Is Hartz milk replacement a safe alternative to Esbilac?

[PeanutsMom]

I found a baby Squirrel about 3 to 4 weeks old and have been trying to rehabilitate it for the past 5 days. I've heard Esbilac is the best formula to get, but its hard to find. Hartz puppy milk replacemnt seems more common. Just wondering if it's safe to use? If not, are there other more cost efficient/generic brands to use?

[squirrelsrule&bunniestoo]

NO, hartz is not OK for squirrels. There is a homemade formula you can use while waiting for Fox Valley formula to come (I would highly recommend ordering fox valley formula or Zoologic 33/40 formula).

The things you will need for the homemade formula are:

Goats milk (fresh in the carton or powdered)

Heavy whipping cream (make sure it does NOT contain skim milk, should just be the fat from the milk)

yogurt (make sure it is NOT light, you want to get regular yogurt because the artificial sweetners are not good for baby squirrels)

and possibly an egg, not sure.

Someone should post the homemade recipe soon, but for now you can get the ingredients :).

[Nancy in New York]

NO, hartz is not OK for squirrels. There is a homemade formula you can use while waiting for Fox Valley formula to come (I would highly recommend ordering fox valley formula or Zoologic 33/40 formula).

The things you will need for the homemade formula are:

Goats milk (fresh in the carton or powdered)

Heavy whipping cream (make sure it does NOT contain skim milk, should just be the fat from the milk)

yogurt (make sure it is NOT light, you want to get regular yogurt because the artificial sweetners are not good for baby squirrels)

and possibly an egg, not sure.

Someone should post the homemade recipe soon, but for now you can get the ingredients :).


Jackie (Jackie in Tampa) has graciously offered her temporary replacement formula recipe.
Jackie's Goat Milk Recipe
1 cup goats milk
1/3 cup heavy cream
1/3 cup dannon all natural vanilla yogurt

[Jackie in Tampa]

Jackie (Jackie in Tampa) has graciously offered her temporary replacement formula recipe.
Jackie's Goat Milk Recipe
1 cup goats milk
1/3 cup heavy cream
1/3 cup dannon all natural vanilla yogurt
use this for now, but please order the FoxValley..
you can get all supplies, heating pad, nipples, syringes and FoX Valley etc at Henry'sHealthy Pets...and Leigh will overnight them also.
henryspets.com (http://henryspets.com)
goats milk is wonderful, but it does stink! OuCH!:D
good luck and do this asap!

[bh1253]

I don't feed this to my baby but I saw this while messing around on the internet and was wondering if this (GME Goat's Milk Esbilac by PetAg. )was a better alternative to esbilac puppy milk.

http://www.squirrelsandmore.com/product/13587&cfid=3184721&cftoken=75657068/gme-goats-milk-esbilac-by-petag.htm

[RiverRock]

HARTZ puppy formula made my Rockyboy sick and made his peepee red and swollen for a couple days even after he was off it..please dont give your squirrel that awful junk get your babies Fox Valley formula and use the home made formula till then.

[Jackie in Tampa]

Hartz loves your wallet....only!

[island rehabber]

Hartz loves your wallet....only!

Ditto! Nasty company.....and always has been. Even when I was a kid our vet told us to stay away from their junk.

[4skwerlz]

A heads-up about Hartz; their reputation got so bad they started a new company: LM Animal Farms. Bright red bag. Watch out for it.
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[mugzeezma]

A heads-up about Hartz; their reputation got so bad they started a new company: LM Animal Farms. Bright red bag. Watch out for it.
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UGH!!!
Thanks for the heads up!

[island rehabber]

Thanks 4S! I saw that brand this weekend at Pet(Not so)Smart :soapbox

[michelle1967]

Jackie (Jackie in Tampa) has graciously offered her temporary replacement formula recipe.
Jackie's Goat Milk Recipe
1 cup goats milk
1/3 cup heavy cream
1/3 cup dannon all natural vanilla yogurt
what does tempory mean? i found a baby squirrel i believe its about 3 weeks old my boyfriend went out and got that hartz puppy milk and on this forum we foundout thats not good. how long can it live on this recipe?

[stepnstone]

what does tempory mean? i found a baby squirrel i believe its about 3 weeks old my boyfriend went out and got that hartz puppy milk and on this forum we foundout thats not good. how long can it live on this recipe?
A lot longer then it's going to on the hartz junk ... :shakehead

We say temporary and prefer the transition to FV because FV
is specially formulated for squirrels and their complete nutritional needs.

[island rehabber]

Temporary should be no longer than 3-4 days -- the length of time it takes you to order the Fox Valley -- either from www.foxvalleynutrition.com, or www.henryspets.com -- and have it sent to you.

DIET is absolutely critical with baby squirrels. The wrong formula can and will kill them. At your babies' age you need to order the Fox Valley Day One for Squirrels, 32/40. :thumbsup

[jenniferposey86]

I used Hartz for two weeks before I got on this board. They survived but they were skinny until I got the Fox Valley. Now they are fat chunky butts.

[michelle1967]

A lot longer then it's going to on the hartz junk ... :shakehead

We say temporary and prefer the transition to FV because FV
is specially formulated for squirrels and their complete nutritional needs.
i have him on puppy formula but not hartz this stuff i give him is by just born. the petshop told me its better then hartz. and hes doing very well.

[CrazySquirrelLady]

Fox Valley formula turned my skinny starving squirrels into BIG HE MAN squirrels. They are doing so well. If you love your squirrel, feed Fox Valley Formula.

[stepnstone]

i have him on puppy formula but not hartz this stuff i give him is by just born. the petshop told me its better then hartz. and hes doing very well.

FV is specially formulated for squirrels and their complete nutritional needs.

But what do we know right.... :shakehead