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Doodles
09-09-2008, 09:01 PM
Apologies if this should have gone under non life threatening help. I got in a new Western Grey this afternoon, He weighs 302 gms, the woman who found him said he fell to the ground last night (she heard the thump), her dog went over and picked him up, but promptly dropped him when she yelled at him. She was afraid to handle him, so she covered him up and left him overnight. This am he had moved, but when she got home midmorning, found him in her pool partially supported by a liner. She pulled him out, brought him inside and contacted us. As I was preparing to give him his initial hydration, I observed the onset of a seizure starting with the left eye only blinking rapidly following by tonic clonic movements of his left upper extremity. I had to leave the room to get the honey, which he lapped, and I followed with po RL. He resisted the full amt of RL, so I sq'd him with the remainder. He seemed moderately dehydrated and somewhat thin. Again, with 2nd hydration, he suddenly curled into a ball, rigid with generalized shaking, lasting about 30 secs. Again, some honey, followed by oral RL. He is not obtunded following these episodes. He moves all extremities, is positioning himself in the basket, his eyes are bright (I can't see pupil response with flashlight, they just seem all black), no skull deformity or bruised nose, lungs are clear, and he seems fairly vigorous, and sweet! No pee or poop with stimulation. I'm planning to give him 1/4 strength esbilac with next feeding. I also gave him bioplasma. Should I be doing something else? Thanks.
Jackie in Tampa
09-09-2008, 09:28 PM
:grouphug Thank you, someone will be on shortly to help you. Can you post a pic of him?:grouphug I recommend a quiet dark covered place and if you have a heating pad set on low, half under the container you have him in.
thank you and you are doing great.:Love_Icon
Apple Corps
09-09-2008, 09:30 PM
Doodles - the only thing that comes to mind is edema that could be treated with dexamethasone - not sure the Hx / Dx indicate that yet though.
Doodles
09-09-2008, 09:57 PM
Right. I was wondering about a calcium deficiency, not sure why he would have that, though he seems a bit malnourished. I'll just continue supportive care. He's been on heat and in a quiet room, blanket over basket. Seems to love the heat! :dono
Doodles
09-09-2008, 10:36 PM
Several pictures after taking 10cc 4:1 esbilac. No seizure observed. Still no pee or poop, he just conks out.
Apple Corps
09-09-2008, 10:44 PM
Are you diluting 1 part Esbilac with 4 parts water ?
Doodles
09-09-2008, 11:06 PM
Yes.
Apple Corps
09-09-2008, 11:19 PM
Doodles - that sounds too weak. Are you diluting the normal Esbilac strength by using 1 part normal Esbilac 3 and parts water?
Doodles
09-10-2008, 01:01 AM
Yes, I always start 1st feeding with 1 part esbilac to 4 parts water, then go to 1 esbilac/3 water and then 1 esbilac to 2 parts water, just to make sure their systems can tolerate it. That's how I was taught, how do you do it?
wheezer
09-10-2008, 01:25 AM
Your little squirrel looks like a fully weaned or close to it! Seems hydration is the most improtant thing and you are doing this just fine. Also sounds like a head injury which can correct itself. Others here are more familiar with seizures than I and can help more. They might suggest some solids to help. I doubt if he is calcium deficient since he has been a wild squirrel.
You seem to know what you are doing and others here can help about seizuring information. Good Luck:grouphug .....and welcome:Welcome
Apple Corps
09-10-2008, 01:36 AM
It may well be a head injury as wheezer mentioned. For the diet part - I'd have him on richer mixture in the morning - he is a big boy and needs more nutrients IMO.
Doodles
09-10-2008, 09:10 AM
:) My boy is looking good this am, fully alert and active in his basket. He took 7cc of 3:1 formula before major resistance to more. Blankets damp in basket, no poop yet. No further seizure like activity observed. My thought is to transfer him to a low level cage this am, offer some soft solids and continue with formula offered at frequent intervals, and see how he does. Feel better about him today. Thanks for all the advice.
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