Tooth came out

[luckyducky]

I was clipping her teeth and usually there are no problems but the other day I was clipping and one came out from the root! I'm suspecting a calcium defeciency in her diet was the cause. I don't know what to do. I am trying to find a vet or someplace that will sell me an oral antiseptic to prevent infection. As of now she won't eat but she's still very playful. I'm feeding her vegetable blend baby food with crushed rodent block mixed in. I don't know what to do and I feel so incredibly guilty for hurting my baby. Any advise would be so very helpful. Thank you.

ashley


P.S. She cried white tears after the tooth came out! Is this normal for squirrels to have white tears!?

[4skwerlz]

Oh dear, how awful for you and your poor squirrel. Their teeth are a little looser than people's teeth and they can be pulled out accidentally. You need to make sure you use TOP QUALITY clippers for clipping her teeth. Jackie in Tampa can advise you on what kind to buy.

Her tooth might grow back or it might not; you'll have to wait and see, and make sure you keep the opposing tooth clipped down.

What is causing the problem with her teeth? Is it malocclusion or something else? If you think your baby might have calcium problems, please check out the Emergency Treatment for MBD, which describes how to treat calcium deficiency. Here is the link:

http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16526

If your squirrel has had seizures, lethargy, loss of appetite, then you should do the Emergency Treatment. Otherwise, you can use the Long Term Treatment.

A rehabber will be here shortly to give you some more advice.

[Jackie in Tampa]

This is a partial PM from May...are these the clippers that you bought?
I think that within a day or two you will see a change or not, in his attitude if he is going to get infection. I would start looking for meds and vet just in case. I am sure your baby is in pain,:grouphug heat will help some, keep him hydrated too.
Are you in Georgia? Please Pm me your location and we can start looking for someone also.
4Skwerlz has given good advise.
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[PBluejay2]

If it was an incisor, and the tooth came out by the root, it would be about the size and length of a man's thumbnail clipping, if not a bit longer--about an eighth of an inch wide and three-quarters of inch long. Any less and you might have simply broken the tooth off, probably at the gum line or just under, and the tooth will probably grow back. Unless there's a good reason, such as a malocclusion to trim her teeth, don't do it! If you give her enough things to gnaw on, she can take care of them herself, but the primary way they keep them trimmed and sharpened is by grinding the uppers and lowers together.

[Jackie in Tampa]

this is an entire upper incisor, did it look like this?

If it broke off at gum line, it may grow back.
As others have said, calcium deficiency may be involved.
If she squirmed while clipping, trauma may have occured to root and odontoma is also a possibility.
You will have to monitor her other opposing tooth very closely.
Pics will help.
Baby food is good!:thumbsup Try formula again too!
Stick to soft foods for a day or so until you can verify if it broke or fell out. Oh that sounds sooo painful.
:grouphug

[luckyducky]

YES! The tooth looks exactly like the one above. It is the exact length....but it was bloody :( I use high quality German Steel clippers that Jackie from Tampa told me to buy (got them on Ebay). However, I will never clip her teeth again.

I do not suspect an infection (yet) but I'm so scared I may have hurt her jaw or something. She cried white tears after the trauma and she won't open her jaw all the way to eat. Could severe trauma to her jaw be possible?

[PBluejay2]

YES! The tooth looks exactly like the one above. It is the exact length....but it was bloody :( I use high quality German Steel clippers that Jackie from Tampa told me to buy (got them on Ebay). However, I will never clip her teeth again.

I do not suspect an infection (yet) but I'm so scared I may have hurt her jaw or something. She cried white tears after the trauma and she won't open her jaw all the way to eat. Could severe trauma to her jaw be possible?


White tears? Are you sure the tooth wasn't infected already? If it was abcessed/infected, there may have been bone loss which contributed to the tooth coming out.

[island rehabber]

"Crying white tears" is a common sign of stress in squirrels. Several of mine have done it during their first meeting with the vet....it's a strange thing to see, but not a sign of infection. Nevertheless -- that's what we need to be concerned about with the empty socket in her mouth.

[Jackie in Tampa]

normal sq breath smells fresh and clean, exactly like comet/ajax scouring powder...if you smell any funk...infection is present and needs intervention...i would absolutely drive this sq where ever a vet is...even to montana if i had to...it is a serious issue and needs antibiotics...
remember no cillans...
i recommend baytril for this wound
i am not rehabber, but think it would be best
if this sq wiggled while clipping ever, there may be underling issues
if sq wiggled and you ripped tooth out , it would have bled alot
if sq bites cage bars ever, this can attribute to on going damage too.
i hate to sound like a know it all, but i kinda do know alot about teeth and have done my homework.

You bought the clippers on ebay?????
duh...I told you all clippers look alike and the ones I showed you were special...
:soapbox
my stomach hurts!!!

[luckyducky]

normal sq breath smells fresh and clean, exactly like comet/ajax scouring powder...if you smell any funk...infection is present and needs intervention...i would absolutely drive this sq where ever a vet is...even to montana if i had to...it is a serious issue and needs antibiotics...
remember no cillans...
i recommend baytril for this wound
i am not rehabber, but think it would be best
if this sq wiggled while clipping ever, there may be underling issues
if sq wiggled and you ripped tooth out , it would have bled alot
if sq bites cage bars ever, this can attribute to on going damage too.
i hate to sound like a know it all, but i kinda do know alot about teeth and have done my homework.

You bought the clippers on ebay?????
duh...I told you all clippers look alike and the ones I showed you were special...
:soapbox
my stomach hurts!!!
Yeah, I got the clippers on ebay they were german steel very high quiality. Exactly like the ones you showed me.

[PBluejay2]

"Crying white tears" is a common sign of stress in squirrels. Several of mine have done it during their first meeting with the vet....it's a strange thing to see, but not a sign of infection.


Wow! I'm not doubting here, but can you explain the phenomenon? I've read about what appears to be bloody tears but not white tears. Is there somewhere I can look this up?

[island rehabber]

Wow! I'm not doubting here, but can you explain the phenomenon? I've read about what appears to be bloody tears but not white tears. Is there somewhere I can look this up?

PBJ2, from the Caseys' Squirrel Handbook, page 8.23:

Stress and Fear:
Description:.......May have a small amount of white discharge around eyes or nostrils when handled.

The Caseys don't explain why this happens -- can't help you there. Dr P said it occurs in other rodents under stress as well, not just squirrels.

[Jackie in Tampa]

Do we know if LD has gotten meds?
I did offer to send her some if she thought they were needed...
I hate the fact she cannot go to a vet!!!!
I have to work this week, limited computer time....errr!

Legomoms Christine cried white tears, at first we thought it was milk...so we put food color in her formula...but they did not change colors...so we knew it wasn't coming from nasal cavity.
I too have seen white tears from Rocky.

[PBluejay2]

PBJ2, from the Caseys' Squirrel Handbook, page 8.23:

Stress and Fear:
Description:.......May have a small amount of white discharge around eyes or nostrils when handled.

The Caseys don't explain why this happens -- can't help you there. Dr P said it occurs in other rodents under stress as well, not just squirrels.


Thanks! i'VE NEVER SEEN IT, BUT IF i DO MAYBE i WON'T FREAK AS BADLY :-)