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muffinsquirrel
08-16-2006, 12:31 PM
I posted this on another board this spring, but I wanted to put it on here, too. Although it is written about flyers, it goes for ALL squirrels.

I am always glad when someone becomes a new HOF,(Human Owned by Flyer), and absolutely thrilled when they come here to learn all they can about their new pet. But I am very concerned that many do not seem to really 'get' the responsibilities that they are taking on. A flyer can live 15 years or more - that's longer than some of these possible owners have been alive. Flyers are fairly easy to take care of, as far as housing and feeding are concerned, but they take a huge commitment in time and attention. You can't just love them and bond with them for a couple of months, and expect them to love you forever. If you turn them over to someone else to care for, they will bond with that person. I read so often that 'I want a flyer soooo badly...but maybe I'll get a glider or a bunny or a water buffalo instead'. I can guarantee you that if you get a flyer for any other reason than that you love and adore them for what they are,(not what you think they will be), you will soon loose interest, and your pet will end up (if they're lucky) in the nearest equalivant to my Wild Bunch cage - a home for life for flyers that became unwanted because they bit or peed or pooped or wouldn't play when their owners wanted them to. Or worse, being let loose in the woods to 'be wild', when they no longer have any idea of how to fend for themselves. A flyer is not like a dog or a cat - you do not let a flyer into your life and home. Instead, you turn your life and home over to a flyer, and any changes that are made, are made by you, not the flyer.

The thing that worries me the most is all the kids that are getting a flyer knowing that they are going off to college soon. They seem to be planning on leaving them for someone else to take care of, or keeping them illegally at school. They don't seem to realize that if someone else takes care of the flyers, then the flyers are going to bond with that someone, and not with them. And taking them to school - well, it probably wouldn't be that difficult to sneak them in, and to disguise the cage. But the thing that none of them seem to be considering is the fact that they will be living in a dorm full of other kids. Kids that are going to come in their room when they aren't around and 'play' with the flyers, which can quickly lead to lost, stolen, injured and/or dead flyers. Or the fact that sooner or later (probably sooner) someone will certainly get mad at them about something and turn them in for having a pet. College is a time for parties and dates and fun before childhood is gone (and maybe a little bit of studying), and not a time to be tied down to taking care of a pet that needs out-of-cage time every night. And flyer-proofing a dorm room isn't gonna be the easiest thing in the world, either!

Having a flyer in your life is one of the most rewarding things you could imagine, but PLEASE!!! make sure you are going into it for the right reasons, and with at least a vague idea of the commitment you are making. Don't just think about how cute and cuddly they are when they are babies - think about the flyer, and whether it is the right time for you to become an owner.

I'm sorry if I have 'stepped on any toes' here, but this is something that I have been concerned about for some time now. While I love to see the happiness of a new HOF when they get their pup, I love even more
to see the happiness of a flyer that is cared for as it should be.

These are my own opinions, not necessairly those of other members of this board.

muffinsquirrel

Momma Squirrel
08-16-2006, 12:41 PM
Muffinsquirrel I agree with you 100%, flyers are the best pets to be owned by. But you have definitely got to be committed, their play time is when you want to sleep, doesn't matter you have to love them and appreciate them enough to stay up later or be woken up at 2:00am just because they want to play, no exceptions. If you are willing to change your sleeping habits and provide for them they way they should you will get tremendous happiness, love and joy for as long as they are alive. Squerly and I were so fortunate to have our flyer, Chipper, for 13 wonderful years. We still find ourselves preparing and planning for things we do depending on if it would be suitable for Chipper. We hope soon to have another one or two and will enjoy all the nights we are woken up at all hours just cause he wants someone to spend time with, the toes being bitten and yes even when he runs under the covers to what you think is bonding time just to find out he needed to pee LOL You dry it up look at him and say that's my boy.

In his slower months as he approached his last days, Squerly and I took turns as to who stayed in the bedroom at night, we knew that we would not get much sleep and had to be prepared to be aware of where he was and what was going on at that time. We were glad to do this and hope that our next one will live even longer and when the time comes we will certainly do what it takes to make his life easier and knowing that he is loved.

Sorry to have rambled, I just miss the little guy so much and it is a difficult day for me anyway. Damn these hormones LOL

adams29303
10-09-2006, 08:55 AM
Thank you so much for your wonderful words of advise. My sister just found a flyer the other night & brought him to me. I have successuly raised several squirrels but i don't know a think about flyers. can you give help me with a formula recipe? I've tried the scaled milk formula, no luck. I have put pieces of apple, pecans, bread, sunflower seeds in his cage but no luck.

I called a rehab place this morning and the lady wanted me to meet her in a shopping mall and just had him over. (Something just didn't add up, so NO WAY) If I can't get him to eat today I will have to try another rehaber, but I really would like to keep him. I'm willing to make adjustments, after all raising baby gray squirrel is no picnic. (But well worth it) I have one now Mr. Wiggles how is just wonderful.

Any help would be much appreciated. HELP!!!

Delete_Yourself
04-30-2008, 02:13 PM
im actually having a hard time getting one and i think its due to my age. i just turned 21, on the 27th actually. i dont go to school, i dont party, drink, smoke, or do any drugs or anything like that. i have a boyfriend, that i adore and live with. since ive fallen in love with him ive been having these stupid feelings. .....like, i feel the need to be taking care of something and i do NOT want a human baby, at this time in my life but am wanting a animal baby. im a cat girl who can never have one again due to my boys lame need to breathe and im scared of dogs. ive done the reptile thing, the bunny, hedgehog, hamster, turtle, frog, and ferret thing but im looking for something different. I do have an Axolotl names Oni, that I love but i want something that needs me and that will bond to me,something that will show me affection, something to raise and something to whisper secrets too and i feel like a flyer is a good choice for me. also, my boyfriend is thinking about joining the navy and i dont want to be lonely. ive written people emails about buying a flyer and never get emails back. i think its due to my age and its annoying.
cross your fingers for me.

Sarabi
04-30-2008, 02:22 PM
Good luck, May I ask what an Axolotl is? Pics please:poke

Delete_Yourself
04-30-2008, 02:57 PM
Good luck, May I ask what an Axolotl is? Pics please:poke

i would love to show you pix of her but theres always a glare i cant seem to get rid of.
an axolotl is a lot like a mudpuppy, a salamander before it reaches adulthood. like a big tadpole with hands and feet and inside out gills that look like a pink feathered headdress. mine is all white with pink gills and eyes and has peachy freckles. the big difference is that axolotls never change into salamanders. they live under water and never come up to land. they live up to 25 years and are endangered in the wild. i actually had to buy her from a lab. shes super cute. eats goldfish in one bite. shes already 10inches big. shes a cow.

Sarabi
04-30-2008, 02:59 PM
WOW! very cool

cr8zyanimalgirl
04-30-2008, 03:04 PM
WOW can't wait to see pics.

Delete_Yourself
04-30-2008, 03:07 PM
http://www.elacuarista.com/secciones/images/axolotl_albino.jpg

http://www.bountyfishing.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/axolotl-fish.jpg


mine looks like this but with pink eyes.

cr8zyanimalgirl
04-30-2008, 03:08 PM
Weird looking things I can see why you don't bond with that.:sanp3

Feeze
04-30-2008, 03:10 PM
Hmm... any relation to this cutie?
35013

Delete_Yourself
04-30-2008, 03:11 PM
Weird looking things I can see why you don't bond with that.:sanp3

I love my Oni! but I cant take her out of water and touching her often can hurt her skin. I dont know, its just different.

Delete_Yourself
04-30-2008, 03:13 PM
Hmm... any relation to this cutie?
35013


wow, ive never seen one like that b4. its eyes look strange and the shape of the face, maybe a different breed of mudpuppy/waterdog while in the process of changing.

Feeze
04-30-2008, 03:14 PM
Maybe a squirrel and mudpuppy got together. :poke :rotfl

Delete_Yourself
04-30-2008, 03:15 PM
Maybe a squirrel and mudpuppy got together. :poke :rotfl


haha. that would be an interesting combo

TinyPaws
04-30-2008, 03:36 PM
I think people don't get the whole picture because when people tell of thier flyers it is always something good or cute, or they are sick......As cute as these little ones are they do require all your attention just as a new born baby does.....there are huge sacrafices to make.....changing your routine to suit the flyer, changing your life style to accomodate these little ones....Everyone falls in love with babies of any kind, weather animal or human.....but most of these people will go thru the novelty stage and then loose interest......

You have to be willing to change your plans at a moments notice if your flyer needs you, like staying up till 6am because they won't go to bed....You have to be willing to restrict your social life.....and vacations....?

Flyers are expensive to keep, they require special diets and nuts that will end up being somewhat costly....they need special size cages, with special size bar spacing....

They aren't an animal that you can throw some nuts and seeds at and think you are feeding them a balanced diet.......Yes squirrels eat nuts and seeds, but that is NOT their staple diet.....they need a variety of fresh fruits and vegitables, which must be washed good before feeding it to them.....Babies will need to have the skin on their fruits and vegies peeled off and that includes grapes and tomatoes....All vegies and fruits...or the baby can choke....and this will need to be kept up until the baby reaches about 4 months old......They need vitamins and their calcium intake must be monitered.....

Wanting an animal because you don't want to be lonely is not a reason.....Do you want plan to let it out?? watch out, any tiny hole and he's gone....flyer proofing is not just closing doors and windows and the toilet albeit these are important.....but it is much more....do you have gaps under your counters or cabinets....what's going on behind your stove or frig.....other animals????, what will you do with them while your flyer is roaming about?.....heating vents even need to be proofed because a flyer can slip through those slots and end up in your furnace......is there a lot of traffic in and out....that would need to stop when the flyer is out......I can go on but I won't...perhaps someone will add what I have missed....

Cuteness, loneliness, bordome, novilty are NOT reasons to own a flyer, if that is the case I feel sorry for the flyer you do get......Research needs to be done BEFORE bringing one into your life and home....that requires alot of reading and research....not just for a day or two and you think, ok I got it.....because you surely don't....

I need to make note of the post who said her husband is going into the navy and she doesn't want to be lonely.....in your statement I noticed you refered to wanting a BABY flyer to love and to love you....what happens when it grows up??? What happens if it doesn't meet your expectations? isn't as loving or bonding as you antisipated......what then? does it get locked down and ignored?......Sorry if I am hurting your feelings but owning any animal especially one with special needs is a serious commitment for the life of the flyer, and I would be negligent not speaking up and giving you something to contemplate.........

TexanSquirrel
04-30-2008, 04:38 PM
weeeeeeeeird...

darrakm
04-30-2008, 09:45 PM
Thank you so much for your wonderful words of advise. My sister just found a flyer the other night & brought him to me. I have successuly raised several squirrels but i don't know a think about flyers. can you give help me with a formula recipe? I've tried the scaled milk formula, no luck. I have put pieces of apple, pecans, bread, sunflower seeds in his cage but no luck.

I called a rehab place this morning and the lady wanted me to meet her in a shopping mall and just had him over. (Something just didn't add up, so NO WAY) If I can't get him to eat today I will have to try another rehaber, but I really would like to keep him. I'm willing to make adjustments, after all raising baby gray squirrel is no picnic. (But well worth it) I have one now Mr. Wiggles how is just wonderful.

Any help would be much appreciated. HELP!!!

You need to be feeding him Esbilac puppy milk. See NFSA for proper amounts
Also, here are some pictures of healthy babies on proper diets compared to babies fedd improper diets, one being scalded cows milk:
http://www.squirrel-rehab.org/pictures/improperdiet.html