View Full Version : Help! Bloating/Won't eat
DebsRoxy19
08-18-2008, 08:44 PM
Hi, I just recently rescued a baby squirrel when she fell out of a tree about a week ago. Shes about 3 weeks old and was doing GREAT (Eating about 2-3cc's every 2 hours, pooping/peeing regularly after feeding, and staying hydrated)
I've been VERY VERY cautious about feeding her, due to the emphasis put on the common cases of aspiration pneumonia, but just last night I brought her up to a 5cc syringe (Was looking for a 3cc but was told this would be the smallest I could find at a pharmacy and my 1cc was not working properly anymore). The formula seems to pool slightly around the edge of the syringe and make contact with her nose while shes sucking on the tip, and I couldn't tell whether she sucked the milk in, or it came up through her nose, but there was definitely something in there... scared the hell outta me, yet the baby was calm and just wanted to keep on feeding.. regardless I insisted on tipping her upside down and I don't think she was very happy...
Anyhow, it freaked me out so much that I took her to the vet this morning to check for fluid in the lungs and the vet said I was taking excellent care of her and she has a great heart beat as well :)
After the vet I noticed some slight "coughing" noises (liquid in the lungs that the vet didn't hear while listening to her breathing?), and she seems to be making more squeaky noises than before (Don't know if this is a development thing or not) and almost as if shes "talking." Its cute, but it concerns me that there may be something wrong. Also not eating well anymore, only about a half to a full cc per feeding every 3 hours or so... then I noticed her very bloated and hard belly... tried soaking her waist down in warm water and this doesn't seem to be working... peeing a lot, no pooping or relieving gas.....
Should I be feeding her while trying to relieve this? She definitely doesn't want the formula and turns her head and pushes it away... I heard I should skip a feeding but wouldn't six hours without formula be harmful... I've even heard replacing 3 meals with pedialyte.... so 9 hours without formula??? Ugh, don't know what to do but I want my lil baby to be okay! Going to the vet this morning really lifted my spirits on her health, but now I'm just not sure again! Please help!!
Thanks guys, sorry soooo long, just want to give all the details on roxy! :thumbsup
Willing to do anything to help this little one have a happy and healthy life!
LynninIN
08-18-2008, 08:57 PM
What you are describing does sound like textbook aspiration pneumonia. It's really hard not to aspirate the overzealous eaters. Perhaps Roxy didn't develop enough of the pneumonia for the vet to hear yet when you took her in or they weren't experienced with squirrels. I think that Roxy needs antibiotics as soon as possible.
There is an excellent, kind, very experienced rehabber in Chicago Heights that can help you. Would you like their contact info? If you are set on raising the baby yourself, we will do the best we can to help you online.
island rehabber
08-18-2008, 09:01 PM
Also, her bloating is probably due to feeding her too often. The only time you ever feed every two hours is with neonates -- 1 to 5 or 6 days old. (I don't even feed those guys that often -- maybe every 2.5 hrs.) At three weeks she can easily go 3.5-4 hrs between feedings. I think that may be what messed her up a bit to begin with.
LynninIN is right -- a good rehabber can get her on antibiotics immediately, which is what she needs to beat the pneumonia. Good luck! :)
DebsRoxy19
08-18-2008, 09:14 PM
Thanks so much for the replies. I really am set on raising this baby myself, but if I can't get antibiotics without giving the baby up, then that is what I'll have to do. I'd much rather her get the care she needs rather than watch her get progressively worse. Is there anyone I can contact about getting these meds/instructions for special care to heal her without giving her away to the rehabilitation center? :thankyou
Also, I will space out the feeding to about every 4 hours, as suggested.. after the bloating is relieved to some degree anyway..
LynninIN
08-18-2008, 09:18 PM
Only if the vet that saw her today is willing to prescribe antibiotics. Can you call the vet tonight?
I need to sign off for about 30 minutes then will be back.
island rehabber
08-18-2008, 09:27 PM
Only if the vet that saw her today is willing to prescribe antibiotics. Can you call the vet tonight?
Yes -- I can't stress enough to you, DebsRoxy19, that if her breathing is audible the pneumonia is very bad and she needs antibiotics ASAP.....preferably BAYTRIL. (Works faster -- fellow rehabbers. please don't remind me about "affecting the long bones of Great Danes" or "creating superbugs" please, this baby needs the BEST drug NOW.)
DebsRoxy19
08-18-2008, 09:29 PM
:( Unfortunately the vet said they are not licensed to prescribe medication for wildlife so he could check Roxy out, but wouldn't be able to give treatment, if necessary. I was relieved to hear that she was alright, but now hearing this makes me not so confident. :shakehead I've heard several cases of squirrel rescuers getting medication and still keeping the little guys until release.. how is this possible? It seems like I've shaped my whole life for the past week on this little one, many sleepless nights, but definitely worth it!
This makes me sad!
In the meantime, should I hold off on the feeding and switch to pedialyte if she accepts it? Is she now more susceptible to aspirating the fluid?
Hi
First you must tackle the bloat before feeding again. Can you place the baby on heat? Massage and her sides gently downward. If you have access to baby simethicone ( anti gas med for infants ) I would administer a drop of that. How much does she weigh? What formula are you feeding? A 5cc syringe is not safe for little ones under 200 grams. Each tap or click on the 5 cc is 5 times the volume of liquid from your 1cc. Ask your vet for a 1cc.
Is the noise you are hearing coming from the chest? Is it a deffinate clicking sound in time with her breathing? or is it more nasal? Nasal noises are not dangerous just uncomfortable. It's the chest noises we need to be concerned about. Hold her up to your ear.
island rehabber
08-18-2008, 09:35 PM
Keep her very warm and feed her very very slowly.
Do you have any type of antibiotic at home -- for a dog or cat, maybe? Even amoxicillin is better than nothing. Do you have doxycyclene maybe for yourself, or penicillin or even Cipro? Cipro is Baytril, for humans......
Again, giving her up to a rehabber with access to antibiotics ASAP may be literally a matter of life and death.
DebsRoxy19
08-18-2008, 10:04 PM
Thanks! Yes, the baby has been on a heating pad on low since I got her, and cuddled up in teeshirts. I first started her on pedialyte for dehydration, then slowly added diluted esbilac puppy power with four parts water, then 3..2.. and now I'm at about 1 and a half. I've heard about adding a half part whipping cream, which I just purchased today, but she only took in about a half cc of that mixture with the whipping cream, so I'm debating using it again. I heat all her formula to about 99-100 degrees, and boil the water to sterilize it before mixing with the powder. She weighs somewhere in the 60-70 gram range, and is just beginning to grow white hair on her legs and belly, and has slick brown and white hair growing everywhere else.
The sound I'm hearing literally just started today, and just last night was my "scare" of aspiration pneumonia, just when realizing she probably snorted some of the milk off the rim of the syringe. It isn't a clicking sound at all, just a sniffly, sort of "allergy" sound. Sometimes almost as if she sneezes every once in awhile. Nothing to do with the chest-- yet, anyway.
I went back to the vet today and picked up a 3cc and 1cc syringe to feed with, and there is no contact with the rim of the syringe and the baby's nose, but this obviously doesn't resolve the bloating problem. I will be even more careful than I was when feeding now. I am going so slow that the baby seems to lose interest after every half cc or so and I have to keep trying for about 45 min to get the full 3cc's necessary.. Definitely a process
Is there a possibility that the baby has become dehydrated again at some point and not digesting the formula as a result? The skin doesn't seem to tent for more than 2 seconds, but I'm trying to factor in everything possible at this point
If theres no reply about getting baytril somehow, I will bring her to a rehabber in my neighboring town tomorrow! :( :(
LynninIN
08-18-2008, 10:43 PM
I don't know a way of getting Baytril without a vet prescription or from a rehabber. It is the best choice in this situation but the ones Island Rehabber listed are good alternatives.
It doesn't sound like Roxy is dehydrated. No, I wouldn't add the cream in right now. Is the sneezing sound all the time or only after you feed her?
DebsRoxy19
08-18-2008, 11:31 PM
Thanks for the welcome! :jump
I've been repeatedly bathing the baby and making sure to keep her warm... not successful in making her poop yet, but I will continue to try! I'm getting very paranoid though, although I believe I am over exaggerating a bit, considering I was just at the vet this morning.... but you're right, they are not licensed for wildlife, although this particular doctor did work with baby squirrels when he was in school.
As for the "sneezing" its only after she eats. She seems to turn her head and swat the syringe away after a few drops. I know I shouldn't force it on her, but how much time should go by before I have to feed her pedialyte? And come to think of it, I just introduced the full strength esbilac last night, and this is when this behavior began, could this be an indication that she simply wasn't ready for the full strength?
I'm curious as to how some of you members own baby squirrels that need care without giving them up? It seems a lot of people get their hands on baytril somehow? Your replies are much appreciated, as always :D
Sorry for all the questions! And thanks again!
I'm a wildlife rehabber for the state where i live. But I try not to use antibiotics unless it is the only chioce. I perfer Homeopathy. Do you ahve a health food store near you? If so and you are interested I can pm you some info on what I do and how. :)
DebsRoxy19
08-18-2008, 11:55 PM
Yes I would really appreciate that Mars! Thanks!! :)
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 12:08 AM
unfortunately I don't think I can use my messages yet, since I am a very new member! But please keep in touch because anything I can pick up for roxy will be a huge help!
trying to get them turned on for you now. :thumbsup
Copy and paste this info. :D I will not leave it on the open board for long. I'll explain later my concerns about doing so if you like. :)
Sciurus1
08-19-2008, 12:20 AM
Don't bathe this baby to to pee or poo, but use a cue tip dipped in warm water, to just rub on the genitals to stimulate it to go. It lowers the body temperature when they are put in water, so it is definitely something you should not do to them.
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 12:24 AM
Thanks SOO much! I'm yet to read that info, but I pasted into a word document so you can delete! I'm getting more and more hopeful for this little one :) I'll read and reply shortly!
ahh you're awesome!! :flash3
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 12:36 AM
Do you recommend simethicone (baby gas drops) for a quick fix? I am considering going out and grabbing this at the 24 hour walgreens because its almost midnight here and nothing else is open!
Yes, But it truely is just a drop. For a 70 gram baby 0.14cc is the dose I calculate.
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 12:54 AM
On my way to go get it! :thumbsup
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 01:31 AM
okay i gave her a little less than .14cc like you suggested, just in case I was a bit off on the weight. She really liked it though! :) How long til I see a possible improvement do you think?
And Mars, you were saying if I don't hear a clicking sound and mainly just sniffles after she eats, it isn't likely to be pneumonia right?
Sorry I'm annoying!
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 01:50 AM
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baby roxy... day I found her.. about two weeks old
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 01:54 AM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30331506&id=1148520070
Good morning
How is Roxy this morning?? Hoping for good news here. :)
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 09:02 AM
Good morning :crazy
I only slept about 3 hours, probably because I thought I was going to wake up to a sicker squirrel :dono
However I was VERY happy to see that he pooped several times, and I just tried again, and successful... BUT.. the tummy bloating doesn't seem to have gone down much. Initially it slightly had, but I did give him a few cc's of pedialyte, and by few, i mean literally .10-.30 cc's... I did this when I saw the simethicone started to work.. And to my surprise, he actually wanted to drink it, which I hadn't seen in quite awhile!
Should I have done this? I feel like I should be getting at least something in her belly... And as far as the 'pneumonia' scare goes, I'm going to a pet store that I am HOPING will carry silicone nipples that fit on my 1cc so I don't have to wait for shipping.. I'm thinking this will cut down on her sucking too fast? :thinking
FallensMommie
08-19-2008, 11:05 AM
HI! I just to say :Welcome
I see you are in good hands with our rehabbers so I will let them do their jobs...they are excellent at what they do.
As for some of us getting Baytril....we live in legal states to have these squirrels so one trip to a vet that sees and treats squirrels and we have our meds if needed.
I have only found 2 vets in my local area that see and treat wildlife.
FallensMommie
08-19-2008, 11:25 AM
This is very true under normal circumstances, but for a bloated baby, the warm water, along with massaging, can help a lot. Just make sure after every bath, you dry the baby completely, put it on a heating pad, and cover it completely with a blanket. It holds the heat in, and keeps them warm until they are dry. :)
When Fallen got bloat once.....I did the warm bath massage a few times in one day. I kept a towel and a fleece blankie on a heating pad so when I was finished bathing I could use a warm towel to dry him off and then onto a heating pad he went wrapped in the fleece blankie already heated for warmth.
He was fine after that day...and when I gave him the bath and messaged him for several mintues I started at the top of the tummy did circular motions and then rubbed from tummy down toward anus to help relieve some of the gas.
It worked as he blew bubbles from below like a kid tooting in a bathtub :D
Good Luck with your little one :grouphug
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 11:28 AM
Thanks for the welcome :) Everyone is super nice here, and you've all been very helpful.
I will update on how shes doing, right now still slightly bloated, but did poop quite a bit and will tolerate only a few drops of pedialyte. I'm on my way to get a nipple tip for my 1cc syringe in hopes that she will take in more fluids... But these things are just about impossible to find at local pet stores! Waiting for shipping just doesn't seem like an option right now.
That would make sense Fallensmommie, thanks a lot. I just wish these little guys were legal in Illinois! I would love having access to the care she needs, whatever that may be, without having to give her away :shakehead
I'm trying to find a rehabber that will prescribe this medication, but also I'm not into getting anyone into trouble doing this.. so if its not possible and it turns out she does in fact have aspiration pneumonia, I will gladly hand her over.. shes such a sweetheart:Love_Icon
Thanks again for all the support! I will be back shortly :flash3
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 11:30 AM
haha awww thats cute! I will try the tummy circles! Thanks!
FallensMommie
08-19-2008, 11:33 AM
Thanks for the welcome :) Everyone is super nice here, and you've all been very helpful.
I will update on how shes doing, right now still slightly bloated, but did poop quite a bit and will tolerate only a few drops of pedialyte. I'm on my way to get a nipple tip for my 1cc syringe in hopes that she will take in more fluids... But these things are just about impossible to find at local pet stores! Waiting for shipping just doesn't seem like an option right now.
That would make sense Fallensmommie, thanks a lot. I just wish these little guys were legal in Illinois! I would love having access to the care she needs, whatever that may be, without having to give her away :shakehead
I'm trying to find a rehabber that will prescribe this medication, but also I'm not into getting anyone into trouble doing this.. so if its not possible and it turns out she does in fact have aspiration pneumonia, I will gladly hand her over.. shes such a sweetheart:Love_Icon
Thanks again for all the support! I will be back shortly :flash3
Nipple are hard to find. What I did was buy a kitten nurser bottle with several nipples in the package....threw out the bottle as it is to easy to aspirate them with it. Cut teeny hole in the nipple....Fallen hated the length so I took another nipple and cut a hole in it to slip over the nipple with the teeny hole to shorten the nipple he was to nurse off of. It worked beautiful!
The nipples you will just have to see if they like the length or not and adjust accordingly like I did. If I still have the nipples I'll post a picture of what I did to adjust the length.
FallensMommie
08-19-2008, 11:44 AM
Okay here is a pic when he was small....he hated the length of those elongated nipples and I used a nipple with a lot of length because I like the overall size of nipple he was to suck from....so I used the full length nipple and then cut 2 nipples to fit over it to shorten the length. As he got older he graduated to a fatter nipple then I only fitted one cut nipple over it to shorten the length.
The hole in the nipple the squirrel is to be sucking from needs to be small.
I hope this helps...I did this when I had nobody to turn to, I hadn't found the TSB board and was coming up with nipple ideas, solutions on my own. He didn't like the syringe itself and woudn't eat from it...so I had to resort to one drop at a time which caused him to fish gulp and suck in air...that's how he became bloated so I came up with this nipple solution. He fish gulped a few more feeding sessions and then stopped to get a full latch on to the nipple and ohhhhhhh it made feeding so much easier. Still must go slow to prevent aspiration.
I hope this pic helps! Probably what some would consider Redneck style :rotfl
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/floridatlc/Family%20pictures/DSC05242.jpg
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 01:18 PM
Oh thats great thanks! I ended up finding the bottle kit like you described, and there was only one size nipple that fit my 1cc syringe, but I will definitely try adjusting the length with one of the others provided, thats a great idea! Probably gives the baby something to hold onto as well.
As for the pedialyte, I warm it in a mug full of hot water and test it before I offer it to the baby. Its the unflavored pedialyte because I was told to purchase this, but I'll have to give the flavors a try! It sounds like a good idea, maybe extra incentive for the baby to ingest it :)
Like I mentioned before, she isn't taking too much in at one time... if she only takes about .30cc of pedialyte each time, how often should I offer it to her? I don't want to make her tummy bubbles worse :Cry
How do you get all of the bubbles out of the syringe before feeding? I can't seem to get them out, even when I flick the syringe a bit and let some fluid flow out..?
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 01:53 PM
okay, I just tried feeding her with the nipple idea, no luck :dono
This makes me sad.. She used to like the pedialyte.. even more than her formula most times. I will try the flavored pedialyte and hopefully have better luck.. ugh :(
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 02:15 PM
Just got a call from a rehabber willing to take her.. mentioned she can't see the animal without confiscating it.. understandable due to license rules... but I don't want to give her up if I absolutely don't have to! Not yet at least :shakehead Rehabber suggested I try one more drop of the simethicone... What do you think??
What can I do? please help! :dono
NaturesGift
08-19-2008, 02:23 PM
If I were you I would just do what you know in your heart is best for your baby. If saying goodbye is the best way to help her then so be it. The ultimate Love is looking past yourself and just at Roxy.
No one can make the choice for you. *praying for you and Roxy*
FallensMommie
08-19-2008, 02:29 PM
When was the last time you did give her the simethicone? I gave Fallen a couple drops during the day but by the next day he was better and back to normal.
With any new nipple it takes time and patience.
If she doen't seem to be getting better I wouldn't hestitate to hand over to a rehabber ASAP. These little ones when they get sick can die rather quickly...they are small and their body's just give up rather quickly...especially if they have aspirated pneumonia. Rehabbers deal with these babies all the time and have the know hows to help them when they are sick.
Good luck with her...sometiemes we have to save their lives twice by handing them over to somebody else who can help them when in need.
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 03:08 PM
Sad but very very true, and thats exactly what I will do if she doesn't lose these air bubbles in her tummy within a few hours. I gave her about .10 cc this time of the simethicone, if that. I'm being very cautious.
The first time she pooped several times but the bloat did not diminish completely... I was confused.
I'm gaining some hope.. she just pooped 3 times and took 1cc of pedialyte.. after she warms up for a bit I'll try again :) I'm thinking 3 more full cc's of pedialyte and if positive results, reintroduce formula? (4 parts water of course)
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 03:10 PM
Sorry.. 3 more feedings of pedialyte, I meant.. Thenn formula
We'll make a rehabber out of you yet. You are doing a great job. :thumbsup Yes, once the bloat has cleared you can start back on a dilute formula ( 1 in 4 ) and slowly come back to full strength over a period of maybe 3 days. I would encourage you to consider adding Bioplamsa to your formula twice daily for a while until all is normal. I would also suggest adding up to 1/2 part organic live cultured yogurt to your formulas, too. This will add probiotics not found in the esbilac. :)
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 03:50 PM
Thanks.. you guys really know how to make me feel better :) :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou
I am SOO happy, Roxy has just become a pooping MACHINE! haha, thats something I never thought I'd say... out of all the things that can make a person happy.. but yay!!
I'll post a pic of her tummy... it doesn't look nearly as bloated.. well, you tell me what you think.
She just sucked down another cc, going for a third in about ten minutes
:poop :bounce2 :poop :bounce2 :poop :bounce2 :poop :bounce2 :poop :bounce2 :poop :bounce2 :poop
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 04:55 PM
Haha oo I'm a fan of the poopy dance... I think thats what I looked like when she finally went!
Hmm I can't figure out how to attach pictures :dono but anyway, if the bloating is considerably better, should I feed her formula this next feeding or two from now? I don't know how much 'flushing' is needed
Thankkss:Love_Icon
We'll make a rehabber out of you yet. You are doing a great job. :thumbsup Yes, once the bloat has cleared you can start back on a dilute formula ( 1 in 4 ) and slowly come back to full strength over a period of maybe 3 days. I would encourage you to consider adding Bioplamsa to your formula twice daily for a while until all is normal. I would also suggest adding up to 1/2 part organic live cultured yogurt to your formulas, too. This will add probiotics not found in the esbilac. :)
:D Not to repeat myself. But as Gb said try her on a little dilute formula 1 part in 4 at her next feeding and see how she does. :)
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 05:40 PM
Thank you! Oh god thats terrible.... I hate people like that. Sounds awful, but seriously, how can you not love squirrels? Any animal for that matter. Ugh. People are sick. Anyway, I will be posting pictures soon and updating on how she does :D
FLUFFYTAILNUT
08-19-2008, 07:17 PM
OH..GOODY...good news..i was coming in here expecting sad news..im glad things are working out well...
i stimulated before and after feedings...
i also did belly rubbings... gentle rubbings...after every feeding i held my bean...*when he was baby* i held him wrapped in two puffs plus tissues..and gently burped him..my husband would come out into the kitchen..and his eye s half sealed...he would see me 'burping bean'....he shook his head and said.."oh my god..you are not burping that..squirrel.?!.i thought i had seen it all.."
he turned back around ...walked back into the bed room and went to bed...:rotfl :jump
it took me 3o minutes per feeding..all the steps...but well worth every step..
im glad everything is working out...good work!:peace
rachel n bean..(my 1 year old inside male grey):wave123
DebsRoxy19
08-19-2008, 08:06 PM
Thanks so much for the advice!! Haha awww thats a very cute story. Bean sounds like a sweetheart! I can't say I've ever tried burping the baby, but whatever works! :thumbsup I'm glad shes happy and healthy at one year!
I just fed Roxy 3cc's of formula diluted 1 to 4, and everything was great but it looks like she has mild diarrhea... I've heard this means she is dehydrated, but I'd like someone to tell me exactly what to give her/when so poor roxy doesn't blow up like a balloon again :D
What would I do without you guys?? :jump
:Love_Icon
FLUFFYTAILNUT
08-19-2008, 08:36 PM
with diareah..id do..the steps already given...follow..what 'the experts have experienced...with diareah....your right you dont want to go through that bloating again...
diareah...if not handled quickly...can turn..into sadness...
rachel n bean....he is a healthy n happy boy...:thumbsup :alright.gif
Gammas Baby[quote]
I would make the formula up for the next day, the night before, and let it sit in the fridge overnight. That will let it settle and there should be no bubbles left in it. You have to get all the bubbles out, or you're going to have big problems with bloat, and the poor little thing will get a terrible tummy ache.
Feed your baby the Pedialyte just like you would the formula, only your using Pedailyte instead. Only do this for today, and see if the bloating has went down anymore by tonight. NO formula until we get the bloat down. Your baby probably isn't taking the Pedialyte because it has no flavor to it. Get the flavored, and I bet you'll have a lot better luck. You're heating it the correct way. :thumbsup
NaturesGift
08-20-2008, 12:17 AM
:poop way to go!!!!!!!!!!
I hope the diarrhea clears up soon!
Mandie
DebsRoxy19
08-20-2008, 10:26 AM
:sanp3 Roxy is hesitant to eat now... she kicks around like crazy when I'm feeding her, whether she turns her head or keeps sucking. It makes it very hard to hold her... and when I wrap her up in her fleece she just wiggles out..
She used to stay pretty still while I fed her, and now I feel like I'm forcing her to eat... Should I be concerned? I'm still pushing the syringe very very slowly, so I only get a couple drops in before she gets bored and turns her head...
Last night I fed her half a cc, thats all she would take, then set my alarm for an hour later, one cc, then 3 hours later, which is now, so far got 1cc in, and going for two more once she warms up a little bit more. It makes it difficult that she won't tolerate eating unless I'm just about holding her head, because it becomes more than an hour long project, so I have to keep putting her on her heating pad between fill ups to avoid from getting chilled. Ugh
FallensMommie
08-20-2008, 11:31 AM
Hang on till a rehabber gets on...I know I have heard them state having a little one take longer to eat because they wiggle etc.
I cant help on this issue as I have only raise one squirrel and I had no problems with him wanting to eat.
Hang on a rehabber will be with you soon!
FallensMommie
08-20-2008, 11:39 AM
If she is going to far between feedings she maybe getting so hungry that they kind of wind themselves up to feed and wiggle and struggle etc. and it makes feeding harder.
At 2 weeks of age I was feeding Fallen every 2-2.5 hours....I feed him when I found him rouching around to nurse. If he was sleeping and 2 hours or 2.5 hours approached I would leave him alone for another 1/2 hour and sure enough he would start rouching around in that 1/2 hour block to feed.
I know you are on a delicate balance with doing the pedialyte and then working up to full strength formula. It may be if she is still getting diluted formula she is getting hungry sooner than the time in between feedings.
I hope a rehabber can come on to clear things up.
island rehabber
08-20-2008, 11:46 AM
Debs if you wrap her up in the fleece but leave her arms out she may quiet down, but should still remain warm enough. You might also try leaning her on your knee (she's still wrapped up) so that she feels something solid under her feet -- once in awhile a baby will not like being held in mid-air as it makes them insecure. With my littlest one (Angel) I sometimes have to hold her head because she won't stop wagging it :shakehead. They usually outgrow this phase -- hang in there!
DebsRoxy19
08-20-2008, 12:11 PM
Aww thanks! Yeah, sometimes I have to hold her head still while I feed her, and she always manages to wiggle out of the fleece. I will try setting her on my knee.
I never thought the fact that her formula is diluted that she could be hungry sooner.... I guess I was just being careful because the whole reason she got bloat from the beginning was the too frequent feedings. I was going about every 4 hours... So maybe cutting it down to 3.5 would be good?
Is it possible to give a cold to a squirrel? Sorry if thats a stupid question, but when I get done bathing her to warm her up faster I kinda breathe a little hot air on her while I'm wrapping her up... What I thought was aspiration pneumonia initially, seems to be only slight sneezes every once in awhile... and I have been sneezing like crazy myself... hmm :dono
Oh, and her diarrhea went away completely, it must've been just the side effect of simethicone like you mentioned! Thanks a bunch! :thumbsup
FallensMommie
08-20-2008, 01:37 PM
Aww thanks! Yeah, sometimes I have to hold her head still while I feed her, and she always manages to wiggle out of the fleece. I will try setting her on my knee.
I never thought the fact that her formula is diluted that she could be hungry sooner.... I guess I was just being careful because the whole reason she got bloat from the beginning was the too frequent feedings. I was going about every 4 hours... So maybe cutting it down to 3.5 would be good?
Is it possible to give a cold to a squirrel? Sorry if thats a stupid question, but when I get done bathing her to warm her up faster I kinda breathe a little hot air on her while I'm wrapping her up... What I thought was aspiration pneumonia initially, seems to be only slight sneezes every once in awhile... and I have been sneezing like crazy myself... hmm :dono
Oh, and her diarrhea went away completely, it must've been just the side effect of simethicone like you mentioned! Thanks a bunch! :thumbsup
I'll let IR answer the in between feedings when the formula is diluted...to me if it's diluted then it would pass from them more quickly...really no substance to keep belly full longer.
IR...can you chime in on this one, or another rehabber :thankyou
As for a cold.....we say wash hands as not to pass anything on to a baby.
If you believe you might be coming down with a cold refrain from blowing on her.
island rehabber
08-20-2008, 02:19 PM
Yes she certainly will be more hungry taking diluted formula. Her franticness should subside as you get her back to full strength formula.
rusty's mom
08-24-2008, 03:41 PM
I don't know if it was mentioned before but I always found it better to use a 1cc and keep filling it or the baby gets to much at a time and snorks. I also think you could try waiting a little longer in between feedings.
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