BABY CROW NEEDS PLACEMENT

[psychobird]

hey everyone, i'm getting scared and desperate.
i have a young crow here who had a wing break near the joint, i just took the wrap off and i think the joint is fused (just what i thought and feared might happen)
i have been calling everyone i can think of to see if anyone is interested in a non releasable baby crow, with no luck so far and thought i would put it out here to see if you guys have any ideas or know anyone.
he/she is less than a month old with so much potential to be a great educational animal.
i have to keep him for a little while because i have a younger healthy singleton.
HELP!!

[Cejemere]

Me and Steve have been going over this all day, we both have always wanted a crow and hear they are extremely smart. We are still going over it. But I have a few questions. Silly enough I had a crow visit me today outside and wouldnt leave! Sat in my back tree and just cawed and cawed. Weird, since we were talking about it minutes before.

[Feeze]

Crows are incredibly smart. Many of us couldn't possibly understand just how smart.:thumbsup I have heard with a minor operation to their tongue, they can actually learn to talk. Amazing! Since they haven't gone through generations of domestic breeding.


I hope you find a wonderful home for this little one. I am so sorry the injury was permanent, and I hope you find a home very soon.

If I had my own house, I would take him/her in a heart beat.:Love_Icon

Good luck!:peace

[CritterMom]

Feeze, the "tongue split" is total nonsense. Crows can learn to speak and no surgery is needed or should be done.

When I was a kid we used to visit my aunt in Vancouver, WA. The people down the street had a labrador retriever and a crow. The old lab used to walk all over the neightborhood with the crow riding his back, talking away to him. You would hear them before you saw them!

[djarenspace9]

I agree, the "splitting toungue" method is unnecessary, :nono crows imitate just like parrots.
I had heard from a rehabber that only the males can learn to talk but don't know if there's any truth in that.

I did meet one that was a rehab baby that ended up not being able to fly properly and was kept permanent.
He learned to say quite a few phrases over his life.
They are very inquisitive and playful birds,
so whoever adopts him should be ready to keep his mind stimulated
with toys and lots of attention! :thumbsup

Good luck psychobird with finding him a good home! :)

[psychobird]

i guess i need to clarify a bit, he needs permanent placement in an educational program, all federal proper permits and approval would need to be in place before he could be shipped anywhere.
i can't legally let anyone keep him as a pet unfortunately, i would lose my permits and my rehabbing days would be over, plus i could face jail time and fines.

[psychobird]

oh and i just named him, his name is jay, because the little one is so quiet, the quietest crow i have ever had, they are officially jay and silent bob, lol, watch them both be girls

[squirrelfriend]

Crows are incredibly smart. Many of us couldn't possibly understand just how smart.:thumbsup I have heard with a minor operation to their tongue, they can actually learn to talk. Amazing! Since they haven't gone through generations of domestic breeding.


I hope you find a wonderful home for this little one. I am so sorry the injury was permanent, and I hope you find a home very soon.

If I had my own house, I would take him/her in a heart beat.:Love_Icon

Good luck!:peace


My mom and I raised a few orphans and wounded ones. The operation is not needed at all! That is a myth. Our first one learned to say hello and Good morning. They are very smart and love their neck scratched. Excellent pets! they like egg shells and cat kibble.

[Feeze]

Okay, I was kinda doubtful that the tongue thing was needed. I wonder if it is simply that only the males are interested in learning to talk. Since in most bird species it is the male that is more vocal, and attracts females as well as defends territory through "song."

psychobird, have you tried contacting zoos and wildlife parks? Of course, I wouldn't recommend it to them all, but you may even contact facilities out of state. I'm not certain if they would be interested, but you could call Rich Sartor at Northwest Trek. See if they would be interested in adding a crow to their presentation animals. Those are good people, I had the pleasure of working with them for a short time. Once again, good luck.
http://www.nwtrek.org/page.php?id=53 You can find Rich's number here.

[psychobird]

well i took him to tufts today to confirm his joint is fused and it is sadly, he will never be a flighted bird.
i have a couple of places showing interest, let me know if anyone knows anything about these 2 places
http://www.wildlifeambassadors.org/index.html
http://www.dewanimalkingdom.com/

[psychobird]

oh and the girls talk too.
i know someone who has a female that was found 13yrs ago as an adult with a broken wing and she talks.
she says "what?" about 10 different ways, she's too funny

[psychobird]

tufts was wrong, he (jay) can fly! i released his buddy silent bob last week, the main reason i had kept him alive, nobody with proper permits wanted him.
i had noticed he was getting to higher perches in the aviary, and i would grab him once in a while and extend that wing, he had movement in it and my doubts turned into hope, and wishing for a miracle.
the day after i released his buddy silent bob, i decided to take him (jay) to my vet.
my guy and i went in to try to catch him and my guy accidentally bumped the door open with his butt and jay got out.
he flew down the hill around the front of my house into the neighbor's yard, thankfully my guy is fast and got down there fast and was able to recapture him.
i took him to the vet and he told me he had 85% movement in that joint (which tufts told me was fused and he would never be a flighted bird) and he thinks with a couple more weeks using that wing to get around in the aviary i can release him!!!!
i'm so happy, crows are my absolute favorite babies to raise, i had held my heart back from loving him too much cause i knew that the outcome was probably not going to good.
now i can spend a little time loving him before i release him.
silent bob is still hanging out along with 2 earlier releases eva and demi, so hopefully bob and jay wil soon be part of the flock.
demi and eva hang out with a group of about 10 crows across the street in the cemetery, not sure if bob has been accepted yet by the flock but eva and demi are warming up to him, actually i think bob is girl so she's barb now i guess, lol.

[crazysquirrels]

Crows are good luck birds. What a suprise you must have had.

[Cejemere]

Yay! for baby crow being releasable! Thats awesome news!

[pappy1264]

I want to be there for that release!!!! I am so happy for both of you, Jodi. I know how much this has been hurting you.

[psychobird]

it has be tormenting me since i got him, and it was killing me that nobody wanted this amazing creature who could have been trained to be such a cool educational animal, he's a clean slate.
but i guess everything happened for a reason, if i didn't get that other baby, i may have put him down already.
if i placed him, he would have had to live in captivity, so all worked out in the end.
thank god i hang on to baby crows so long, it gave him the necessary time to heal and get that wing moving enough for me to see that he can fly.
i can take the couple of months or torture, lol to know he will hopefully live a long life flying free.
my only regret is i distanced my heart from him and didn't spend the time i normally would have getting to know him.
he don't like me at all! but that's okay, silent bob didn't either and he is still out there hanging out with the other 2 brats demi and eva and he talks to me, he's working on saying hello also.

[psychobird]

probably gonna aim for release at the end of next week or the weekend depending on the weather

[virgo062]

probably gonna aim for release at the end of next week or the weekend depending on the weather

Please post pictures

[Alcippe]

How wonderful! Thanks for sharing the great news!

[pappy1264]

I will be there! Oh, btw, thinking I will most likely release little Suzi next Tuesday (it is supposed to rain on Monday). I think she is doing really great and think she will be ready by then. She stopped meds yesterday, this will give her a few days to make sure she stays ok with no meds! She seems very content on the deck, not stressing out, so that is good.

[psychobird]

jay was released this morning, he flew up to a branch about 15 feet up and stayed there for about 2 hrs poking at leaves and getting startled by the fact that they move, and gabbing in crow talk to me
then he did a huge circle across the street over the neighbors houses and back to the hill up behind my house with me screaming and hooting for joy the whole time.
he lost no elevation, he was working pretty hard but that to be expected for his first big flight.
i am so happy and so proud of him, he really is a miracle

[skunkangel]

hey everyone, i'm getting scared and desperate.
i have a young crow here who had a wing break near the joint, i just took the wrap off and i think the joint is fused (just what i thought and feared might happen)
i have been calling everyone i can think of to see if anyone is interested in a non releasable baby crow, with no luck so far and thought i would put it out here to see if you guys have any ideas or know anyone.
he/she is less than a month old with so much potential to be a great educational animal.
i have to keep him for a little while because i have a younger healthy singleton.
HELP!!

The IWRC runs a public animal placement board where people can request species for placement, or post animals available for placement. You might want to check it out. It's almost all people needing/seeking educational placement/non-releasable cases.

http://www.iwrc-online.org/placement/placement.html

Good luck!

[Kristal]

Speaking of clever crows, this story cracked me up ;)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1279622/Fancy-Marlboro-flight-The-crows-took-crafty-cigarette-break-.html