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Ardilla
03-14-2009, 04:11 PM
I noticed one of my jasmine vines is blooming. Is this OK to give Penny?

Pam
03-14-2009, 05:08 PM
Hi Ardilla, jasmine is on the list of toxic plants. http://www.sniksnak.com/plants-toxic.html

Ardilla
03-14-2009, 05:15 PM
Yikes! Good thing I asked!

I need to print that list out.

gs1
03-14-2009, 08:03 PM
omg!!! yes!!! good thing you asked, although i'm sure you wouldn't have given it to her anyway.

And you probably need a list of safe flowers .... like i'm thinking roses and hibiscus that you grow yourself and never, ever spray or let neighbours - mist/spray over ... (like from fruit trees etc.)

i think that some lists - list - carnations as toxic and others don't so i'm staying safe and not feeding them to my rabbit.

I'd be very careful with pesticides etc.. penny is too small to be able to absorb a whole lot of them ... (see my point?)..

Actually now that i think of it... i've had jasmin tea .. maybe it's a different jasmin and maybe because i'm such a big giant it's ok for me.

all the best.

Ardilla
03-14-2009, 08:08 PM
Yeah, I already give her hibiscus and bottle brush from my garden, but we hadn't had any jasmine till this weekend because Hurricane Ike took down the fence our jasmine trellises are on, and the plants are just now coming back.

I wouldn't have given her any without checking, obviously (hence this post).

Pam
03-14-2009, 08:31 PM
And you probably need a list of safe flowers
Here's a list of non-toxic plants.

http://www.sniksnak.com/plants.html

Ardilla
03-14-2009, 08:41 PM
WOAH! I just checked for hibiscus and bottlebrush on those lists, and hibiscus is listed as TOXIC! :eek:


http://www.sniksnak.com/plants-toxic.html


I checked before giving her hibiscus and was told it was OK.

4skwerlz
03-14-2009, 09:58 PM
Most of these lists are for cats and dogs. Squirrels can eat many things that are toxic to cats and dogs. If hibiscus were toxic to squirrels, all our pet squirrels would be dead.

I think to be on the list of "squirrel safe" plants, it needs to meet three criteria:

1. Wild squirrels eat it.

2. Known to be fed to pet squirrels with no bad effects.

3. Not on the list of foods that are toxic to rodents.

You can find a list of plants toxic to rodents here: http://ratamania.50megs.com/2002/April/midapril/midapril.html

Some toxic plants for rats:
Almonds (kernel in the pit contains cyanide) **I QUESTION THIS ONE
Amaryllis bulb
Anthurium
Apricot (kernel in the pit contains cyanide)
Autumn crocus (Colchicum autumnale) VERY POISONOUS
Avocado (leaves, seeds, stem, skin)
Azalea (entire rhododendron family)
Begonia
Bird of Paradise
Bittersweet
Bleeding heart
Boxwood
Bracken fern
Buckeye
Buttercup (Ranunculus)
Caffeine
Caladium
Calla lily
Castor bean (can be fatal if chewed)
Cedar
Cherry (kernel in the pit contains cyanide)
Chinese sacred or heavenly bamboo, contains cyanide
Choke cherry, unripe berries contains cyanide,
Chrysanthemum (a natural source of pyrethrins)
Clematis
Crocus bulb
Croton (Codiaeum sp.)
Cyclamen bulb
Delphinium, larkspur, monkshood
Dumb cane (Dieffenbachia) severe mouth swelling,
Elderberry, unripe berries contains cyanide
English ivy (All Hedera species of ivy)
Fig (Ficus) General allergan, dermatitis
Four-o'clocks (Mirabilis)
Foxglove (Digitalis), can be fatal,
Garlic (raw or spoiled)
Golden pothos
Hyacinth bulbs
Hydrangea contains cyanide,
Holly berries
Iris corms
Jack-in-the-pulpit
Jimson weed
Kalanchoe
Lantana liver failure
Lily (bulbs of most species)
Lily-of-the-valley can be fatal,
Lupine species
Lycoris
Marijuana or hemp (Cannabis) can be fatal,
Milkweed
Mistletoe berries
Morning glory (Seeds toxic)
Mountain laurel
Narcissus, daffodil (Narcissus)
Oak (remove bark for use as a perch) I QUESTION THIS ONE
Oleander, very poisonous, can be fatal,
Onions (raw or spoiled)
Peach (kernel in the pit contains cyanide)
Pencil cactus/plant (Euphorbia sp.) dermatitis,
Philodendron (all species)
Pine I QUESTION THIS ONE
Poinsettia (many hybrids, avoid them all) dermatitis
Potato (leaves and stem)
Pothos (Golden)
Red Spider lily (Lycoris)
Rubber plant
Rhubarb leaves
Rosary Pea (Arbus sp.) (Can be fatal if chewed)
Sago Palm
Scheffelera (umbrella plant)
Shamrock (Oxalis sp.)
Spurge (Euphorbia sp.)
Tomatoes (leaves and stem)
Tulip
Yew (yew product)

muffinsquirrel
03-14-2009, 11:51 PM
I feed carnations to my flyers all the time, so if they were toxic they would all be dead by now.

muffinsquirrel

mojoandvoodoo
11-18-2021, 11:40 PM
Most of these lists are for cats and dogs. Squirrels can eat many things that are toxic to cats and dogs. If hibiscus were toxic to squirrels, all our pet squirrels would be dead.

I think to be on the list of "squirrel safe" plants, it needs to meet three criteria:

1. Wild squirrels eat it.

2. Known to be fed to pet squirrels with no bad effects.

3. Not on the list of foods that are toxic to rodents.

You can find a list of plants toxic to rodents here: http://ratamania.50megs.com/2002/April/midapril/midapril.html

Some toxic plants for rats:
Almonds (kernel in the pit contains cyanide) **I QUESTION THIS ONE
Amaryllis bulb
Anthurium
Apricot (kernel in the pit contains cyanide)
Autumn crocus (Colchicum autumnale) VERY POISONOUS
Avocado (leaves, seeds, stem, skin)
Azalea (entire rhododendron family)
Begonia
Bird of Paradise
Bittersweet
Bleeding heart
Boxwood
Bracken fern
Buckeye
Buttercup (Ranunculus)
Caffeine
Caladium
Calla lily
Castor bean (can be fatal if chewed)
Cedar
Cherry (kernel in the pit contains cyanide)
Chinese sacred or heavenly bamboo, contains cyanide
Choke cherry, unripe berries contains cyanide,
Chrysanthemum (a natural source of pyrethrins)
Clematis
Crocus bulb
Croton (Codiaeum sp.)
Cyclamen bulb
Delphinium, larkspur, monkshood
Dumb cane (Dieffenbachia) severe mouth swelling,
Elderberry, unripe berries contains cyanide
English ivy (All Hedera species of ivy)
Fig (Ficus) General allergan, dermatitis
Four-o'clocks (Mirabilis)
Foxglove (Digitalis), can be fatal,
Garlic (raw or spoiled)
Golden pothos
Hyacinth bulbs
Hydrangea contains cyanide,
Holly berries
Iris corms
Jack-in-the-pulpit
Jimson weed
Kalanchoe
Lantana liver failure
Lily (bulbs of most species)
Lily-of-the-valley can be fatal,
Lupine species
Lycoris
Marijuana or hemp (Cannabis) can be fatal,
Milkweed
Mistletoe berries
Morning glory (Seeds toxic)
Mountain laurel
Narcissus, daffodil (Narcissus)
Oak (remove bark for use as a perch) I QUESTION THIS ONE
Oleander, very poisonous, can be fatal,
Onions (raw or spoiled)
Peach (kernel in the pit contains cyanide)
Pencil cactus/plant (Euphorbia sp.) dermatitis,
Philodendron (all species)
Pine I QUESTION THIS ONE
Poinsettia (many hybrids, avoid them all) dermatitis
Potato (leaves and stem)
Pothos (Golden)
Red Spider lily (Lycoris)
Rubber plant
Rhubarb leaves
Rosary Pea (Arbus sp.) (Can be fatal if chewed)
Sago Palm
Scheffelera (umbrella plant)
Shamrock (Oxalis sp.)
Spurge (Euphorbia sp.)
Tomatoes (leaves and stem)
Tulip
Yew (yew product)

Source for marijuana being fatally dangerous?

Mel1959
11-19-2021, 06:07 AM
Are you questioning if marijuana plants or seeds are dangerous to squirrels? Yes, I would say they could be depending on the amount consumed. CBD oil is not and has been used on squirrels with no ill effects.

mojoandvoodoo
11-19-2021, 07:13 AM
Are you questioning if marijuana plants or seeds are dangerous to squirrels? Yes, I would say they could be depending on the amount consumed. CBD oil is not and has been used on squirrels with no ill effects.

Nope I’m asking for any source that says any part of the marijuana point could be possibly fatal

mojoandvoodoo
11-19-2021, 07:48 AM
Nope I’m asking for any source that says any part of the marijuana point could be possibly fatal

I’d also be interested on the sources for the oak, pine, and Cedar

I know the bedding is dangerous and that acorns are but I am interested in why the whole tree would be on the list

Mel1959
11-19-2021, 08:51 AM
I’m not sure what the source was of the original posted list. I see the poster questioned the validity of pine oak and cedar trees. This list does state that cannabis plants are harmful. I also believe this list is for dogs and cats, not squirrels and the poster stated that squirrels can consume some plants that are toxic to dogs and cats.

Squirrels in the wild instinctually know what to consume and what not to consume. The problem arises when we bring items from outside in and put them in our squirrel cages.

Dinomacc
11-19-2021, 11:15 AM
Um...lol. Loki has a cedar branch in her house since she started climbing. She chews on it as well and she's fine. Ps I took all the leaves and green off of it before I put it in her house.

Chirps
11-20-2021, 12:08 AM
To be honest, this list had me scratching my head. The list is for rats. I have no idea how it was determined that these are all toxic to rats, but fair enough. While it seems a good rule of thumb to not feed these to squirrels out of caution due to assumed? observed? similarities in these species, it seems that squirrels and rats aren't entirely the same regarding safe and unsafe foods. I know from personal observation that at least two of these are eaten with gusto by my wilds.

Peach pits-- The damn squirrels eat the tiny baby peaches, pit and all, never allowing them to grow into what I try to tell them would be much tastier if they'd only wait. :nono :shakehead Sometimes if a peach eludes them and gets a bit bigger, they gnaw through the outer shell to eat the inside meat. I find these chewed-open outer shells here and there in early to mid summer, generally as soon as they become noticeable to the squirrels. Now maybe there's hardly any or no cyanide at all in these tiny peach pits, and that's how the squirrels get away with eating them. Or maybe squirrels have a higher tolerance for cyanide than other animals. :dono
That said, I sure wouldn't try to get a captive squirrel unripe peaches as some special delicacy treat just because my wilds seem to enjoy them.

Yew-- I have observed new out-of-the-nest babies teething on yew branches. Also squirrels eat yew berries. Is it something they shouldn't eat but can get away with if they don't eat too many, or are they just not toxic to squirrels? :dono :thinking <--- I find myself using these particular smilies frequently.

Dinomacc
11-20-2021, 09:37 PM
Starting to think Henry's is paying promotional fees to everyone on here...

stepnstone
11-21-2021, 01:02 AM
Starting to think Henry's is paying promotional fees to everyone on here...


They wouldn't need to...
Henry's has been a life saver for many a squirrel with both their products and research.
They and it deserves the recognition. :great

island rehabber
11-21-2021, 07:10 AM
The entrepreneur/creator and owner of Henry's Pets, 4skwerlz, is one of us. A TSB member from waaaay back.

She found two baby squirrels, came here, learned everything she could. She observed how difficult it was to maintain a healthy diet for tree squirrels in the long term. She decided to create a product that had never been created before, and it works. I've been feeding them to my rehab squirrels for over 10 years.
:great