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Aurora
07-29-2008, 11:29 PM
I am a secret admirer of many wild eastern gray squirrels here in a suburb of Philadelphia, PA. Since May of this year, I went to a natural pet store (you may have heard of it - Cutter's Mill) I had been buying those big squirrel cakes made of corn kernels, sunflower seeds, and peanuts. I think it was called Kaytee Corn O'Plenty. Of all the squirrels that came to our porch for a snack, our girl squirrel, Nutkinina, was the most frequent. She munched on the cake morning, noon, and evening. Sometimes, she'd eat for about a half an hour and then lie down on our porch and take a little nap.

This behavior went on for weeks. However, two weeks ago I was very concerned about Nutkinina! She came by and while she was eating, I watched her fall over on her side. She just fell over like the leaning tower of Pisa! Her eyes were open and she was breathing, but she seemed like maybe she was choking or something. So I opened the porch door to see if she'd let me help her if she was in trouble. She jumped up and ran to the edge of the porch and sat there. After about five minutes, she returned to the cake and began eating again for another 20 minutes. THEN SHE COLLAPSED AGAIN. Her front hands were clinging to the cake and she seemed very nervous and scared. Finally, she managed to pull herself up and she began walking sideways, brushing up against our porch door (which is very unusual) and then she jumped onto the roof on her way home.

Thankfully, she came back the next morning and she was back to her old self. I haven't seen her collapse since. I have numerous theories about why she might have collapsed, but I'm wondering what you all think. Maybe you've seen this before.

1. She might have metabolic bone disease because she might have been eating the cake as her sole food source. I have not bought a squirrel cake since and have opted for putting out a few raw, roasted, unsalted peanuts, filberts, raw almonds, and blueberries. I read that blueberries and almonds have a decent calcium content. I also read that wild squirrels regulate their own nutrition and diet. However, it seems Nutkinina might not be doing a good job of getting a balanced diet.

2. She might have been dehydrated. It was a hot day...90 degrees or more. I do have a little water bowl out there for my babies. I once suffered from heat stroke and I actually had to force myself to get a drink of water. Maybe she was feeling dizzy due to heat stroke, too.

3. She has worms/parasites. Her tail is much thinner than the other squirrels that come by. She was actually like this when I first saw her. Could this be a sign she has another ailment? I know she has fleas...she's always itching! Poor girl!

What do you think is wrong with Nutkinina? Is there anything I can do to help her? Any thoughts would be extremely helpful! Thanks!

Here's a photo of my little girl squirrel, Nutkinina:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/lcbecker/SHe-MUGg6-I/AAAAAAAAAXE/lkE3XY2CIPk/IMG_3040.jpg?imgmax=640

-Aurora

FLUFFYTAILNUT
07-29-2008, 11:40 PM
She is beautiful....
:Welcome Welcome to the Squirrel Board...glad you became a member...:Welcome

Ill let the experts tell you their recomendations..on her issue's.

I have a one year old Florida Grey (male) squirrel he is my inside/pet/family member....and the furry love of my life...RULES..my life thats for sure!!

Welcome..and see you around the Squirrel Board....Keep those pictures..:flash coming!!
:wave123 Rachel n Bean:wave123

Apple Corps
07-29-2008, 11:49 PM
Aurora - welcome and


STOP FEEDING HER THAT JUNK !!!!!!!


In simple terms - it will lead to her poor health and death.

Gammas Baby will be on shortly to advise you on the proper diet.

TexanSquirrel
07-30-2008, 12:45 AM
:Welcome You've got a very cute fuzzer there! Gamma has posted some very good nutrition advice for you. :thumbsup

Apple Corps
07-30-2008, 12:45 AM
Aurora - can you catch your lil fuzzer or is she hands off?

How do you know she has worms or parasites? We can treat those very effectively.

foxsquirrels
07-30-2008, 12:48 AM
:goodpost What wonderful information! I have printed this off and will be sharing with my fellow rehabbers and squirrel lovers.:thankyou
It sounds like you are doing a wonderful job!:bowdown I hope Nutkinina feels better real soon! I'll be watching for more on her condition. She is adorable.:Love_Icon

Aurora
07-30-2008, 10:42 AM
Thanks so much, Gamma's Baby, for all the information! It's helping me make up my grocery shopping list today!

I forgot to mention in my original post that since the squirrel cake ran out more than two weeks ago, I've been putting out a small variety of food for them to eat:

Raw-roasted-unsalted peanuts: Everyone loves them (even my husband!).
Filberts: Everyone loves them, too!
Almonds: All my little boy squirrels will eat them, but Nutkinina peels the orange "shell" off of them and then leaves a peeled almond on my porch.
Acorns: There are numerous oak trees lining a shopping center across the street from me, so to save them a dangerous trip across a busy road and parking lot, I collected them for my babies. Unfortunately, my squirrels hate them. They pick them up, pull off the hull, and then drop the acorn in disgust.
Carrots: Nutkinina thought these were evil and wouldn't even pick them up.
Blueberries: Nutkinina likes blueberries and I get a kick out of watching her eat them. My boy squirrels are sort of indifferent to them. They'll eat them if they're the only thing left.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/lcbecker/SJB6SZnoqWI/AAAAAAAAA94/jSdUigkOsy8/IMG_4073e.jpg?imgmax=512
Broccoli stems: Nobody was interested in those.
Romaine and Red Leaf Lettuce: Nobody would even touch it!
Sesame Seeds: I just put them out today at Gamma Baby's suggestion. Our boy squirrel, Nutkin, sniffed it and then went on his way... Picky squirrels!


The biggest dilemma I'm having, other than providing them a balanced diet, is "portion control." I have a total of five wild squirrels coming by. I try to put out a little at a time - 2 peanuts, 2 filberts, 2 almonds, and a handful of blueberries. This, I feel, is more than sufficient for one squirrel. Once one squirrel has eaten that much, I put out 1 peanut, 2 filberts, and two almonds and if all the blueberries are gone, I put more out. The problem is that I have to constantly look to see if everything has been eaten. (I'm a teacher so at least I have a lot of free time on my hands in the summer to watch and feed my squirrels!). AND...Nutkinina stops by numerous times a day to discover, "HEY, MORE GOODIES!!" She'll be on her third "meal" and have eaten everything and then poor Nutkin or Jumper comes by and they are eating her crumbs! It's so sad! If I put a lot out, she'll probably just stay for 2-3 hours devouring all of it!

To answer your question, Apple Corps, I don't know if she has parasites or worms. I was just saying it could be an explanation as to why she collapsed. She is not touchable. She is still very much a wild squirrel, although she is the tamest of all my visitors. She's learned that food comes to the porch from behind the glass doors. So now she lets me open the door to put food out without running away, but keeps a good 3-4 foot distance.

-Aurora

TexanSquirrel
07-30-2008, 01:53 PM
Kids and candy...:nono Somehow you've got to get that girl to eat some greens!

Apple Corps
07-30-2008, 02:46 PM
Aurora - your scenario is much like ours - free in the trees fuzzers that decide their menu on the fly - portion control - right :shakehead :shakehead

Can yo tell us a bit more about the worms / parasites that you are concerned about?

Aurora
07-30-2008, 03:29 PM
Apple Corps, I don't know if she has worms/parasites. I was just suggesting that it is possible she MIGHT have this issue since she collapsed and has a very thin tail. It was just a thought. She's probably fine since she has such a voracious appetite!

-Aurora

Apple Corps
07-30-2008, 04:54 PM
Aurora - thanks - lets see how the change in diet goes - you might see improvement in a couple of weeks if diet related.

atlantasquirrelgirl
07-30-2008, 06:07 PM
Great input so far. The thing I noticed immediately was the thin tail, which could be diet, or fighting a disease/infection. The balance problem could also be an inner ear infection, which may also explain the thinning tail.

Does she eat "normally," meaning no head tilting while chewing, or signs of breathing problems/sneezing?

Aurora
07-31-2008, 10:52 AM
I think she's eating normally. I haven't seen her tilt her head or anything. She's not breathing strangely and if I heard a squirrel sneeze, I'd be excited...that's gotta be cute! I've only heard her cough and that was weeks ago when I still had the squirrel cake out. In fact, before she collapsed, she coughed which is why I thought she might have been choking. But when I opened the door, she jumped up and so I thought, "Okay, well, I guess she's not choking then."

Here's some pictures of her eating yesterday. This is the one thing she's been doing recently - lying down while eating. I think it's just her being squirrely :-)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/lcbecker/SJHLOwxSZMI/AAAAAAAAA_c/NddK-sfRPpM/IMG_4259e.jpg?imgmax=800

http://lh3.ggpht.com/lcbecker/SJHLn1xyCrI/AAAAAAAABC8/zsRjuFL7YgQ/IMG_4299e.jpg?imgmax=640

atlantasquirrelgirl
07-31-2008, 06:30 PM
That's the "squirrel splat," which is what they do to cool their tummies down.