo062
11-26-2010, 09:18 PM
:grouphug Roo...Your in good hands little buddy:grouphug
Lulu2010
11-26-2010, 09:27 PM
Awe poor little guy. I read his other thread and it was so nice of you to drive all the way out to get him. I pray he will make a full recovery.
My Lulu was about that size and finally started to grow at 14 weeks. Hope he starts to grow soon, too. Now Lulu is getting big at 19 wks but still hasn't really gotten her tail right. It's barely fluffy and white.
Well, I'll be following up on his story and I'm praying for the happiest ending.
atlantasquirrelgirl
11-26-2010, 10:13 PM
Are you going to check for intestinal parasites?
lilidukes
11-26-2010, 10:18 PM
Roo's just had a horrible seizure. He twisted his back legs around to where they looked like they were broken. Awful sounding mouth breathing. Checked the inside of his mouth his bottom teeth have gone through the roof of his mouth. I think he is about gone. Rice buddy and snuggle loves.
fallentwins
11-26-2010, 10:22 PM
There is one thing I forgot to tell you.. Sometimes when you feed him he will do this gagging thing like he is choking but its like a seizure at the same time.. It will look like he is still sucking but there is nothing there.. Its kinda strange. The only way we could ever get him to stop is to rub under his chin or cheeks kind of abruptly not hard but to get his brain off whatever he was doing.
The other seizures were about once a day unless he was in one of his slumps like now and then it could be a couple times a day..
The whole tooth trimming thing.. Thats one of the reasons we ask for help!!! :thankyou
lilidukes
11-26-2010, 10:22 PM
Are you going to check for intestinal parasites?
If we make it to the vet. haven't seen poopies yet but we did pee. Very dehydrated and under nourished.
lilidukes
11-26-2010, 10:24 PM
There is one thing I forgot to tell you.. Sometimes when you feed him he will do this gagging thing like he is choking but its like a seizure at the same time.. It will look like he is still sucking but there is nothing there.. Its kinda strange. The only way we could ever get him to stop is to rub under his chin or cheeks kind of abruptly not hard but to get his brain off whatever he was doing.
The other seizures were about once a day unless he was in one of his slumps like now and then it could be a couple times a day..
The whole tooth trimming thing.. Thats one of the reasons we ask for help!!! :thankyou
What those were are feeding seizures. The others might be neuro.
NaturesGift
11-26-2010, 10:25 PM
praying for this wee ones healing and for you lildukes for strength:grouphug
fallentwins
11-26-2010, 10:28 PM
He pooped just before we met with you and it was quite a bit..
Nancy in New York
11-26-2010, 10:31 PM
Oh yes praying hard for this little one....so very sad to see such an innocent baby in such bad shape....I know you are doing your best...just love him and hold him close...:Love_Icon
Scooterzmom
11-26-2010, 10:35 PM
I'm praying for little Roo and for you lilidukes. I know how much you love those lilttle creatures. I know how you will do your very best and lavish tons of love on this little guy. :grouphug
Our sweet loved ones are going to watch over you both.
Hang on little Roo! :Love_Icon Things will ge better, you'll see sweetie.
lilidukes
11-26-2010, 10:42 PM
I have rubbed and rubbed him put kayo syrup on his gums the first seizure he had he licked it up this one he didn't. I'm getting no response at all. Roo is curled up tight and very stiff. I can't hear any breathing
Nancy in New York
11-26-2010, 11:04 PM
I have rubbed and rubbed him put kayo syrup on his gums the first seizure he had he licked it up this one he didn't. I'm getting no response at all. Roo is curled up tight and very stiff. I can't hear any breathing
Oh dear God....:grouphug :grouphug :grouphug If this is it, at least he is in your hands feeling your love....I am so very heartbroken for you...words are just so inadequate :Love_Icon
Jackie in Tampa
11-27-2010, 12:39 AM
:grouphug :Love_Icon :grouphug
Pierre
11-27-2010, 07:39 AM
:Love_Icon :Love_Icon Praying for little Roo...:Love_Icon :Love_Icon
lilidukes
11-27-2010, 07:42 AM
Roo has crossed the rainbow bridge. Be free little man the trees and the golden acorns are all yours. No more pain.
I wish I could tell you all that he went peacefully but I can not. His bottom teeth had previously pierced the roof of his mouth it was very red and swollen. With so many different health issues Roo's poor little undernourished, underdeveloped body just couldn't hold on any longer.
I didn't really get a chance to help him. A week, maybe even 2 or 3 days sooner we might of have a better chance.
Fallentwins family I'm so sorry I know you cared.:grouphug
Please in the future anytime you give AB's only 2 days worth does as much damage as good. Roo will be buried today at my sons house in the woods near my release site.
I was holding him telling him he how much he was loved when he left us. Be wild and free Roo.
Lady Squirrelly
11-27-2010, 07:45 AM
Little Roo is free.
Thank you so much for caring so deeply for this littlest of angels.
Hugs to all involved.:grouphug
Jackie in Tampa
11-27-2010, 07:46 AM
Roo you were loved...:Love_Icon
kisses sweet little boy.
Thank you to all his care givers:grouphug
CritterMom
11-27-2010, 07:50 AM
Oh, Roo...:Love_Icon :grouphug I wanted the fairy tale ending, though, sweet baby...
lilidukes
11-27-2010, 07:54 AM
Oh, Roo...:Love_Icon :grouphug I wanted the fairy tale ending, though, sweet baby...
So very true.
virgo062
11-27-2010, 07:55 AM
Oh, Little Roo baby have a safe journey and a happy new beginning at the Bridge...Lilidukes bless you for trying. He really was a precious angel and fought for so long...:grouphug
virgo062
11-27-2010, 07:58 AM
And Nancy I will say you were right....He was the cutest baby on the board. Once I got home and saw his picture my heart just melted:grouphug I went in and woke up Knothead just to give him a little hug
Nancy in New York
11-27-2010, 08:09 AM
Perhaps this was the "plan". God knew that his broken little body couldn't hang on much longer. You were called to be the one that Roo passed with, knowing that he would be in loving hands while he drew his last breath. You gave him the greatest gift of all...
Rest in Peace
123746Sweet Baby Roo123747
atlantasquirrelgirl
11-27-2010, 09:38 AM
I'm sorry lildukes. Maybe something could have been done if help had been sought earlier. I know how tough it is to try and pull one through when they are at the end and it is heartbreaking.
fallentwins
11-27-2010, 09:39 AM
:Cry I am so sorry....
Roo has crossed the rainbow bridge. Be free little man the trees and the golden acorns are all yours. No more pain.
I wish I could tell you all that he went peacefully but I can not. His bottom teeth had previously pierced the roof of his mouth it was very red and swollen. With so many different health issues Roo's poor little undernourished, underdeveloped body just couldn't hold on any longer.
I didn't really get a chance to help him. A week, maybe even 2 or 3 days sooner we might of have a better chance.
Fallentwins family I'm so sorry I know you cared.:grouphug
Please in the future anytime you give AB's only 2 days worth does as much damage as good. Roo will be buried today at my sons house in the woods near my release site.
I was holding him telling him he how much he was loved when he left us. Be wild and free Roo.
I am very grateful for this forum and the people on it that do all that they do but I really don't like it when I am made out to be a bad person when you don't know what the last 10 weeks were like... He was takin care of very well or he wouldn't have lasted this long. And i never said we only did ab's for 2 days. I said he was better in 2 days.. we continued the cycle.
Truth be known it seems from what I have read that he was pumped full of to much stuff for his little body to process in one day..
You can ban me from posting or whatever you feel to be right but its not right to badger people who kept little guy alive for 10 weeks and you couldn't handle a day.
:soapbox
Lulu2010
11-27-2010, 09:40 AM
Sorry for your loss. He was a special boy. You did everything you could. RIP little Roo.
Lulu2010
11-27-2010, 09:57 AM
fallentwins- I don't think anyone was putting you down. I'm sure you took great care of him. I have a baby that no matter how much I overfed him, you could still feel her spine. Now she's fine. Maybe he had hard time with his weight bc of his health problems. I'm sorry for your loss too. And don't be so defensive. I'm sure you did a great job raising him. It was his time to go. He was in good hands and loved by many.
lilidukes
11-27-2010, 09:59 AM
:Cry I am so sorry....
I am very grateful for this forum and the people on it that do all that they do but I really don't like it when I am made out to be a bad person when you don't know what the last 10 weeks were like... He was takin care of very well or he wouldn't have lasted this long. And i never said we only did ab's for 2 days. I said he was better in 2 days.. we continued the cycle.
Truth be known it seems from what I have read that he was pumped full of to much stuff for his little body to process in one day..
You can ban me from posting or whatever you feel to be right but its not right to badger people who kept little guy alive for 10 weeks and you couldn't handle a day.
:soapbox
No no no I'm not saying you didn't feed him what I meant is his body wasn't absorbing any nutrients. And my bad I misunderstood you about the ab's. This little boy had multiple problems the seizures from the head injury as well as the teeth the failure to thrive for what ever reason.
And I did not "pump" anything into him I give him some Booster, dehydrating fluids and a tiny dose of ab's. The roof of his mouth was swollen and badly infected. He didn't have any problem with needing heat because he was burning up with fever. I was not attacking you I dropped everything even my best friend whom I have not seen in two years to come to you So I did everything in my power to help this boy. I REFUSE to take any blame here. Jackie was on the phone with me through much of this. I had to trim teeth something I would usually leave to my vet. If I could of gotten him to my vet last night I would of. Yesterday you said that this was not an emergency I do beg to disagree with you. He had at least 12 major and minor seizures in the time I had him. I am not a god but I did my best to preform a miracle.
Please don't try to make me out to be the bad guy here I rubbed and loved on your baby until his tail was stiff. And yes I cried TOO.
virgo062
11-27-2010, 10:31 AM
:Cry I am so sorry....
I am made out to be a bad person when you don't know what the last 10 weeks were like...:soapbox
WOW that never even crossed my mind:thinking I was happy that you took them in....Also this little fellow made it 10 weeks in your care...he had multiple problems and you took him in and cared for him for 10 weeks:thumbsup Girl, No one here is blaming you at all:thumbsup
Heck fire I almost killed a healthy one once:dono....OR TWICE!!!!
virgo062
11-27-2010, 10:45 AM
Stop it...Stop it...Fallentwins you could tell by the pictures that this baby was not healthy...You also have a healthy boy right next to him which tells me... You did all you could for this little squirrel who just was not meant to stay with us. sometime we lose them.
Lilidukes....You are a Angel for dropping everything to take in this little baby and traveling the distance. You also did everything you could. Kudos to you both..I know it's hard and everyone is grieving the loss but stop the blame game. IT"S NO ONE"S FAULT!
What is important is that little sick squirrel knew he was loved.....
Lady Squirrelly
11-27-2010, 10:46 AM
I think EVERYONE did the best they could at the time with the knowledge they had.
My first squirrel, Screech, got the best care I could give him. He was 2 1/2 when he passed. He got monthly trips to the vet for tooth trims, medicine for an inner ear infection when he was small, what I thought was a good diet, a custom built cage, and lots of love. I did not recognize the symptoms when he was ill and later after discovering the board, learned that his diet was not near as good as I had thought it was. He passed in the vets office. I often wonder how things could have been different if I had the knowledge I have now.
I lost a baby this year because I did not understand that my water was bad. I had used if for the last 8 years. He always had issues, but he got medicine (thanks Anne), care, and love, but I lost him anyway. I know better now.
Little Roo was never right. He had always had issues. Without Fallentwins he would not have made it as long as he did.
Yes, if Lilidukes had gotten him sooner, things might have had a different outcome, but who knows.
The important thing is that a little one was loved by so many (the board).
I believe that every time we love an animal, it changes us and makes us better.
RIP sweet little Roo.:grouphug
lilidukes
11-27-2010, 10:51 AM
Stop it...Stop it...Fallentwins you could tell by the pictures that this baby was not healthy...You also have a healthy boy right next to him which tells me... You did all you could for this little squirrel who just was not meant to stay with us. sometime we lose them.
Lilidukes....You are a Angel for dropping everything to take in this little baby and traveling the distance. You also did everything you could. Kudos to you both..I know it's hard and everyone is grieving the loss but stop the blame game. IT"S NO ONE"S FAULT!
What is important is that little sick squirrel knew he was loved.....
:grouphug :grouphug :grouphug :Love_Icon :Love_Icon :Love_Icon :grouphug :grouphug :grouphug
island rehabber
11-27-2010, 11:18 AM
Fallentwins, this baby was a classic "Failure to Thrive", coupled with head trauma/neuro issues. It is truly a miracle you kept him alive as long as you did with such a double whammy. There are countless seminars given by world-famous vets at rehabber conferences every year regarding failure-to-thrive baby mammals. The end conclusion is always the same: we just don't know what works, and we just can't ever predict.
Bless you for your love and your efforts. RIP little Roo.
virgo062
11-27-2010, 11:20 AM
classic "Failure to Thrive",
Awesome use of description IR...That describes my son perfectly:thumbsup
Best Life
11-27-2010, 01:02 PM
Stop it...Stop it...Fallentwins you could tell by the pictures that this baby was not healthy...You also have a healthy boy right next to him which tells me... You did all you could for this little squirrel who just was not meant to stay with us. sometime we lose them.
Lilidukes....You are a Angel for dropping everything to take in this little baby and traveling the distance. You also did everything you could. Kudos to you both..I know it's hard and everyone is grieving the loss but stop the blame game. IT"S NO ONE"S FAULT!
What is important is that little sick squirrel knew he was loved.....
I completely agree. Anytime a little loved one passes it is a highly emotional situation, and communicating via text (or even phone) can be so easily misinterpreted. I don't think anyone on TSB intends to be mean-spirited.
Not all babies are born in viable condition, and I believe grays only have about a 25% survival rate in their first year in the wild due to many factors.
They don't come to us with Apgar scores and medical histories. In fact, they don't come to us at all, we find them in whatever condition they are in, and commit ourselves to giving them the best chance at life they can possibly have. When we have questions, we ask. When we have done everything we can, we seek assistance. When they survive, we are joyous. And when they die, we need to remind ourselves of what that babie's fate would have been had he not been found and lovingly cared for in the first place.
My condolences to all who loved little Roo.
:Love_Icon Linda
Chickenlegs
11-27-2010, 05:18 PM
There's so much love here. Time to turn it onto the babies that can be saved. Sweet dreams Roo. Go with God. :Love_Icon
Scooterzmom
11-27-2010, 09:02 PM
Roo has crossed the rainbow bridge. Be free little man the trees and the golden acorns are all yours. No more pain.
I wish I could tell you all that he went peacefully but I can not. His bottom teeth had previously pierced the roof of his mouth it was very red and swollen. With so many different health issues Roo's poor little undernourished, underdeveloped body just couldn't hold on any longer.
I didn't really get a chance to help him. A week, maybe even 2 or 3 days sooner we might of have a better chance.
Fallentwins family I'm so sorry I know you cared.:grouphug
Please in the future anytime you give AB's only 2 days worth does as much damage as good. Roo will be buried today at my sons house in the woods near my release site.
I was holding him telling him he how much he was loved when he left us. Be wild and free Roo.
This just breaks my heart... completely breaks my heart... I don't know how to understand such a thing, seeing such a poor, sweet and innocent little one suffer his whole life even though people cared and tried. At least you made him feel loved, made he feel he was not alone. Fallentrees we KNOW tjat ALL OF YOU CARED & TRIED . Written words are so easily misinterpreted where there is no body language to read, no adequate tone of voice behind them to make sure we're not misunderstood. I am CERTAIN, PPOSITIVE that nobody here had ANY intention to make you feel inadequate. We all are sorry if we made you feel that way.
My thoughts are that God simply had other plans for little Roo. Maybe it was to make us all realize that we are only humans, that we can only do our best and deal with things as best we know how. Maybe Roo's short stay on earth was to give us all a dose of humility and even if that was the only thing he was put on earth to do, then it was a HUGE thing and a huge present he left us.
Let's not tarnish his memory with inner fightings. Once again Fallentrees we do know how much you loved that little guy and never would have hurt him.
Lilidukes I know how hard this must be for you... a second baby passing so soon must be a terrible blow.
My thoughts & prayers are with all of you. :grouphug
Roo, baby... The pain is gone, sweet angel. Be free and enjoy the relief of that freedom. You were and are loved and you will be remembered.
R.I.P. sweet little Roo. :Love_Icon
SquirrelsinSingapore
11-28-2010, 02:22 AM
Thank you
for caring little Roo.., even if its for afew days,
Roo had warmth.. care, your love, and the proper sending off...
Although little Roo was parentless.. least we made sure he did not go hungry
With much love.
Gd bye squimjs rrel
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