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ransacklv
09-28-2009, 04:04 PM
I have asked several times and rarely get a a reply but i really need help guys!?! Merman was gracious enough to help with a photo that looks a lil similar to my baby girls tail... She keeps chewing.....How do i get her to STOP :soapbox nothing i do has worked! I have cleaned her cage and places she sleeps thougholy and bathed her which she was not happy about....:poke ... So what to do--- no vet will help... other than her tail she is happy and playfull with a great appetite and urge to play and snuggle--- please help asap tinfoil

PBluejay2
09-28-2009, 04:15 PM
I looked at what I think was your original post on the tail issue, and you say there are "no bugs," but mites tend to gravitate to places where vessels and capillaries are plentiful and easily accessed, and the tail is a prime target. Most mites are not visible to the naked eye either. I had a squirrel recently with two unexplained, rather large, yellowish scabs on its tail. Mites turned out to be the cause.

ransacklv
09-28-2009, 04:17 PM
So how can i bandage or whatever to clean it and keep it clean .... it doesnt hurt her or when you touch it it doesnt bother her -- just she doesnt look like much of a squirrel anymore due to short tail.. i wanna help her:shakehead :Love_Icon

Legomom
09-28-2009, 04:28 PM
If it's mites, then I think Revolution is the recommended treatment. A skin scrape by a vet will help with diagnosing. Are you in FL right now? If so, we have several members around the state with vet support that can hook you up. If you're in OK, which I think is illegal, get a cat-sized tube of Revolution (any pet store, I think) & place one drop on the back of her neck.

:poke PBJ...is this the course of action to take?

ransacklv
09-28-2009, 04:42 PM
yes im in OKC and no vet will help.. but i might try to get a vacation break and come to FL -- you said REVOLUTION will help?

squirrelfriend
09-28-2009, 05:42 PM
Have you tried a cone? You could take it off while she is supervised and fed. If the tail was dead then they will do this. My Scoopies did this to the last third of her tail but she has stopped and it is healing. Her tail doesn't work or have any feeling in it. It might be better that she did because it was in her way anyhow. Not that I would suggest this as the best method.:shakehead It is just a squirrels way of self medicating.

Did your squirrels tail function properly before she chewed it?

squirrelfriend
09-28-2009, 05:44 PM
http://www.squirrelunderpants.com/index.html

Have you tried these? Sorry, I had to ask.:D

lizharrell1
09-28-2009, 05:46 PM
http://www.squirrelunderpants.com/index.html

Have you tried these? Sorry, I had to ask.:D
LOL:rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl
Do they make boy shorts or bikinis for our girl squirrels?

PBluejay2
09-28-2009, 06:34 PM
If it's mites, then I think Revolution is the recommended treatment. A skin scrape by a vet will help with diagnosing. Are you in FL right now? If so, we have several members around the state with vet support that can hook you up. If you're in OK, which I think is illegal, get a cat-sized tube of Revolution (any pet store, I think) & place one drop on the back of her neck.

:poke PBJ...is this the course of action to take?


Yes, but a skin scraping can miss mites. You need to give .05 ccs per pound. I think all sizes of Revolution are the same strength of selemectin--kittens and puppies, cats, dogs--just more of it in the larger tubes. Took me a while to figure this out. Could have saved myself some bucks along the way.

ransacklv
09-29-2009, 10:21 AM
Um Yes her tail was and is functional. she can still lift it a lil and puff it out.. when she was little and i was new to this whole raising a squirrel thing. She tried jumping off the bed and my dad had dogs and cats so i panicked and in the haste of the moment i grabbed her tail with broke the tip and thats where she chews it now... she still wont let it heal.. anyone know if bitter orange or bitter apple will keep her from chewing it.... she just chews bandages off -- the REVOLUTION do i need to do it more than once:dono


and thanks guys

PBluejay2
09-29-2009, 10:30 AM
A one time dose should take care of the mites (if there are any). Keep bedding clean, however.

merman
09-29-2009, 10:34 AM
Bitter apple or orange stuff have been tried by me and also by NaturesGift without any luck, her thread:
http://www.thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=444383&postcount=34


It seems, then there is a wound on the body, they cannot keep from licking and chewing. Once you can keep cone-ecollar on and tail heals, i am pretty sure chewing on the tail will stop.
Like my girl Mia, if there is a wound or crack on her skin, she keeps expanding it and only ecollar helps!!
Check her wound thread:

http://www.thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16352

You should manage to put that ecollar on. Then you can get the mite problem fixed. But to get there, you should stop her reaching and biting the tail, i.e. ecollar..

Good luck............................

-Vas & Mia

ransacklv
10-01-2009, 09:57 AM
got stuck with ADVANTAGE MULTI dosed her yesterday cross your fingers:thankyou

Legomom
10-01-2009, 10:14 AM
got stuck with ADVANTAGE MULTI dosed her yesterday cross your fingers:thankyou

If I recall, from a previous posting by PBJ, Advantage does nothing for mites. But, it will keep off any fleas. :thumbsup

PBluejay2
10-01-2009, 10:17 AM
If I recall, from a previous posting by PBJ, Advantage does nothing for mites. But, it will keep off any fleas. :thumbsup


This is true.

Jackie in Tampa
10-01-2009, 11:25 AM
Everything I have read/heard says Advantage Multi DOES take care of mites.


I am not sure the make up of Revolution, but I called bayer and Advantage is the same ingrediants for dogs and cats also, like PBJ said, bigger tubes only difference ...per Bayer!

PBluejay2
10-01-2009, 11:34 AM
Everything I have read/heard says Advantage Multi DOES take care of mites.


I am not sure the make up of Revolution, but I called bayer and Advantage is the same ingrediants for dogs and cats also, like PBJ said, bigger tubes only difference ...per Bayer!


I'm not home now, but I previouly cited a medical reference that stated clearly Advantage has "no activity" against mites.

Jackie in Tampa
10-01-2009, 11:40 AM
don't ever take anything I say to the bank..I don't know diddley!
Just what I read and have heard!...????:dono

Jackie in Tampa
10-01-2009, 11:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p42l-EI422E

http://answers.1800petmeds.com/answers/1800/product/prod10945/questions.htm?page=2&expandQuestion=94133

http://www.petcarerx.com/pcrx/HealthGuide/Medications/Medication.aspx?mid=13006

Jackie in Tampa
10-01-2009, 11:53 AM
http://www.animalhealth.bayerhealthcare.com/491.0.html?no_cache=1&tx_bahprdmx_pi1[tx_bahprdmx_prods.trademark]=ADVANTAGE%20MULTI
this is from bayer

PBluejay2
10-01-2009, 11:59 AM
http://www.animalhealth.bayerhealthcare.com/491.0.html?no_cache=1&tx_bahprdmx_pi1[tx_bahprdmx_prods.trademark]=ADVANTAGE%20MULTI
this is from bayer

I can't make sense out of this one (in a hurry--in class actually), but the previous three seemed to specify ear mites, not any other. Perhaps ear mites are a special sort of critter that can be taken care of with Advantage. But other mites residing on the body, such as mange mites and rodent mites, may not be affected. I'll look it back up when I get home and cite my source again.

Jackie in Tampa
10-01-2009, 12:14 PM
I too will look for more details...I hate hate hate reading research....tinfoil foriegn language

Jackie in Tampa
10-01-2009, 12:18 PM
CATS For cats suffering from, or at risk from, mixed parasitic infections: For the treatment and prevention of flea infestation (Ctenocephalides felis), treatment of ear mite infestation (Otodectes cynotis), prevention of heartworm disease (L3 and L4 larvae of Dirofilaria immitis) and treatment of infections with gastrointestinal nematodes (L4 larvae, immature adults and adults of Toxocara cati and Ancylostoma tubaeforme). The product can be used as part of a treatment strategy for flea allergy dermatitis (FAD). DOGS For dogs suffering from, or at risk from, mixed parasitic infections: For the treatment and prevention of flea infestation (Ctenocephalides felis), treatment of ear mite infestation (Otodectes cynotis), sarcoptic mange (caused by Sarcoptes scabiei var. canis), demodicosis (caused by Demodex canis), prevention of heartworm disease (L3 and L4 larvae of Dirofilaria immitis), and treatment of infections with gastrointestinal nematodes (L4 larvae, immature adults and adults of Toxocara canis, Ancylostoma caninum and Uncinaria stenocephala, adults of Toxascaris leonina and Trichuris vulpis). The product can be used as part of a treatment strategy for flea allergy dermatitis (FAD).

from Bayer link

Jackie in Tampa
10-01-2009, 12:20 PM
got stuck with ADVANTAGE MULTI dosed her yesterday cross your fingers:thankyou
I am thinking it will work!:dono
fingers crossed too!

PBluejay2
10-01-2009, 01:23 PM
CATS For cats suffering from, or at risk from, mixed parasitic infections: For the treatment and prevention of flea infestation (Ctenocephalides felis), treatment of ear mite infestation (Otodectes cynotis), prevention of heartworm disease (L3 and L4 larvae of Dirofilaria immitis) and treatment of infections with gastrointestinal nematodes (L4 larvae, immature adults and adults of Toxocara cati and Ancylostoma tubaeforme). The product can be used as part of a treatment strategy for flea allergy dermatitis (FAD). DOGS For dogs suffering from, or at risk from, mixed parasitic infections: For the treatment and prevention of flea infestation (Ctenocephalides felis), treatment of ear mite infestation (Otodectes cynotis), sarcoptic mange (caused by Sarcoptes scabiei var. canis), demodicosis (caused by Demodex canis), prevention of heartworm disease (L3 and L4 larvae of Dirofilaria immitis), and treatment of infections with gastrointestinal nematodes (L4 larvae, immature adults and adults of Toxocara canis, Ancylostoma caninum and Uncinaria stenocephala, adults of Toxascaris leonina and Trichuris vulpis). The product can be used as part of a treatment strategy for flea allergy dermatitis (FAD).

from Bayer link

That's good to know! Especially since it's more available (around here anyway). I'll check my source again--thanks!

EDIT: Maybe the difference is between regular Advantage and Advantage Multi ?

PBluejay2
10-01-2009, 07:07 PM
That's good to know! Especially since it's more available (around here anyway). I'll check my source again--thanks!

EDIT: Maybe the difference is between regular Advantage and Advantage Multi ?


Okay--home finally. My source states, "Imidacioprid [the activer ingredient in Advantage] kills 98% to 100% of existing larval and adult fleas withing 12 to 24 hours of treatment, but has no activity against mites or ticks."

I don't doubt that Advantage-Multi does, however. So if we ever recommend Advantage for use to kill something like mange mites, we should make it clear that it has to be Advantage-Multi. Again, I'm glad to know that it does because very few vets around here carry Revolution any more.

ransacklv
10-02-2009, 09:04 AM
all the vets i spoke with said advantage multi would work for mites -- if this helps . She has stopped scratching and tail looks like she has stopped watching closely... Thanks Jackie for doing all that -- i was worried

merman
10-04-2009, 06:05 AM
Hey, howz the little one doing ?

Any improvement ?

:wave123

ransacklv
10-05-2009, 12:54 PM
yes she is doing better :grouphug still chewing a lil but getting better