HELP! BABY!

[JohnRegsaver]

Baby squirrel found, seemingly healthy estimated age 1-3 weeks ears are starting to pop out and whiskers and nose fur are present,
I found this guy out in the rain and warmed him up and rehydrated him through the course of the night, today i got puppy replacer formula and he will eat but it is hard to get him to want to drink. I don't know if he is lethargic or not, he responds readily to touch or whenever i check to see if he is still alive. he may be clicking but i cant tell, he starts and than breathes normally and there is no clicking while he sleeps. I have had him for just over 24 hours and have tried to feed him every three hours but when he refuses i try again in a few minutes. I cant take him to the vet (to potentially get antibiotics) till tomorrow (DARN BOARDING SCHOOL!) and really really want to make sure he makes it.
he is on a heating pad where he snuggles next to a woll sock and lots of shreded tissue paper.
I have been searching the net all day for answers plz help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[JohnRegsaver]

ALso i know i havnt fed him wrong. i have done one drip at a time very very easily, no liquid or such out the nose.
He also has the dreaded Diarreha, yellowish mostly, he is hydrated i check all the time to make sure he is before feeding (attempted) and atleast once an hour. ( i am prepared to do what ever it takes )

Been reading other posts and i have bactrim its not old its fresh and i need to be told what to do asap my internet is going to shut off at 11:46
What kind of yogurt should i buy and how do i mix it to give the little dude.

[Sideburn2]

I'm going to tell you what most will probably say that you should try and find a rehader in your area.

[4skwerlz]

Hi John. :Welcome to TSB. It sounds like you're doing a pretty good job so far. Do you have any specific concerns about this baby? or are you just generally worried whether he's okay?

Can you post a pic? That really helps us to assess his condition.

[JohnRegsaver]

Thank god i love you guys! i will try to post a pic but my internet at school miht block me from doing it. I can describe him... But first what i really want to know his how to stop his liquid poopy, when i fist found him he was very chilled but upon warming and rehydrating i got him to urinate and defecate and it seemed much healthier and formed poop which he did a few times before now the liquid stuff (which i have been getting him to do regularly at each feeding or slightly after). Im about to give him a thorough cleaning with warm water and the softest tissue i could find :P.. picture coming in a sec.

[Jackie in Tampa]

what does your bactrim say on label? pills?
what was it prescribed for? an animal? a cat?
Dannon All Natural Vanilla or Plain...no sugars added, and no LITE
a dab in his formula will help his gut flora and especiall if using ABs

[JohnRegsaver]

while cleaning i decided to see if he would drink because he was lickling at the washcloth i was holding him in (the same kind i put him in while feeding feeding for associational purposes AP BIO ftw) and he was VIGOROUS! some churps when he finished (one drop at a time) and no clicking im still concerned.
Picture coming just wanted to let you know the good news!
sad news the bactrim is for people it is pills, this probly is not a good thing for him.

[4skwerlz]

"Vigorous" is good. It sounds like you might have introduced full-strength formula too quickly--this can cause diarrhea. Usually we start with it diluted, then work up to full-strength so their system has a chance to adjust. With diarrhea, the risk of dehydration is high, and dehydration can kill a small baby. So you will want to give this guy extra water (warmed) from the syringe between feedings. You should also make sure you never feed too much formula at one time--overfeeding also causes diarrhea. Small frequent feedings are better. We go by the 5 percent rule: 5 percent of the baby's weight in grams per feeding (a 100-gram baby would get 5 ccs of formula per feeding).

As Jackie said, a little yogurt in the formula can help with diarrhea.

[JohnRegsaver]

its diluted and i have been doing small feedings, not too sound like a jerk, I have been doing my research as thoroughly as possible.

[JohnRegsaver]

I have taken and uploaded 6 pictures of him and his setup,
i have given him the ability to burrow and keep out light (to emulate the nest) and to stop drafts have a washcloth draped over his general area of habituation (under the sock he lvoes it there) and some sweat pants draped on top of box (to help with the light)

How do i upload pictures

his most recent fecal matter is a little more formed, (i have been diluting more and more)
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[JohnRegsaver]

ok im going to describe him cause of this photo problem
tip of tail to head aprox 5 inches long, whiskers are in, fur slightly around nose, looks like a healthy baby, all clicking has stopped entirely, still worried though. im going to see if he is hungry in about 2 hours, which seems early but he usually doesnt drink much, will try to feed again in 3 hours if no responce and will wake up every three hours to feed, do i need to do things differently?
it looks like his hair is about to start growing in on the top and his belly is pink, he has little eyebrows kind of and his tail is has some fur (some meaning very sparce and not thick
He is beautiful
OH and i will weigh him tomorrow, i have been going on the notion of how much he wants, while knowing babies sometimes dont know they are full till a few minutes later, he hasnt been very hungry, actually it comes in spurts but i usually get him to eat a little bit every 2-3 hours

[Jackie in Tampa]

http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=81
I am not pc savy...so if this helps, great...otherwise someone will help with details!
sounds good...I know time is of essence here
no wash cloths because of nails snagging
box good...tshirts are the best choice
heat is a must
you are doing great
we love those who research:bowdown
after awhile , because you are changing from mothers milk to formula, he will not poop, but will pee, this is normal, if diareha continues, do as 4sks said and keep him hydrated in between feedings...
not sure where you are and what time it is but we maybe close
hang in there and we both are early risers...so if nothing else...see ya in the morning:grouphug great job!!!!!!!!!:bowdown

[JohnRegsaver]

k i hope my description helped, im using spring water instead of distilled 2 (i was given distilled at start and didnt want to use tap, but now the formula is set i think) will get yogurt tomorrow for sure and weigh him in the science lab.
I will be getting up around 2 and 5:00 because of having to feed him.:osnap
i will also be able to read any additional posts u leave me until 11:46 and will receive others at 5:40 ( i may stay up all night tonight just to be safe, he made it through the first night but i feel that first 48 hours seems critical.
going to try to get pics asap!

[JohnRegsaver]

Darn im so close to posting pictures just need to figure out how to make them a smaller size any know?

[4skwerlz]

Darn im so close to posting pictures just need to figure out how to make them a smaller size any know?

You can resize them using any graphic program, or you can use the photo viewing software that came with your computer, or also Photobucket.

[JohnRegsaver]

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and yes im cleaning him now ><:jump

[SquirrelLove]

It sounds like the baby is healthy to me. And don't forget that the formula you buy should be Esbilac Puppy Milk replacer, NOT FIRST BORN or HARTZ, they DO NOT have the same nutrients that the squirrels need. The Esbillac is expensive, but it will last a long time if you buy the powdered can that is about $25 - $30. I keep my can in the FREEZER so it doesn't go bad. I also use goats milk, half milk and half water and warm it in the microwave, and ALWAYS stir it and then check the temp to make sure it doesn't burn the babies mouth.

But it sounds like your baby is doing well for it's age description!
YAY!

[SquirrelLove]

oh wow, that is a great picture! Such a tiny baby! I'm guessing about 2 weeks old or less. I could be wrong - but that's my guess. Such a sweet thing, and I'm so glad YOU found him / her. You sound like a real caring person. Someone that will take very good care of this little gem!

[4skwerlz]

Your baby looks pretty good. You need to take that heating pad and put it UNDER half of his container...turned on "low."

Some tips for pinkies:


PINKY SQUIRRELS: THE FOUR MAGIC WORDS

WARMTH: a heating pad on low, under half their container (not under THEM) is best. Plastic tubs or terrariums are good because the environment is more humid and their skin doesn't dry out. When feeding a pinky, if your hands are warm you can use tissue paper to wrap and hold him...if your hands are cold, WARM a cloth or glove before picking up the pinky or you will chill him instantly.

HYDRATION: pinkies need hydration in the form of formula -- or Pedialyte in the beginning -- at least every 2.5 hrs. This means getting up at least once during the night. I get up twice, and it still means they will go 3.5 hrs sometimes without food but it's usually ok. If they look flat and skinny when you get up to feed them, you are not feeding OFTEN enough. Sorry kids, it's a rough gig those first 2 weeks.

CONSISTENCY: consistent heat.....consistent feedings....if your schedule is going to make you sporadic or unpredictable in caring for these teeny-weenies, give them to someone who has the time to care for them properly. If you don't have a heating pad, GET ONE, without an auto shut-off. Microwave disks are too unpredictable for pinkies and may cook them. Hot water bottles don't last nearly long enough for these fragile babies.

PATIENCE: Feed pinkies slo-o-o--owly. Very slowly. Teeny drop by teeny drop, preferably with a 0.5 (1/2) cc syringe or a 1cc at the LARGEST. Use a nipple attachment for best results. Go very, very slowly. If it takes you 15 minutes to get half a cc of formula into a pinky, yer doin' it perfectly. This is how we avoid aspiration, the #1 cause of death in pinkies and the reason why "some say" there is only a 50% success rate in saving them.

[JohnRegsaver]

i have that exact formula for puppies of which u speak! found it at one site checked a few more, and than had my AP Bio teacher grab some for me.

[JohnRegsaver]

OMG good it was taking so long to get him to drink even the tiniest ammount lol! i feel so much better and the heating pad is on low already and i would have it under but he gets cold unless he ges under my wool sock, its not a very strong heating pad, but it works i hope xD! im going to load more pics in a sec

[JohnRegsaver]

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[JohnRegsaver]

trying to show how the set up looks its really zoomed in though, the washcloth covers enough to keep out draft and sweats dont touch either (just to block light)

Fruitroll up box is what i orginally had him in on top of heating pad, but he wandered out to get warmer under the sock.

[SquirrelLove]

My babies always wander under a fleece blanket I have in the cage. I have a heating pad on low that doesn't shut off under the cage, then a fleece blanket on the bottom of the cage and another fleece blanket fluffed on top of the other fleece. They are usually between the two blankets. The other half of the cage (large cage) has cardboard on the bottom so they can walk around in there. Mine are much older than yours and are climbing and hanging upside down on branches. Today I put some formula in a little dish for them and they are drinking out of it, but of course I'll still use the syringes on their regular schedule. 2 of my 5 babies are trying to refuse formula and going for the veggies, fruits, cheerios and a few other things I put in for them. Occasionally a peanut - but not many because it's not good for them to eat special treats all the time. :-)

You're doing a great job by the sounds and looks of it !:Welcome:crazy

[JohnRegsaver]

thanks i just finished feeding him again, got my alarm set for 2:30 and will be repeating process all night :P (while checking to make sure he is hydrated). i have mixture of 1srt water 3 tb sugar 1 tbs salt for that. his formula is pretty diluted but i will try the solution inbetween feedings like you guys said. or maybe just warm spring water?

[4skwerlz]

thanks i just finished feeding him again, got my alarm set for 2:30 and will be repeating process all night :P (while checking to make sure he is hydrated). i have mixture of 1srt water 3 tb sugar 1 tbs salt for that. his formula is pretty diluted but i will try the solution inbetween feedings like you guys said. or maybe just warm spring water?

The homemade solution should be fine for tonight. With diarrhea, they need the electrolytes.

Check back in the morning and maybe some of our rehabbers can give you some more detailed advice.

[Jackie in Tampa]

thanks i just finished feeding him again, got my alarm set for 2:30 and will be repeating process all night :P (while checking to make sure he is hydrated). i have mixture of 1srt water 3 tb sugar 1 tbs salt for that. his formula is pretty diluted but i will try the solution inbetween feedings like you guys said. or maybe just warm spring water?
salt...not tablespoon...teaspoon eek!
1 quart warm water
1 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons sugar

[JohnRegsaver]

lol sorry i meant teaspoon ><
its a third of tesugat content.
i put a shirt over the heating pad. he is still alive, im going to try to feed him now.

[JohnRegsaver]

he was hungry this morning :P!!!!!:multi :wott :tilt :rotfl :D :thumbsup :wahoo :thumbsup

[JohnRegsaver]

where can i get a seringe with rubber nipple?:poke :thinking :dono

[JohnRegsaver]

hello?!tinfoil

[kellymarie324]

the syringe you can get anywhere, wal mart walgreens, the nipple at a pet store,

[JohnRegsaver]

k with very soft shirt over the heating pad
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[kellymarie324]

and by the way, my baby was about as old as yours when i found him and i've never used a nipple, and he drinks just fine, and you might try asking the school nurse for a syringe with no needle or if you know anyone who is diabetic they may also have an extra, just no needle (but im sure you already knew that)

[JohnRegsaver]

i asked my nurse but its apperently paraphernalia! im going to go to the headmaster and ask him to make an exeption

[kellymarie324]

even with no needle? that's stupid. did you tell her about the baby? if your school has a sports team the sports medicine guy should also have them. unless the use the school nurse for that too..

[JohnRegsaver]

yea even without the needle and im good friends with the nurse too, ill ask her to talk to the dean, she hold legit power at this school :)
The baby is soo cute when he is sleeping, im going to breakfast cause being a squirrel momdad is hard work and i am starving, the first day i found him i skipped breakfast and lunch to stay with the baby, now since he ate a good meal and wont need to be fed for another hour im going to go crazy in the lunch room BRB!!!

[kellymarie324]

go eat...we dont need you passing out......

[Jackie in Tampa]

good morning John and baby sq!
A syringe can be bought at any vet or feed store, some Pet Stores, some pharmacys'...the best choice would be a 1cc slip tip needleless syringe...don't try for a nippple..elusive item. Like KMarie said, they are not neccessary. Get more than one syringe when you find them.
Glad to hear your sweet monkey was hungry...yipee!
Good Morning!

[JohnRegsaver]

baby seems to be growing, he looks like he is going to get fur soon!
Omg yes! he is starting to get used to the dropper! i put it on his mouth and he began to suck instantly! im going to go whip up some formula!

[Jackie in Tampa]

don't let him suck himself, number 1 reason some aspirate ...going too fast!
Great news...hunger is good!:thumbsup

[JohnRegsaver]

still just mucus and yellowish fluid for poop, the formula is 4 parts water to 1 part epilac. is this too much formula or too little? yogurt will be bought sometime today hopefully

[Jackie in Tampa]

each feeding now will need to be strengthened...are you using esbilac, not anything else...if so, the ultimate will be gradually adding more esbilac until you get full strength...2.5 parts water and 1 esbilac. This should be by night fall. Keep cking for hydration...do you know how to do pinch test between shoulders?
If it stays tented, baby needs hydration...you can do this between feeding...
you are using powder right? making sure we are on same page...the yogurt will help her tummy too.
your baby is very young and needs to be fed every 3 hours.
I'm rooting for you two...good luck and get your supplies, syringe is a jewel!!!:thumbsup
:bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :thankyou :D

[virgo062]

Oh what a CUTIE:D Sounds like you are doing a great job keep it up

[JohnRegsaver]

apparently there is a law against me having a seringe, im using powdered formula and checking for dehyrdration constantly, i should start strengething formula?
Can anyone tell me by how much each step?

[Jackie in Tampa]

if you are doing 4 to 1 ...next feeding or two..go 3 waters to 1 esbilac and a dab of yogurt when you get it...then to full strength, 2.5 water to 1 esbilac.
The can says full strength is 2 to 1 but we found it creates diareha...so SQS full strength is 2.5 water to 1 esbilac...hope that makes sense...
Try a feed store for the syringe and talk to any vets office, they may give you a couple for freee....tell ALL that you are raising a rat baby...not sq...i think Virginia is an illegal state...so you have a RAT!!!!!:D
Are you planning on keeping and raising this RAT, or are you looking for rehabber...

[JohnRegsaver]

oh yea im so dumb thinking its a squirrel, clearly it is a rat
i plan on moving to canada...
im not sure yet, i can have the time to feed him around the clock and everyone in the dorm loves him, ill probly release the rat behind our house where we can watch him when the time comes.

Can someone help me find out how to get certified as a rehabber, if it takes years im willing to start learning the ropes, this summer im going to work at a rehab center near my house, i already have over 400 hours working at the national zoo in D.C. with excellent recommendations so i think i can get a job or just volunteer pretty easily. I have raised and released many baby birds, and i think i might want to rehabilitate for the rest of my life :]

[Jackie in Tampa]

you're young and smart...be a vet!!!!!:D
alot to raising rats...and thinking that he will need to be overwintered...others will help you with that info...today we need a syringe for your rat, did you name said lovely baby rat????
ps. volunteering at zoo...most excellant!

[squirrelsrule&bunniestoo]

I think someone already told you, but make sure the little tyke isn't laying directly on the heating pad, he will get too hot. I would put him in a shoebox with holes poked in the top and give him a cozy blanky to sleep in in the box and put the heating pad, set on low, under the box.

Sounds like you have had a lot of experience dealing with animals, I wish you the best of luck with this little tyke. He will probably need to be overwintered... you may want to start thinking of how you want your outdoor cage to be now (you will need one for a rehabber permit) so it will be ready for him when he is older. If you volunteer at a rehab center, it would be a VERY good idea to see if they will let you take home 1-2 squirrels to go with your guy because raising singles is never a good idea, it takes them so much longer to grow up and they never fully understand that they are a squirrel or learn everything squirrels need to know. They learn so much from eachother.

[JohnRegsaver]

yea i read about them needing a sibling, i actually found 2 babies but one was at the point of no return, i rehydrated it and stayed up all night but it was breathing weird and had scrapes, i almost saved him, but he died around 5 am of this first night. I burried him in a flower garden.
But his brother seems to be doing well i tried heating pad under box but it wasnt warm enough for him (this heating pad is fairly weak) it is on low and covered by the fleece like cover they come with and a shirt which i replace once a day because i also have ripped up tissue baby for him to nuzzle in, which makes him soil the shirt.
I havnt thought of names yet, been really focussed on giving him everything he needs and keeping him safe, healthy and comfortable(im glad i atleast got to make his sibling comfy before it passed). But i think im going to name him...
Stuart, it seems a proper name for a proper squirrel :rotfl

[JohnRegsaver]

his schedulled feeding is in about 15 minutes so after that gets done im going to find my AP bio prof and have him get me the yogurt (specific yogurt) and this weekend im going to have my granpa find me a syringe (i just wont tell them i have it) but until than the dropper feeding as been going well.
I modified one dropper so that the formula stays closer to the end of the dropper so it is easier for him to drink, it doesnt pour out still needs to be dripped. I know im feeding him right (no aspiration) but i have been filling up the droppers with waters and dripping one drop at a time into a small cup just to get the exact feel for how much pressure to apply when he is being an aggresive feeder :jump
I will keep asking questions and keep you guys posted with pics daily
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HELP!!!!!!!:thankyou :thankyou :thankyou

[Jackie in Tampa]

so far you are getting an A+....
love Stuart:thumbsup
RIP baby brother squirrel

I will send you syringes...give me address quick so i can get to PO...will they screen your mail...???
of course will have to wait til prob tuesday or wed to recieve, but I will send them today....if I can make PO before closes...calling now to see when they do close on saturday..PM me your address if you are comfortable
my local closes at noon...but airport po stay open til midnighht!!!!! yippee

[virgo062]

I used a dropper with mine while they were still pinkies I have just graduated to the syringe with the o ring and it's great. The problem I had with syringes for my past babies is the glide it was not smooth and I could not control it but I ordered some from squirrels and more and they are fantastic. I still feed my runt "knot head with the dropper because he refuses the nipple but he is not agressive at all. While mine were on the syringe the two that just tried to swallow the entire tip I would give a small drop then pull it back I would not let them suck on it and eventually they would just lay there and let me control the feeding I had very few milk nose incidents but if you do just turn him upside down immediately, wipe his nose and don't continue until you are sure the milk is out then love on him and kiss him repeatedly. So sorry to hear about your other baby RIP precious angel. You are a good foster parent keep it up and come back to this site often

p.s don't mistake "clicking"for "purring" and be a dummy like me

[JohnRegsaver]

another successful feeding! he didnt urinate or poop but i think he has probly done it somewhere on my shirt, going to go get me some yogurt for him now!
thank you for all your support and help again!

[Jackie in Tampa]

ah hum...john can i send a package to you?????

[JohnRegsaver]

this is the size of the droppers i am using how many cc would be the estimate? how much formula should he be drinking at each feed, to warm up i i tilt all milk to end of dropper (where u squeeze) and dip that in warm water and test heat on my wrist, i tilt milk back to opening before feeding begin to reduce chance of bubbles forming or spaces inbetween milk
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[JohnRegsaver]

so far you are getting an A+....
love Stuart:thumbsup
RIP baby brother squirrel

I will send you syringes...give me address quick so i can get to PO...will they screen your mail...???
of course will have to wait til prob tuesday or wed to recieve, but I will send them today....if I can make PO before closes...calling now to see when they do close on saturday..PM me your address if you are comfortable
my local closes at noon...but airport po stay open til midnighht!!!!! yippee
sorry for delayed reaction i have to go to classes, they wont screen my mail and i will get my address asap TY SO MUCH!

[Jackie in Tampa]

do not post addy on open board..PM it to me...in the upper right hand corner...better to just click on my name here in this thread, it will give option to pm me...
fighting Lucky sq, he wants to type too! arrr!

[JohnRegsaver]

Ok i will PM it lol i already posted it than saw that you wrote that so one moment

[Squirrely in Alabama]

The pipette you are using will work fine, just be careful of his/her mouth, the tip on those pipettes are sharp. Be sure and wash very well, no old formula remaining.

[JohnRegsaver]

right! how much of that should he have though 1/2 1/3 1/4 1/5, im not talking about the whole pippete just the big squeezer part (thats what i use to judge

[JohnRegsaver]

Okay! and now i have the YOGURT! how much do i put in to the formula oer serving and how often? Plz reply soon feeding time is in half an hour and i want his flora strong asap!:multi

[Jackie in Tampa]

The pipette you are using will work fine, just be careful of his/her mouth, the tip on those pipettes are sharp. Be sure and wash very well, no old formula remaining.SQIn Al...it is not ok! We advise all to use 1cc syringe, most aspiration pnuemonia is from using WRONG equipment.
We have an intro forum, http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18
where you can tell us about yourself:thumbsup

[Jackie in Tampa]

hard to judge..somewhere between half and full, bulb only. add almost pencil eraser size dab of yogurt ...not too much though.
I am almost ready to leave John...feed Stuart and kiss him for all of us! You're doing great
remember hold him upright , not tilted back, if milk comes out nose, tip nose toward floor for a few seconds and wipe excess from nostrils. Go slow, I know you are!:grouphug
Feed every three hours! and keep him warm...
can I ask how old you are...I am so proud of you...unless you are 30!!!!...then I guess I am still proud of you:D

[JohnRegsaver]

lol i turned 17 eight days ago, it is feeding time now, but i cant get the yogurt for a while because my teacher is helping coach some freshman sport for today, we have it now and the feeding after this he will get it!

[JohnRegsaver]

hmm still liquid poopy should i go back to lower formula? this time it was yellow liquid with bubbles in it, does this mean he might be sucking down air? he drank about 1/3 of the pippette, hope that isnt a sign of bloat, im only going to just use the modified pippette that reduced any chance of milk spaces. Im going to rub his belly incase he does have some gas.

[JohnRegsaver]

after feeding i gave him some warm water just to be safe. Do i need to switch to a different puppy milk replacer? i read that the babies literally starve to death despite being fed constantly, plz give me an answer soon im very worried:dono

[JohnRegsaver]

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i also found that it should be golden yellow and solid, its golden yellow but not solid. im going to feed im diluted with yogurt this next feed if noone responds

[Jackie in Tampa]

Hello John and Stuart!
I am back!....
are you using esbilac puppy milk, then you are doing the best and closest to mothers milk. stay with it!
John...has it occured that if something happens, you will need a back up plan, Plan B emergency.
Thinking he gets sick, someone wants him GONE!...someone calls wildlife officers.
I know we are safe today and all is going good:bowdown :grouphug ...but I also know that SOME states euthanize immediately when they confiscate...and I don;t want to go there....but reality is Stuart is crossing the line and we need to protect you both! We must seek a rehabber just in case. I will try to find a list that you can call, you must be discrete and never tell anyone wwhere you are and who you are when calling them and asking questions.
It is not what we want, but it is sensible.
Poops...ok, try diluting the formula a bit more. I will ask a rehabber what they think and will be back about that. I can say that sometimes their bodies need to catch up so to speak. Does he seem dehydrated? have you done the pinch test lately?
thank you for caring and don't let him interfere with school or he may get you in trouble.:sanp3

[JohnRegsaver]

ok he seems pretty hydrated, im not letting him get in the way of school, they always euthanize in VA every single time, im giving him warm water in bewtween feedings and have the yogurt now which i will introduce at 5:30 ETS. i just got hyped up when everyone was gone and i needed avice, he is stronger and accepting formula and water more regularly, he doesnt trick a full or half a bulb, (at most 1/3), he seems pretty good, the liquid poopy just bothered me,
how much should he be urinating?

[JohnRegsaver]

and i have full permission to take care of him

[Nancy in New York]

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[Nancy in New York]

Sorry, I'm in a hurry here, and can't read all, but are you stimulating him? Probably if you see that he is urinating...
He's a cutie for sure....:grouphug

[JohnRegsaver]

yes im stimulating him
but its usually a few drops 2-5 and i know that he sometimes pees in his bedding

[JohnRegsaver]

moving him into a small box and more bedding with heating pad on bottom for safety.

[JohnRegsaver]

cant make a rice buddy for another 15 minutes probly.., anything else i could put in the sock?

going to whip up some formula with yogurt now!

box might need a minute to warm up... going to hold im in my hands so he doesnt get cold

the box feels warm to me but he wont stay still now i dont think it is warm enough, going to just put double sock im microwave for now

i put a shirt over some of the box to help insulate he has settled down and is napping

[JohnRegsaver]

ok he is nuzzled under the warm sock, exact mixture for this feed is
3.5 tsp water
1 tsp formula
about a pencil earaser of yogurt. i dont expect him to drink this all obviously :D

[JohnRegsaver]

all right, he peed a good ammount i think, and i think i understated the ammount before just a little bit (ammount of urine). He drank formula readily, hes a little slow about not searching the planket for nipples....but he drank about 1/3 of a full bulb which is what he usually drinks and i am starting to think is a good ammount for him. i'm going to get rice for a new ricebuddy now... i will give him warm water (further diluted 3 tsp sugar 1 tsp water mix, so as to not mess with his formula) in about an hour and a half. Plz keep the advice flowing, i feel way more confident when people are talking to me about the baby and what to do, my mom is going to bring me some "p-d light"
tomorrow to replace the warm water sugar salt solution.

I love him.:tilt
wow i just realized how tired i am from all this loving! running over to grab rice buddy and some dinner!!!

[island rehabber]

I love him.:tilt
wow i just realized how tired i am from all this loving! running over to grab rice buddy and some dinner!!!

John, you are SO one of us.....:Love_Icon :tilt

[JohnRegsaver]

awe thank you so much i feel like i'm one of ya'll :D
i got the rice and am filling sock now, how long do i microwave it for?
incidently, 2 cups coffee(black), 4 cups water, 2 cups 2% milk and 3 steaks is i think the perfect squirrel parent formula
your going to love this picture, i discovered him this way when i got back from dinner, the flash went nuts on me so i had to adjust colors a little
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[virgo062]

These photos are cracking me up:rotfl You are doing a fine job just calm down it's going to be alright.....:jump Keep the pic coming

[JohnRegsaver]

yea i was pretty frantic earlier, lol, i think it was partially cause i was exhasted! :osnap but i do need to know how long to microwave sock buddy (rice in sock) for and how often to reheat.:tilt

[JohnRegsaver]

OK since rice buddy is made and i dont want to spam this channel, because i want every squirrel to get the best oppurtunity to survive, im moving all posts to Nursery! Plz keep following stuarts progress i will update more often than daily most likely.... im posting there now about sock buddy2, with a picture... TY SO MUCH EVERYONE!
:jump :jump:wahoo :jump :jump :wahoo

[Nancy in New York]

Awe he is one lucky little squirrel....

http://thesquirrelboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19265

[Nancy in New York]

Do you have him on a heating pad...you know on low with the box half on and half off incase he gets too warm? Also, see if your mom can perhaps get a 1 cc syringe without the needle, they should sell that to her from a drugstore, and perhaps in a pet supply place she can find some sort of nipple? I know that Jackie is sending syringes, is she sending nipples too for you? Do you need anything else? I have lots of fleece if you need some, they do tend to sometimes wet their bedding so perhaps extra stuff would come in handy so you don't have to do squirrel laundry so often....You are doing great....

[BHO]

I agree with Jackie, be a vet, a wildlife vet.

BTW, some pharmacies, in grocery stores, or Target pharmacy will give away dosing syringes for free. Kmart, I know will charge for them. Just go to the pharmacy counter and ask for dosing syringes 1cc and 10cc. If the nosey pharmacy or assistant ask, just tell them is it for a puppy :) That is what I used to do, until I bought some for myself.

Good luck and GB.

[JohnRegsaver]

okay! thank you for the excellent advice!

[SkwerlGirl]

if i can be of any help, i'm in NC!!

good job!!! :thumbsup

[JohnRegsaver]

i have a new thread running if you want to catch up on all that is happening with stuart and i will absolutely want your help/opinions/advice. the more watching over stuart the better!

[JohnRegsaver]

the thread is in nursery, im trying to leave this channel open for emercenies only and stuart i can safely say no longer such!