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gs1
03-03-2010, 01:41 PM
hi: this might be an emergency.

http://www.thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21666


Hello yawl
We noticed my female gray( almost two yrs old) dragging her rear end. Seemed like she was scratching. This morning when I uncovered her, she's bleeding a little bit down there. She doesnt seem to be playing like her usual. My husband said, she may be in heat or have past it. We aren't sure what to do. please help..

PBluejay2
03-03-2010, 01:58 PM
Several things can cause bleeding from the genital/anal area. Can you tell whether it's coming from the anus or the vagina/urethra? You might use a Q-tip to swab each area separately and see if any signs of blood are present in either area.

pingnpong
03-03-2010, 03:12 PM
Thanks for the reply. I haven't posted anything here before but heres the latest.

She has actually come out of her little sleeping bag and played and ate some food. I could still see a little blood coming from her vagina.

My baby's name is Pong. We found her and her sister 2008 during hurricane Ike. We have released her sister early 2009. I think they were only two weeks old or so. She's been to a vet when she got sick and was given calcium shot. She felt better after that.

Her main diet is snap peas, broccoli,beans,carrots,asparagus,radishes,cranberr ies and other leafy greens,grapes and apples(not often). Nuts in shells, she is crazy about hazelnut, pecans,walnut and almonds.

She also drink water that we add some vitamin (VITADROPS High potency for hamster,gerbils etc.) We every two weeks we give her a capsule of calcium with vit D. She also eats her cuttle bone.

I think thats pretty much it. I am going to be watching her and see if it doesnt stop or she stops playing, we may have to drive her to the vet.

We are in Spring, TX does anyone know of any good vet for squirrels?
Thank you all

Jackie in Tampa
03-03-2010, 03:34 PM
just going to intercept here with a thought, maybe not pertaining to what is going on with her, but still needs to be said...
no more calcium pills with d...the amounts in human viatamins and the RDV in sqs is very different...
give her mushrooms for d and straight plain calcium tablets, thanks and sorry for interupting.
When my adult females are in heat, I have never seen blood, but that's not to say that is or is not why she is bleeding...
in texas you need to hold a rehab license to be seen by a vet, unless you already know a vet that loves you.
I will recommend you wait until we can find someone willing to help you...
hang tight...we will start looking now!
others will be here shortly to help also...
can you post a pic of your sq?
also, stop with the vitamins in the water...:peace
btw, welcome to tsb...:Welcome :wave123

Jackie in Tampa
03-03-2010, 03:36 PM
are you halfway between conroe and houston?
what county is that?

ShesASquirrelyGirl
03-03-2010, 04:03 PM
yes please stop with the vitamins. That has a ton of vit c which can cause bladder irritation, she might be rubbing on things because of it causing her self to get irritated and bleed

pingnpong
03-03-2010, 04:19 PM
well we're close enough to Conroe and the woodlands area.

Our other pets vet recommended Pong's vet. She has has taken care of some other squirrels as well. I will stop giving her the calcium tabs and stop with the vitamins in the water.
Thanks again... and if any of you are here in the houston area and know a vet that would know about treating a squirrel, please let me know. It doesnt matter if its south of my area. We can certainly drive 50 or more miles to take her to a qualified vet.
Please advice if taking her to a wildlife rehab would be ok. We don't want to give her a way as she is part of the family now but only for treatment. I don't even know if its allowed to care for one here in our state.

CritterMom
03-03-2010, 04:36 PM
The calcium itself is fine. It is the calcium with vitamin D that needs to stop. Most supplements for humans have the D added, because we need it to process the calcium. So do squirrels, but in a much lesser amount than squirrels.

The rehabber folks are pounding the bushes for you right now - keep checking back, okay?

PBluejay2
03-03-2010, 05:37 PM
I've looked up what I could find on vaginal bleeding in rats, and barring tumors (which rats are prone to get), the most common cause is urinary tract infection. Sulfatrim (SMZ-TMP/Bactrim) is an excellent choice of antibiotic for UTIs.

jfischer
03-03-2010, 06:37 PM
Welcome to TBS.:Welcome

I live in Magnolia, Tx. not to far from you. I have a 2 year old female squirrel and I have not seen any blood from her. I can't not even tell when she is in heat, except for one time, when she was aggressive towards me.

I am in the same situation as you with what vet to use. I have some names , but have not had an occasion to use them. I am afraid to call them for fear of loosing my baby.

I try to keep her healthy. I did have a problem with her fur thinning, but I stated feeding her Henry's Healthy Blocks made by one of the TBS members. If you look in the nurition section, you will find all about them. Since my squirrel has been eating them, her fur has grown back (silky and shinney more than the wild squirrels). Their is a receipe if you want to make them in the nutrition section. Wished I could help you with the blood situation, but have no expierence.

CritterMom
03-03-2010, 06:57 PM
OK, let me get this straight - you are in Spring, TX, right? So anywhere in the general Houston area would work, right?

We have a number of TSB members from TX, and they may be able to help. Hold for now - the sanctuary may not be a good idea. They will undoubtedly take your squirrel, and I have no idea what their policy on non-releasable animals is, but some are not very good. It is something that needs to be investigated without giving them any personal info.

Did you keep Pong because he developed MBD? And I assume Ping did not?

Please hang in there - we're trying to get ahold of TX members. Keep checking back here.

PBluejay2
03-03-2010, 07:06 PM
IMHO--if the only symptom is a blood coming from the vagina/urethra, a vet is what is needed to run the appropriate tests (if there's not an injury), not a rehabber--unless that rehabber is equipped with some fairly sophisticated diagnostic laboratory equipment/supplies.

CritterMom
03-03-2010, 07:16 PM
Hoping the rehabbers can help with the vet...

lookmomchickens
03-03-2010, 07:45 PM
It is near impossible to find a vet to treat a squirrel in Texas... I just went through this with Roxie - that's why we had to made a "road trip".

Is there anything I can do? I'm located in west Houston.

lookmomchickens
03-03-2010, 07:50 PM
Can someone PM Skul/Mrs Skul?? I'm on my Iphone.. Crittermom I'm going to PM you my phone #

muffinsquirrel
03-03-2010, 08:23 PM
Hi Pong's mom. I am not too very far from you, (about 25 miles above Beaumont), and have a vet that will see her. I am PMing you with more information.

muffinsquirrel

CritterMom
03-03-2010, 08:24 PM
Thank you SO MUCH, muffin.:thumbsup :bowdown

lookmomchickens
03-03-2010, 08:50 PM
Thanks muffin!!:thumbsup

Jackie in Tampa
03-03-2010, 09:19 PM
thanks muffin!
thanks crittermom!

pingnpong
03-03-2010, 09:31 PM
We'll try the vet that treated her when she had her calcium deficiency. We appreciate all the information that everyone has given us and we'll keep everyone updated when we get some news.

To crittermom: Ping was the healthy one when we decided to release her. Pong got sick with calcium deficiency. We tried to put the cage out but Ping was the one excited to leave. Pong just stayed in her cage outside crying throughout the night. She climbed the tree in the backyard but then go back to the cage and cry and shiver. We left her out three days just to see if she would follow ping but she did not. We felt sorry for her and brought her back in the house and she was back to being playful and happy.

Everynow and then we'd take her out and she'd just freeze and not move at all until we brought her back in. We then decided that we can no longer release her for reasons that she won't be able to deal with other squirrels, won't know how to forage for food and she'll just cry and cry.

Ping is a happy squirrel. She comes everyday to have snack. We put some seeds and peanuts/nuts in the backyard. She brings in sick squirrel and let them eat and keep other squirrels from them. We have about 10 or more squirrel visitors a day.

Again thank you all so much and hope you have a nice evening.

I'll write back when I have news.

Skul
03-03-2010, 11:55 PM
Spring is only twenty miles east of me.
Just south of the woodlands.

Mrs Skul
03-04-2010, 03:56 AM
:wave123 Hi PingPong How is Pong doing? I have a few questions? Is Pong's vagina swollen / look puffy and hard? If this is what you see, then she is in heat. I found a little blood when Rockie first came in heat. She did not get moody or aggressive. But it was 1 or 2 days only. :thinking Does she keep licking and cleaning her self? How long have you seen the blood? :shakehead If you are seeing blood for more then 3 days, she probably has a kidney / bladder infection. Have you noticed when Pong pees, does she strain? When a squirrel has kidney/ bladder stones they will have blood present. (But she will pee allot more and will be straining a lot!) Is she drinking a lot more water then usual?
"Just like ShesASquirrelyGirl Has said. Please stop with the vitamin's. That has a ton of Vit. C which can cause bladder irritation, she might be rubbing on things because of it causing her self to get irritated and bleed."
I live in New Caney. My vet will see Squirrels if needed. PM your phone number. I will call you and work out the details. I am hopping Pong is doing better! :grouphug

CritterMom
03-04-2010, 08:24 AM
Well, you have a couple of good options here, I think. PLEASE come back once you get this settled, though. Pong needs to have her diet tweaked and we can help you do that. You are much better off if she is eating a diet that supplies all of the vitamins and minerals she needs, especially the calcium, rather than trying to make it up by giving a supplement. A squirrel eating a properly balanced diet of rodent blocks, fresh veggies and fruit and nuts in small quantities doesn't need additional supplementation.

Vitamins in water is ALWAYS a bad idea, for any animal, and I wish that the pet supply companies wouldn't push it. First, it changes the flavor of the water and may cause the animal to not drink enough, which is bad enough. Second, it very quickly will turn into a "bacteria stew" and I am talking within just a few hours, not days. The vitamins provide a perfect little environment for all kinds of nasty things to grow.

Lots of nice people her with great info and we CAN help you get little Pong on the dietary "straight and narrow." You will be happy you did - and after a while, so will she.

pingnpong
03-04-2010, 12:51 PM
Hello there all,
Yes, her vagina is swollen and she just started bleeding yesterday morning.

Tuesday morning after uncovering her in the morning she started crying and we didn't know what was wrong. Then we let her out of the cage to play around the room and we noticed her dragging her rear end and thought she was just playing or marking her territory.

When i uncovered her today she was already playing and her vagina isn't bleeding anymore but will have to check it out again. It's still a little swollen we'll be taking her our vet just to be sure.

Pong isn't that tame. She still has her wild side. When we found her and rehab'd her, we tried to give too much human contact. But we got her a big cage so she can run around when she isn't out of it.

About the Vitamins in the water. The last time she went to the vet for calcium shot she recommended the vitamins drops and every now and then to give calcium tabs just incase she isn't getting enough of it. In a way she isnt getting much of the calcium tabs anyway bcoz she just nibble a little and hides the rest of it. I also have tried rodent block from the recipe I found here and she wouldn't touch any of it. She is very picky and so I just try to find vegetables that has plenty of calcium and vitamins that she needs. If you have any other ideas of what you feed your ownb squirrels I'd be happy to try it on her.

Thanks again guys. We do love our baby girl and I hope its just in heat and not a serious problem.

CritterMom
03-04-2010, 01:21 PM
Please make sure he check for urinary tract infection.

When you get past this, we will help with the diet. Pong CAN be convinced to eat the healthy squirrel blocks, but YOU will have to be strong and she needs to be in good health to begin with. There will be temper tantrums... But let's find out what the problem here is - if there is one - and go from there.

Mrs Skul
03-04-2010, 05:51 PM
:wave123 Hi PingPong Sounds like she is in heat. Watch for her tinkle to get swollen and very hard. It will look like you can see inside her when this happens.((OR like it has been turned inside out)) Rockie cried allot. When I took her to the vet . ""DR Dori laughed, said she is in heat. :rotfl Most people don't close enoughs to see what I was seeing!":D It will take a few days. 1 week and should be over with. :thinking Do watch her close to see if she is straining when she pees. That is a different thing.
:dono Some vets don't know allot about squirrels. Vit. in the water. PLEASE Don't do that, it will cause her not to drink enough water. That will cause Kidney, & Bladder Stones, and Infection. Not a good outcome. When you feed them their block, allot of times they do not like them. BUT they NEED them to live a Happy Healthy Life. Along with the vegetables and Calcium.
4 SKWERLZ Is who makes them. You can buy the Vitamins and make them your self if you wish.[/QUOTE]
Visit the Henry's Healthy Blocks website: http://healthyblocks.com/index.html So please when we get all this figured out. Let us help you get her started back on the right track. One more question? :dono Do you offer Pong Yogurt? I use Dannon LaCream Vanilla Yogurt. Hear is a another source of calcium. You can buy from Pets Mart a calcium mineral chew. They look like Ice Cream Cones. There are 3 in each pkg. It takes a while but when she figures out what they are she will chew on them. I think they are part of a KA-BOB Thing, Called Chilly Chews.:D you buy. I just hang them inside the cage. It would be nice, if you could take some pictures.:Love_Icon :multi We love seeing other peoples squirrels. :) Good luck and keep us posted. :thankyou Christal

SandyC
08-10-2017, 09:43 PM
just going to intercept here with a thought, maybe not pertaining to what is going on with her, but still needs to be said...
no more calcium pills with d...the amounts in human viatamins and the RDV in sqs is very different...
give her mushrooms for d and straight plain calcium tablets, thanks and sorry for interupting.
When my adult females are in heat, I have never seen blood, but that's not to say that is or is not why she is bleeding...
in texas you need to hold a rehab license to be seen by a vet, unless you already know a vet that loves you.
I will recommend you wait until we can find someone willing to help you...
hang tight...we will start looking now!
others will be here shortly to help also...
can you post a pic of your sq?
also, stop with the vitamins in the water...:peace
btw, welcome to tsb...:Welcome :wave123


Hi I hope I'm posting this correctly. I'm new to tsb. Just ten mins ago my female gray did the same thing right before bed. I checked her parts n they look perfect. She also has had a change in her appetite. She no longer likes ger pumpkin seeds which she always went crazy for. N her yam for dinner she's not too thrilled about either. I posted or replied to another thread about this thinking she was in heat BC of her energy level being so high n crazy. She just a yr old in July. Is it now that she's an adult she no longer pigs out n just eats a lil at a time? I changed her diet n she seems to eating more but still not like she used to but het energy level is still thru the roof. N then the dragging just happened. Mayne it was an itch she couldn't scratch?? OK so back to my original question also, she definitely is not getting enough sun eventho she lives in a sunroom(no cage). How much vit d n calcium is the right amount? I saw that u said mushrooms have d. What kind of mushrooms? N she has her cuttle bones n used to eat her rodent blocks but isn't eating them anymore now. I coated them w peanut butter but she's smart n just licked it off. Please help! I lover her more than anything in this world! Thank u very much!!

stepnstone
08-11-2017, 09:08 AM
Hi I hope I'm posting this correctly. I'm new to tsb. Just ten mins ago my female gray did the same thing right before bed. I checked her parts n they look perfect. She also has had a change in her appetite. She no longer likes ger pumpkin seeds which she always went crazy for. N her yam for dinner she's not too thrilled about either. I posted or replied to another thread about this thinking she was in heat BC of her energy level being so high n crazy. She just a yr old in July. Is it now that she's an adult she no longer pigs out n just eats a lil at a time? I changed her diet n she seems to eating more but still not like she used to but het energy level is still thru the roof. N then the dragging just happened. Mayne it was an itch she couldn't scratch?? OK so back to my original question also, she definitely is not getting enough sun eventho she lives in a sunroom(no cage). How much vit d n calcium is the right amount? I saw that u said mushrooms have d. What kind of mushrooms? N she has her cuttle bones n used to eat her rodent blocks but isn't eating them anymore now. I coated them w peanut butter but she's smart n just licked it off. Please help! I lover her more than anything in this world! Thank u very much!!

Sandy, you have posted in an older forum belonging to someone else and will not get the attention or responses you need.
Please go back to the emergency section and on the top left where is says " Posts new thread" start your own forum for
your baby and please list the complete diet you have been feeding this baby.